βWeβre not exactly a low payroll team, but you got the Dodgers playing checkbook baseball. Weβre going to be the hardest working group of Midwestern farmers we can be . . . it would be great to stick it to the Dodgers.β
Put your money where your mouth is and give some of your contract back to the cardinals, Captain Red-Ass (dying laughing).
Man, I thought Jordan Montgomery was a long time Cardinals guy, I forgot that he came up with the Yankees. Only pitched 2 partials seasons with those midwestern farmers
BREAKING: A mutiny is growing inside the MLBPA. Major- and minor-league player leadership confronted Tony Clark on Monday evening, urging him to replace his second-in-command, Bruce Meyer, with a former MLBPA lawyer, Harry Marino. With @Ken_Rosenthal:https://t.co/7LA0qPUqKM
Yeah, but what’s the rub? That Boras’s clients didn’t get $300M each? Ohtani got paid. Yamamoto got paid. Nola, the Japanese CF who signed with SF, Sonny Gray, Eduardo Rodriguez, etc all got more than expected.
If the Boras 5’s contracts are the rub, it just reinforces the idea that he runs the union.
By the way, I got 170/256 on the blackout sporcle on my first try. Not too bad for me. Got almost none of the NL MIL column those, because they never have good players that are memorable. Ha.
And I picked Purdue to revenge last year’s major upset and win it all. Adam, you’re welcome.
Who are we getting rid of? Tony Clark? Boras (who I assume is not actually part of the union)? The union pretty much got screwed the moment to switched from the Type A/B to the QO system methinks, getting rid of draft picks and having teams hoard prospects probably didn’t help them any since those are now disproportionately valuable since you’d rather take a shot on a cheap kid than blow $200MM+ on an aging veteran. The whole system is stupid.
I think Tony Clark is a clown. Knowing that this formerly unknown guy was the one who did the actual negotiating work gives me even less respect for Clark.
QOs bother me about the same as the franchise tag in the NFL. It’s bad for the guys it affects and has some knock-on implicit effect on other deals but at the end of the day it’s a small percentage of players. The fact that the union has gone to bat for their younger and formerly non-members is huge imo.
Yeah I think they’ve recognized that the Ivy League FOs are hoarding young talent due to the new stuff with aging curves etc and are trying to pay them accordingly so they’re not completely exploited, at least.
Except that Tony Clark did the bulk of the negotiating during the previous contract talks and got spanked backward and forward. Bringing in Meyer, who put some teeth into the NHL players contracts seemed like a good idea both because it gave MLBPA someone more competent than a mediocre first baseman at the table, and because it showed that Clark, or his advisors, recognized his limitations.
The current contract was a win for players overall. This off-season is a huge contrast to last year, but the TV rights and the Boras strategy seems to have played an outsized roll. I think this is an over-reaction on the part of the players unless they have specific inside info. If it happened again next year, then I’d be more concerned.
Now that the minors are unionized and repped by MLBPA, if the union ever wants to get serious about holding owners to account/opening the books, they should reincarnate the Players or Federal League and take the players in the majors and minors to a new organization. The lack of anti-trust law would help the owners, but if the players unions were sufficiently united, it would work. Boras could finance a lot of it. (Ha).
Yeah, but whatβs the rub? That Borasβs clients didnβt get $300M each? Ohtani got paid. Yamamoto got paid. Nola, the Japanese CF who signed with SF, Sonny Gray, Eduardo Rodriguez, etc all got more than expected.
If the Boras 5βs contracts are the rub, it just reinforces the idea that he runs the union.
Ohtani WILL get paid eventually. If Iβm part of that union, that contract is my biggest beef. The guy who was supposed to set the FA market essentially cut the head off it.
Some player leaders inside the union are aggressively pushing for Marino, who briefly worked at MLBPA, to replace Bruce Meyer, the unionβs deputy director. If Marino and his supporters are successful, it looks increasingly likely that Meyerβs exit would also mean executive director Tony Clark would be out as well. Clark convened a video call that lasted nearly three hours on Monday night where player leaders fought over Meyerβs future and Marinoβs viability.
They have a couple years to figure out their leadership situation before they have to negotiate the next CBA but it does sound like Marino and Clark aren’t going to get along.
Except that Tony Clark did the bulk of the negotiating during the previous contract talks and got spanked backward and forward. Bringing in Meyer, who put some teeth into the NHL players contracts seemed like a good idea both because it gave MLBPA someone more competent than a mediocre first baseman at the table, and because it showed that Clark, or his advisors, recognized his limitations.
The current contract was a win for players overall. This off-season is a huge contrast to last year, but the TV rights and the Boras strategy seems to have played an outsized roll. I think this is an over-reaction on the part of the players unless they have specific inside info. If it happened again next year, then Iβd be more concerned.
Now that the minors are unionized and repped by MLBPA, if the union ever wants to get serious about holding owners to account/opening the books, they should reincarnate the Players or Federal League andtake the players in the majors and minors to a new organization. The lack of anti-trust law would help the owners, but if the players unions were sufficiently united, it would work. Boras could finance a lot of it. (Ha).
How dare you offer cogent points to rebut my unresearched and vibes-based analysis (dying laughing)
I haven’t seen a good rasslin’ move since Pedro slammed Don Zimmer to the ground (dying laughing)
Listen up, brother: The MLB and WWE have announced a partnership to create team-specific championship title belts ahead of Opening Day 2024. https://t.co/xpssm7RplU
#Reds Matt McLain had an MRI yesterday and they saw something… David Bell said it's too early to determine what it could mean for Opening Day, but the fact it's discussed is not what anyone would want
Perkins: Probably gives Cooper a better chance of making the roster.
As much as I enjoy a Wisdom homer, I unenjoy his K’s even more. So if he’s on the DL and we get to see more Dom Smith and Garrett Cooper to see if they better, it’s a net win to me.
I’ve given up on predicting that Wisdom will get DFA’d, I’ve thought it was imminent for over two years and he keeps surviving. So maybe that I’ve given up means it will finally happen (dying laughing).
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I predict that I will make a bracket, then immediately ignore it to root for underdogs
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berselius,
Big, if true
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Also basketball related (dying laughing)
https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/gradey-dick-anthony-black-jersey-swap.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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A certain World Series MVP was more popular than expected.
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My bracket, probably all wrong anyway but here’s to chaos
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Sweet
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Used a couple of Cubs “that guys”
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Miles Mikolas:
Put your money where your mouth is and give some of your contract back to the cardinals, Captain Red-Ass (dying laughing).
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TJ Friedl —-> broken wrist, literal and figurative tough break for the Reds.
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Cubs should seize the division IMO
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‘Quees to the spring so far
https://www.marqueesportsnetwork.com/10-observations-from-cubs-camp-so-far/
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Snell –> Giants π€¨
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That’s a wacky deal
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/03/giants-to-sign-blake-snell.html
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Some catharsis for allies of women as He Who Must Not Be Named remains unsigned by MLB
https://twitter.com/lindseyhillll/status/1769799182955499724?t=IS5UsZIttX7hwyytT7-K4Q&s=19
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Rice Cube,
Good, now that Snell is off the table Boras will entertain offers for his pitcher that:
a) has no QO attached, and
b) isn’t painful to watch
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Man, I thought Jordan Montgomery was a long time Cardinals guy, I forgot that he came up with the Yankees. Only pitched 2 partials seasons with those midwestern farmers
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Meh
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Glad they traded him (dying laughing)
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Bleah, stupid saves and Ks
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Fun
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Rice Cube,
Was about to post the same thing. I can think of a much more obvious person to remove in this situation, just saying.
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Rice Cube,
berselius,
Yeah, but what’s the rub? That Boras’s clients didn’t get $300M each? Ohtani got paid. Yamamoto got paid. Nola, the Japanese CF who signed with SF, Sonny Gray, Eduardo Rodriguez, etc all got more than expected.
If the Boras 5’s contracts are the rub, it just reinforces the idea that he runs the union.
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By the way, I got 170/256 on the blackout sporcle on my first try. Not too bad for me. Got almost none of the NL MIL column those, because they never have good players that are memorable. Ha.
And I picked Purdue to revenge last year’s major upset and win it all. Adam, you’re welcome.
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BVS,
berselius,
Who are we getting rid of? Tony Clark? Boras (who I assume is not actually part of the union)? The union pretty much got screwed the moment to switched from the Type A/B to the QO system methinks, getting rid of draft picks and having teams hoard prospects probably didn’t help them any since those are now disproportionately valuable since you’d rather take a shot on a cheap kid than blow $200MM+ on an aging veteran. The whole system is stupid.
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Rice Cube,
I think Tony Clark is a clown. Knowing that this formerly unknown guy was the one who did the actual negotiating work gives me even less respect for Clark.
berseliusQuote Reply
berselius,
IMO unionizing the minor leagues and the big changes to how pre-arb players are treated in the CBA were huge wins for the players.
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berselius,
QOs bother me about the same as the franchise tag in the NFL. It’s bad for the guys it affects and has some knock-on implicit effect on other deals but at the end of the day it’s a small percentage of players. The fact that the union has gone to bat for their younger and formerly non-members is huge imo.
berseliusQuote Reply
berselius,
Yeah I think they’ve recognized that the Ivy League FOs are hoarding young talent due to the new stuff with aging curves etc and are trying to pay them accordingly so they’re not completely exploited, at least.
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berselius,
Except that Tony Clark did the bulk of the negotiating during the previous contract talks and got spanked backward and forward. Bringing in Meyer, who put some teeth into the NHL players contracts seemed like a good idea both because it gave MLBPA someone more competent than a mediocre first baseman at the table, and because it showed that Clark, or his advisors, recognized his limitations.
The current contract was a win for players overall. This off-season is a huge contrast to last year, but the TV rights and the Boras strategy seems to have played an outsized roll. I think this is an over-reaction on the part of the players unless they have specific inside info. If it happened again next year, then I’d be more concerned.
Now that the minors are unionized and repped by MLBPA, if the union ever wants to get serious about holding owners to account/opening the books, they should reincarnate the Players or Federal League and take the players in the majors and minors to a new organization. The lack of anti-trust law would help the owners, but if the players unions were sufficiently united, it would work. Boras could finance a lot of it. (Ha).
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This could normally be a fun thing for the owners’ side but I feel like there’s way more to the story
https://theathletic.com/5353993/2024/03/19/scott-boras-mlbpa-tony-clark-coup/
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Ohtani WILL get paid eventually. If Iβm part of that union, that contract is my biggest beef. The guy who was supposed to set the FA market essentially cut the head off it.
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Relevant:
They have a couple years to figure out their leadership situation before they have to negotiate the next CBA but it does sound like Marino and Clark aren’t going to get along.
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andcounting,
That, ironically, was not a Boras problem (dying laughing)
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How dare you offer cogent points to rebut my unresearched and vibes-based analysis (dying laughing)
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Giants could get a serious boost to their rotation if they hold out long enough
https://twitter.com/susanslusser/status/1770218474465534419?t=vye0S6mvcHvApJ_PpA1zyg&s=19
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Wisdom –> some concerning back issue π
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BP on the Giants Snell signing
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berselius,
I hope all their yachts sink
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Probably gives Cooper a better chance of making the roster.
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Eduardo Rodriguez left his start with an injury so the Dbacks might need a starter…
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Can actually watch basketball on MAX and wow is Virginia sucking
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Bah, Greinke
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Meh
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Yikes, what a way to blow it
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I haven’t seen a good rasslin’ move since Pedro slammed Don Zimmer to the ground (dying laughing)
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The retelling of the Zim throwdown is fun
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Reds be breaking
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Taillon did some throwing
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Rice Cube,
I guess the Erds knew what they were doing when they signed too many infielders
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I guess the Prevagen that I’ve never taken worked for a change. π
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As much as I enjoy a Wisdom homer, I unenjoy his K’s even more. So if he’s on the DL and we get to see more Dom Smith and Garrett Cooper to see if they better, it’s a net win to me.
Or just keep Alcantara up instead.
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BVS,
I’ve given up on predicting that Wisdom will get DFA’d, I’ve thought it was imminent for over two years and he keeps surviving. So maybe that I’ve given up means it will finally happen (dying laughing).
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berselius,
That is some high-end vibes-based analysis right there, (dying laughing). Hope you are right though.
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Uh
They just fired Ohtani’s interpreter because he stole a bunch of money for gambling…
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Well this is weird and complicated (dying laughing)
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39768770/dodgers-shohei-ohtani-interpreter-fired-theft
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Jomboy has a video but MLBTR finally wrote up stuff for folks who wanna know what’s up
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/03/ohtanis-interpreter-fired-accused-of-theft-and-illegal-gambling.html#google_vignette
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Jomboy video
https://youtu.be/t_Ss0vPgdCA?si=r8Ot4YTLfUcswMjm
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Lorenzen –> Rangers
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/03/rangers-to-sign-michael-lorenzen.html
Conceivably that means they’re out on Montgomery
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Cleveland 20 game winner was tough on rarity but at least I did well on the White Sox.
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I forgot what run environment is like in KBO but today’s contest suggests it’s very offense-friendly
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Aside from the Ohtani gambling thing, the union is also in turmoil
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39775220/mlbpa-union-coup-tony-clark-harry-marino
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Jack McDowell was the wrong choice for rarity (dying laughing)
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Rice Cube,
Jim Kaat for me, but Cliff Lee and Tim Lincecum didnβt do me any favors.
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Here we go kids, Cubs have their rotation
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/03/cubs-to-begin-season-with-wicks-assad-in-rotation-smyly-in-bullpen.html
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Happ leads off:
Roster news:
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New roster shit –> https://www.obstructedview.net/new-cuts-new-roster-projections/
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