It's been a few years since I busted out one of these but the mindfuck that was Dale Sveum's comments today about Castro & Rizzo has enraged me to the point of typing about it so here we go.
Fuck you Dale Sveum. Fuck you and your horseshit pontifications about "accountability" and performance. If you really think that Starlin Castro & Anthony Rizzo belong in the minors then so do you. If you're a standup guy whose all about accountability then why on earth would you want some other coach to teach your two best players how to play the game the right way ™. You're the highest paid coach in the organization and you swagger around like daddy big dick so why don't you step the fuck up and handle that shit? If the bottom line is performance without any regard to context then you need to fire yourself tomorrow Dale. Because the brass tacks of the situation look like this, you're a former hitting coach whose Cub teams have hit a grand .236 under your watch. They have driven in 340 runs in 185 games you managed. Your winning percentage is .389. Mike Quade's was .477. I repeat Mike fucking Quade is miles above you based on your bare bones, head in the sand evaluation method. So the next time you feel like running your mouth to the media about accountability remember it starts with you. I look forward to your next press conference from the Des Moines media center.
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DJ I’ll buy you a drink once you wipe the blood from your mouth.
GBTSQuote Reply
(dying laughing) u mad?
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
Sullivan made it up.
Sveum’s actual quote, via Miles: “Find options,” Sveum said. “If people keep playing like that, you have to find options. Get people playing time in Triple-A to figure this stuff out.”
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/7484
He never mentioned Castro and Rizzo by name. Sullivan just made it up.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
I’m guessing he is unhappy about the errors? I am too, though. I’m still wondering if Castro isn’t better off in another position. But I’m not sure what the advanced defensive stats say.
joshQuote Reply
Sveum never mentioned Castro and Rizzo by name.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Colin Wyers on Twitter saying Sveum was specifically asked about Castro and Rizzo before that quote. I haven’t seen the video though.
GBTSQuote Reply
Sullivan is such a piece of shit.
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
Dale Sveum School of Managing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saKRZEMqdis
Aisle424Quote Reply
it is a way of life
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
@ Mercurial Outfielder:
Surely there’s more to it than that, right? We both know Sullivan is crap, but there had to be something about Castro and Rizzo.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ GBTS:
that makes sense.
dmick89Quote Reply
What’s funny about this is that the top article on cubs.com is this: Castro increases hitting streaking to NL-best 13
Something ain’t right here.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ dmick89:
According to Harry (and his timeline) there was a preceding question about Rizzo and Castro, but Sveum was more general about certain guys not performing. Bruce Miles also said that there’s no chance that Rizzo and Castro are demoted, and Sveum as far as I could tell never mentioned them by name. I’m just going off secondhand accounts though as I was watching “42” while this was being sorted out.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I would assume that there is no chance, realistically speaking. If one of them was something like 3-150 with 140 strikeouts I could see it, but it’s nowhere near there. Thoyer isn’t going to let this happen and since they’re the ones who actually send players to AAA, it ain’t happening.
dmick89Quote Reply
dmick89 wrote:
Yeah. The team has played 16 games. That means he hasn’t gotten a hit in every single one. Send his ass to AA.
GBTSQuote Reply
I’ve been wondering what DJ was thinking lately. And if he still knew how to curse.
SVBQuote Reply
Am I the only one who just can’t get over the “That’s what America was founded on” comment? (dying laughing)
roadabariQuote Reply
We suck again!
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Rice Cube wrote:
roadabariQuote Reply
roadabari wrote:
(dying laughing)
But actually, if you think about it, taxation without representation is the height of unaccountability.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
AA? Not getting a hit in every single game is worth of a demotion back to the Dominican Summer League.
dmick89Quote Reply
Have fun writing about the Iowa Cubs tomorrow, dmick (dying laughing)
MylesQuote Reply
I take it back, the whole minor leagues took a dump today
MylesQuote Reply
@ Myles:
I just started. Iowa is a wasteland of suck.
dmick89Quote Reply
Recapping the Iowa Cubs game made me do something else for awhile. (dying laughing)
dmick89Quote Reply
Kane County won, and I believe hell froze over:
BASERUNNING
SB: Martin, T (2, 2nd base off Jenkins/Velazco), Vogelbach (1, 2nd base off Baker, C/Velazco).
CS: Krist (1, 2nd base by Jenkins/Velazco), Hernandez, M (3, 2nd base by Baker, C/Velazco).
AndrewQuote Reply
@ Andrew:
Someone wasn’t paying attention. Or else the ground shook mightily as Vogey took off for second and nobody could get the ball to second because they were trying to keep their balance.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I saw on Twitter that the Vogelbach SB was without a throw.
GBTSQuote Reply
Would you guys do Baez/Soler/Vogelbach for Stanton?
GBTSQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
I was thinking of this guy…
Best video game evar.
@ GBTS:
I probably would’ve before he got hurt this season, and probably still might, but that’s a tough one…
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
Might not even be enough.
GBTSQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
Well, the Marlins would be asking for the moon for sure. I’m looking at the perspective of the Cubs. Can they survive a nuclear strike to the farm for Stanton given the injury issues (i.e. Cub’d)?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I can’t imagine what Stanton would be worth in a trade.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ dmick89:
It can be guesstimated, right? I mean, you have a guy who can conceivably put up 5+ WAR for the next 5-6 seasons and who isn’t even arb-eligible until next season. How many A/B specs is that worth?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
4 years left after this right? So 4.5 years and a total of 25 WAR. Thereabouts. Say 150 million in value and he’d be paid about 50.
Guys like Stanton don’t really work for this kind of analysis. That would be 3-4 blue chip prospects. No team would give that up.
I don’t have any idea. A shitload of talent.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ GBTS:
yes. without even looking at his shoulder x-rays
GWQuote Reply
The problem with trading for someone like Stanton or Price is that it would decimate the farm system again and they’d be right back where they were before Jed & Theo got here in the minors. The core might be a little better since they’d theoretically have Stanton, Castro, Rizzo in the middle of the lineup, but they’d still have Stewart/Valbuena at 3rd with nobody in the system to change that. They’d still only have Samardzija as an impact starter in the rotation with maybe Appel/Gray available next season.
So their core would be:
Stanton, Castro, Rizzo, Samardzija, Appel/Gray
Usable pieces:
Castillo, Barney, Jackson, Wood, Russell
Potential useful pieces within 2 years:
Rondon? Jackson?
So I’m counting 13 roster spots at least that would need to be filled via free agency and we just saw what was available coming up. I think the Cubs have to wait until Soler/Baez/Almora/Vogelbach are at least in the AA/AAA range with plenty of talent below them before they start plundering the system for trades.
I think trades will be there in the future. There will always be teams who have guys they can’t afford to keep in their circumstances. Maybe it will end up being CarGo when his contract gets expensive in 2015 if the Rockies start to suck again. I don’t know who it will be, but I’m pretty sure it will be someone.
Aisle424Quote Reply
@ Suburban kid:
Jefferson should have demoted King George to AA India.
roadabariQuote Reply
And I agree with 424. The Cubs are so far from having any one piece getting them close to competitive that raiding the farm doesn’t seem to make much sense to me.
Bruce Miles said that the Dbacks asked for Castro for Upton and the trade talks ended there. So that shows a little bit how Theo and Jed view a trade like that. I don’t know. No matter how amazing any player might be, he can only bat once in the lineup.
….for now.
roadabariQuote Reply
I missed these dj rants
BerseliusQuote Reply
@ Aisle424:
the cubs will be lucky if two of the three GBTS mentioned become regulars.
also, this
GWQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
stanton is scheduled for free agency in 2017, so 3.5 years
GWQuote Reply
@ GW:
What do you think the Marlins would want? I’d trade anybody in the farm system for him.
dmick89Quote Reply
Colin wrote a piece in response to Dale’s comments, but it’s subscriber-only: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=20316
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
New shit http://obstructedview.net/minor-leagues/jot-cubs-minor-league-recap-4-21-13.html
dmick89Quote Reply