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  1. AndCounting

    [quote name=GBTS]Is it possible that Alvin is smart enough that by titling the post “A Modest Proposal” it’s meant to be entirely satirical?[/quote]The satire is purely accidental. Like whenever the Republicans decide to use “Born in the USA” as their campaign theme.

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  2. Mercurial Outfielder

    (dying laughing)
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    This really needs to be posted at BTI.

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  3. AndCounting

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Love the “Insulting Your Best Customers” tag. (dying laughing)[/quote]I’m sure it will turn into a lengthy series. (dying laughing)

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  4. AndCounting

    [quote name=Rice Cube]……HOW?!

    I would’ve gone for that price.[/quote]It was a giveaway for people who applied to the PA announcer job. They also had a discount code for other games in the series for $10. But considering the going rate on StubHub, it was kind of a ripoff.

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  5. mb21

    $0 is still too much. I’m waiting for those to go on sale. Anything more than -$7.50 is unacceptable. I plan to buy Al a beer with that $7.50.

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  6. GBTS

    [quote name=AndCounting]The satire is purely accidental. Like whenever the Republicans decide to use “Born in the USA” as their campaign theme.[/quote]Al probably confused it with Indecent Proposal.

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  7. mb21

    [quote name=bubblesdachimp]Chilis on the WAR scale MB?[/quote]Same as all the others. Any restaurant that spends the minimum amount of money in as many ways as those places do is what I’d call a replacement level restaurant.

    I haven’t been to an Outback in a few years, but they actually spend some money from what I could tell. The quality of their bar areas in the ones I’ve been in are far superior to the likes of the other ones. It’s not much above replacement level, but I’d say it is a little bit. I haven’t been in a Red Lobster in a long time, but I’m guessing they’re a notch above as well. Maybe not though.

    I’m a huge cheesecake fan and a few weekends ago we went to KC and stopped by one to pick up a cake. I’m always amazed at how nice those places are compared to places like Applebee’s and TGIF. The ones I have been in the quality of service is far superior as well.

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  8. dylanj

    since its food metaphors day at Obstructed View I have constructed our lineup and corresponded them with a equally valued restaurant

    1. Fukudome- PF Changs- overpriced but decent
    2. Castro – Chipolte – young, hip & satisfying
    3. Byrd- Subway- generic, bland
    4. Ramirez- Outback Steakhouse- remember when you used to be excited about it? Still a good place but doesnt seem to be aging well
    5. Pena- Sbarro- had a down year & looking to get their shit back in order
    6. Soriano- Cheesecake Factory- Overpriced as fuck
    7. Soto- Reba’s- The coolest restaurant on earth. Home cooked. Good atmosphere. Food I understand yet high quality. Good stuff
    8. Barney- The chinese super buffet near my house- like Barney it sucks but doesnt cost much & I see way too much time with both of them
    9. Zambrano- Dave & Busters- Fun.

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  9. AndCounting

    [quote name=mb21]When was the last time Cubs tickets were sold for so little? Anybody know?[/quote]The point I go back to is 1998. Bleacher tickets on the bargain dates that year were $6. I’m pretty sure they became premium seats after that and ticket prices around the park escalated dramatically.

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  10. AndCounting

    [quote name=dylanj]since its food metaphors day at Obstructed View I have constructed our lineup and corresponded them with a equally valued restaurant

    1. Fukudome- PF Changs- overpriced but decent
    2. Castro – Chipolte – young, hip & satisfying
    3. Byrd- Subway- generic, bland
    4. Ramirez- Outback Steakhouse- remember when you used to be excited about it? Still a good place but doesnt seem to be aging well
    5. Pena- Sbarro- had a down year & looking to get their shit back in order
    6. Soriano- Cheesecake Factory- Overpriced as fuck
    7. Soto- Reba’s- The coolest restaurant on earth. Home cooked. Good atmosphere. Food I understand yet high quality. Good stuff
    8. Barney- The chinese super buffet near my house- like Barney it sucks but doesnt cost much & I see way too much time with both of them
    9. Zambrano- Dave & Busters- Fun.[/quote](dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)
    Win.

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  11. mb21

    (dying laughing) dj, well done. Agree Cheesecake Factory is overpriced, but not as much as you think it is. They’re what I’d can a tweener. They’re part fast food (I consider TGIF, Applebee’s and other similar places to be fast food), but part higher end food. I’d be happy if they picked one and stuck with it. I could either go there and be very satisfied or go there and eat cheesecake. As long as they don’t fuck with that, I guess I don’t care.

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  12. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=dylanj]1. Fukudome- PF Changs- overpriced but decent
    2. Castro – Chipolte – young, hip & satisfying[/quote]

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  13. gaius marius

    [quote name=mb21]When was the last time Cubs tickets were sold for so little? Anybody know?[/quote]
    my guess is 1997. we’d sit bleachers for $10 or less regularly. ccd that year walked up to a scalper in the first inning and offered him $1 for his best. started a little brouhaha (dying laughing)…

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  14. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=gaius marius]my guess is 1997. we’d sit bleachers for $10 or less regularly. ccd that year walked up to a scalper in the first inning and offered him $1 for his best. started a little brouhaha (dying laughing)…[/quote]

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  15. gaius marius

    of course the park was half full most days then, rather like now. they lost, what, 13 straight out of the gate? put a little damper on demand.

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  16. Berselius

    [quote name=dylanj]Al will probably be suggesting the Cubs bring Maddux out of retirement.[/quote]
    Ferguson Jenkins can still pick up a baseball too

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  17. dylanj

    My Modest Proposal by Dylan Jones-

    I propose that the Cubs go back in time to teleport a young Fergie Jenkins & 1992 Greg Maddux back to the present to fill the rotation out.

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  18. Aisle424

    [quote name=AndCounting]The point I go back to is 1998. Bleacher tickets on the bargain dates that year were $6. I’m pretty sure they became premium seats after that and ticket prices around the park escalated dramatically.[/quote]
    On the secondary market, 2006 was pretty bad. I lived across the street from Wrigley and would wait to see how the game started on TV before walking the 5 minutes to my seat. Nobody was buying at face value or anything close. The scalpers got buried that year.

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  19. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]Same as all the others. Any restaurant that spends the minimum amount of money in as many ways as those places do is what I’d call a replacement level restaurant.

    I haven’t been to an Outback in a few years, but they actually spend some money from what I could tell. The quality of their bar areas in the ones I’ve been in are far superior to the likes of the other ones. It’s not much above replacement level, but I’d say it is a little bit. I haven’t been in a Red Lobster in a long time, but I’m guessing they’re a notch above as well. Maybe not though.

    I’m a huge cheesecake fan and a few weekends ago we went to KC and stopped by one to pick up a cake. I’m always amazed at how nice those places are compared to places like Applebee’s and TGIF. The ones I have been in the quality of service is far superior as well.[/quote]
    I’d put Outback and Red Lobster at ~1.5 and 1.0 WAR respectively. They’re decent enough for chain restaurants.

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  20. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21](dying laughing) dj, well done. Agree Cheesecake Factory is overpriced, but not as much as you think it is. They’re what I’d can a tweener. They’re part fast food (I consider TGIF, Applebee’s and other similar places to be fast food), but part higher end food. I’d be happy if they picked one and stuck with it. I could either go there and be very satisfied or go there and eat cheesecake. As long as they don’t fuck with that, I guess I don’t care.[/quote]
    I can’t pass by a cheesecake factory without laughing anymore, after seeing Donald Glover’s impression of Obama complaining about how bitches always want to go to the Cheesecake Factory, and that shit is expensive (dying laughing).

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  21. Aisle424

    [quote name=Berselius]I’d put Outback and Red Lobster at ~1.5 and 1.0 WAR respectively. They’re decent enough for chain restaurants.[/quote]
    I have a hard time judging Red Lobster. The prices are reasonable for seafood and they do it decently, but then I go down to the Gulf coast and eat at any restaurant down there and realize what GOOD seafood is like and realize Red Lobster kind of sucks by comparison. The cheddar biscuits might be worth .5 WAR by themselves though.

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  22. mb21

    [quote name=gaius marius]of course the park was half full most days then, rather like now. they lost, what, 13 straight out of the gate? put a little damper on demand.[/quote]Was that 97 or 96? I was thinking about that yesterday when the Red Sox lost again.

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  23. Berselius

    [quote name=Aisle424]I have a hard time judging Red Lobster. The prices are reasonable for seafood and they do it decently, but then I go down to the Gulf coast and eat at any restaurant down there and realize what GOOD seafood is like and realize Red Lobster kind of sucks by comparison. [/quote]
    Yeah, their seafood sucks but it’s about as good as you’re going to get for that price if you don’t live near an ocean. Just about everything is fried. I’ve never particularly thought their entrees are anything special but I think their biscuits are worth 1 WAR alone. One of my wife’s former coworkers used to work at one and got to bring the leftover biscuits home. It was pretty much the only perk of the job.

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  24. dylanj

    agree 424. Being in KS unless is lake trout or catfish our seafood sucks. I refuse to eat it unless I’m near the coast.

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  25. mb21

    The other thing about Cheesecake Factory is that it has several vegetarian items worth eating rather than the iceberg, croutons and tomato entrees at places like TGIF.

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  26. dylanj

    (dying laughing) md and my wife are in the same boat. trying to find a decent veggie meal at a chain is damn near impossible

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  27. mb21

    [quote name=Aisle424]I have a hard time judging Red Lobster. The prices are reasonable for seafood and they do it decently, but then I go down to the Gulf coast and eat at any restaurant down there and realize what GOOD seafood is like and realize Red Lobster kind of sucks by comparison. The cheddar biscuits might be worth .5 WAR by themselves though.[/quote]Compared to seafood you get anywhere on a coast, Red Lobster might be the single worst fast food joint on the planet, but I seem to remember it working well enough for me here in the Midwest.

    Biscuits ———–> Winning

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  28. mb21

    [quote name=dylanj](dying laughing) md and my wife are in the same boat. trying to find a decent veggie meal at a chain is damn near impossible[/quote]You can’t find them. Not anything a vegetarian would actually eat anyway. I don’t eat out much because even CF isn’t that great when it comes to vegetarian, but if I was going to have dinner with a group of people, I’d have no problem eating there. I don’t think it’s as overpriced as you do. The amount of money they spend setting that place up is astronomical compared to the other chains. Like we saw with the lego bar at TGIF, the cheaper places build shit, the cheaper they can sell it.

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  29. Rice Cube

    My wife is from the Monterey Bay Area where they have some of the best seafood restaurants on the planet. I nerdgasm whenever I go there because of chowder bread bowls and seafood linguine and the like. There’s a restaurant in Moss Landing (where they filmed part of “Turner and Hooch”) that serves the best seafood pasta and I swear we both cried when we thought that they were going to have to close down. Thankfully that did not happen.

    Mom-and-pop seafood >>>> Red Lobster

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  30. dylanj

    i live in a small town near wichita and we have Applebee’s the McBurgers and a few mom & pop mexican places. But we do have one restaurant that is basically a gem. High quality food at a decent price. A classy place and I have no idea how this town got it. We eat there all the freakin time

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  31. mb21

    [quote name=dylanj]the only questions about food that matters is

    Good BBQ vs Good Mexican[/quote]Good Mexican ————-> very, very hard to find in the United States
    Good BBQ ————> found anywhere in the United States

    You can find acceptable Mexican restaurants, but it’s really Mexican American food.

    This reminds me of a debate a friend and I once had that was quite meaningless, but entertaining. Good chili or good chicken noodles. I told him you can find good chili all over, but finding good chicken noodles is pretty damn hard. if I’m in a restaurant that serves both and I know both are good, I’m going with the chicken noodles because they’re much harder to find.

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  32. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=dylanj](dying laughing) md and my wife are in the same boat. trying to find a decent veggie meal at a chain is damn near impossible[/quote]
    Because there aren’t that many fagets out there.

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  33. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=dylanj]the only questions about food that matters is

    Good BBQ vs Good Mexican[/quote]
    Correct.

    [quote name=mb21]Good BBQ ————> found anywhere in the United States[/quote]
    Wrong.

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  34. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]Good Mexican ————-> very, very hard to find in the United States
    Good BBQ ————> found anywhere in the United States

    You can find acceptable Mexican restaurants, but it’s really Mexican American food.

    [/quote]
    This is true. Restaurant Mexican food is Mex-American, but the stuff my wife’s family cooks, I think, is bona fide Mexican.

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  35. Berselius

    [quote name=dylanj](dying laughing) md and my wife are in the same boat. trying to find a decent veggie meal at a chain is damn near impossible[/quote]
    One of the other American grad students in my (largely Chinese) group at WI is vegan. It was quite entertaining to see my advisor try to explain that to the server at a Chinese restaurant we were all eating at a few years ago. (dying laughing)

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  36. mb21

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]Because there aren’t that many fagets out there.[/quote]There’s a lot more than you think. I’m always surprised by the number of vegetarian eaters out there. I occasionally eat meat, but I get cravings for it less frequently all the time. The hardest part is eating a healthy diet and there aren’t many vegetarians who actually do that. Eating vegetarian can be much more dangerous to someone than eating meat if they aren’t eating a balanced meal. I don’t think a lot of people understand that. They tend to think I’ll eat vegetarian and all my health problems go away.

    Amusing, but incorrect.

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  37. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=dylanj]Whataburger could have also applied to Soto. For the money you pay both you get way more back.[/quote]
    Speaking of,

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  38. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=dylanj]and it damn sure isn’t found in Texas[/quote]
    Memphis BBQ FTW, everything else is like you bought it out of the freezer section.

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  39. mb21

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]Wrong.[/quote]Sorry, but it’s just not that hard to find good BBQ in this country. I’m not saying all places are as good as another. I’d take KC BBQ over Texas any time for what it’s worth, but I understand why some feel differently.

    It’s quite simple to BBQ meat. Combining the different flavors in a good Mexican entree is much more difficult. It’s exactly why there’s a BBQ restaurant in every town in this country, even towns with 8 people living in them. It’s also why the number of authentic Mexican restaurants is less than 50 and probably 30 of those are too expensive for the average person to dine in.

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  40. mb21

    [quote name=dylanj]i’m not interested in real mexican. I enjoy the bastardized version just fine.[/quote]I agree with that. I think I told berselius yesterday that if I’m traveling I usually look for a Mexican restaurant because I know I’ll find something I’ll be happy with. I’m just not going to leave a TGIF happy.

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  41. AndCounting

    [quote name=Bubba Biscuit]Memphis BBQ FTW, everything else is like you bought it out of the freezer section.[/quote]I spent a few days in Nashville and had BBQ for every meal but breakfast. I wasn’t disappointed by a single bite, but then my standards for food are comparable to my standards for baseball teams.

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  42. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=mb21]I agree with that. I think I told berselius yesterday that if I’m traveling I usually look for a Mexican restaurant because I know I’ll find something I’ll be happy with. I’m just not going to leave a TGIF happy.[/quote]
    This is very true, how many things can TGIF find to throw Jack Daniels on to make a new exciting entree that tastes like crap?

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  43. bubblesdachimp

    Red Lobster fucking sucks…

    Its the worst except for the biscuits.

    Red Lobster is the Koyie Hill of restaurants

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  44. mb21

    [quote name=AndCounting]I spent a few days in Nashville and had BBQ for every meal but breakfast. I wasn’t disappointed by a single bite, but then my standards for food are comparable to my standards for baseball teams.[/quote](dying laughing) I’d like to thin that all of our standards for food is higher than our standards for baseball teams. I have this horrible picture of you eating garbage now.

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  45. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=AndCounting]I spent a few days in Nashville and had BBQ for every meal but breakfast. I wasn’t disappointed by a single bite, but then my standards for food are comparable to my standards for baseball teams.[/quote]
    I have had my share up there, and from what I have had it is not that bad. Memphis BBQ with a Mississippi Sweet Brown Sugar BBQ sauce and some mighty fine cole slaw, with fried pickles and tater salad as the sides makes a mighty fine meal. Also, BBQ Nachos are damn good.

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  46. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=bubblesdachimp]Red Lobster fucking sucks…

    Its the worst except for the biscuits.

    Red Lobster is the Koyie Hill of restaurants[/quote]
    I would give 4 of Koyie’s fingers for a month’s worth of those Cheddar Bay Biscuits.

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  47. AndCounting

    [quote name=mb21](dying laughing) I’d like to thin that all of our standards for food is higher than our standards for baseball teams. I have this horrible picture of you eating garbage now.[/quote]Pretty much accurate.

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  48. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=mb21]Sorry, but it’s just not that hard to find good BBQ in this country. [/quote]
    It’s not hard to find decent BBQ. There are only 1-2 places in DFW that have it. Same in Austin. Quite a few out in the hills.

    [quote name=dylanj]KC bbq is the best. Oklahoma Joe’s all the way[/quote]
    Texas brisket. Memphis ribs. Carolina pulled pork. The end.

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  49. mb21

    [quote name=AndCounting]Pretty much accurate.[/quote]I think the picture in your head is different than the one in mine. Trust me. (dying laughing)

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  50. Mish

    I’m making a road trip through the south in June (Miami to Chicago), so if anyone knows some good spots along I-95, especially for BBQ while going through Carolina. I think our stops for the evening are in ATL and Nashville, but I would hope to stop in Memphis for their BBQ.

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  51. bubblesdachimp

    [quote name=Bubba Biscuit]I would give 4 of Koyie’s fingers for a month’s worth of those Cheddar Bay Biscuits.[/quote]
    While this is true it doesnt make it 1.0 WAR…

    Also in terms of BBQ i really like South Carolina BBQ.. Good places including Palmetto Pig, Maurices, and Melvins…

    Also for all of you today remember: BBQ is a Noun not a verb!!!

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  52. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=dylanj]the only thing from texas worth a shit is Shiner beer[/quote]
    Not even the best beer in the state ———-> fail.

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  53. AndCounting

    [quote name=mb21]I think the picture in your head is different than the one in mine. Trust me. (dying laughing)[/quote]I should have said:

    Figuratively correct.

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  54. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=Mish]I’m making a road trip through the south in June (Miami to Chicago), so if anyone knows some good spots along I-95, especially for BBQ while going through Carolina. I think our stops for the evening are in ATL and Nashville, but I would hope to stop in Memphis for their BBQ.[/quote]
    If you come to Memphis, you cannot miss One and Only BBQ. You have to try the brisket if they have not run out yet that day. http://www.oneandonlybbq.com/

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  55. Suburban kid

    [quote name=Mish]Thanks Biscuit, I definitely want to stop in Memphis to pay homage at 706 Union Avenue.[/quote]maybe even this summer.

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  56. WaLi

    [quote name=Mish]I’m making a road trip through the south in June (Miami to Chicago), so if anyone knows some good spots along I-95, especially for BBQ while going through Carolina. I think our stops for the evening are in ATL and Nashville, but I would hope to stop in Memphis for their BBQ.[/quote]
    I stopped by Jim & Nick’s BBQ on the way up from Florida in Nashville. It was pretty damn good, well priced, and good atmosphere.

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  57. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=Mish]Thanks Biscuit, I definitely want to stop in Memphis for a meal.[/quote]
    Not a problem, there is a reason Mississippi is the fattest state in the nation, we know good food and that means going to Memphis when we can.

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  58. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=dylanj]well is my favorite so fuck you JG.[/quote]
    What a horrible thing to say to another human.

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  59. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]What a horrible thing to say to another human.[/quote][quote name=dylanj]im sorry i forgot you are an actually actual human being[/quote][quote name=Jame Gumb]Apology accepted.[/quote][quote name=mb21]an actually human being.

    Al?[/quote][quote name=dylanj]yeah[/quote]Best conversation on this blog EVER!

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  60. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=Suburban Kid]Yes. The first one anyway. Kermit’s all right, but I wouldn’t make a special trip for that. (dying laughing)[/quote]
    Fair enough, but you and I don’t often agree.

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