@ WaLi:
I was thinking the same thing at first, but it was pieced together so well that I bought it. Plus, it was a fantastic scene. I could easily overlook it if I didn’t buy it just because of how good it was.
At first Jesse thought Huell had lifted the ricin off of him, and Walt talked him out of it (I think this was early on last season? Can’t remember exactly). Once he realized Huell could pick his pocket that easily, what he was putting together was that Huell DID steal the ricin. So for it to show up in his Roomba while Walt was helping him look for it meant Walt had to have been in on the plan. From there, he got the rest.
Man, this happened so much faster than I was expecting.
Great episode. I used to think that Jesse was going to kill Walt to end the show but now I’m thinking Walt kills Jesse. I had a debate with my friend and I told him that somebody must come in and stop Jesse because the house wasn’t burnt down in the future and he said it was burnt down. Anybody remember if it was?
Also, what’s this mean for Hank? I’m thinking Hank is done because now he doesn’t have a play. If the DEA investigates, they will get the confession tape and investigate and see that Hank took the money for his treatment and kept the informatin from the DEA. Hank can’t prove that he wasn’t involved and he knows that. I think Walt played that beautifully.
I’m still reeling from Walt’s false confession play. Jesus. I didn’t think he could be more despicable than he’s already been. I love that we got a flashback to early season four with Panicked Walt too.
I don’t have it on my DVR, thanks to my blind dog accidentally unplugging my tv/receiver halfway through the episode (dying laughing), but apparently you can see Huell lift the weed from Jesse when he ‘bumps into him’ as he goes through the door on the way out.
@ Berselius:
You can. I didn’t even have to rewatch it to see it. Something about Huell’s position at the door made me think it was going to happen so I was watching for it.
(dying laughing), that’s exactly what I thought of as soon as that guy showed up. I thought for a second it was a same guy, and he had somehow gotten younger in the past 15 years.
This. Though maybe he’s just fitting with the house style of packing in as many pop culture references as possible, however oblique, to show how clever they are.
I like Donna Bowman’s recaps over at AV club. She writes good recaps that avoid the house style over there of writing 4,000 word think pieces on everything. (The community pieces are the biggest offender here).
@ Berselius:
I think all of the recap authors offer something that I enjoy reading. Sepinwall’s are up first and are must reads. I like Matt Zoller Seitz’ BB recaps, Maureen Ryan and Andy Greenwald. Bowman is usually the last one I read, but that’s partly because I always forget. Haven’t read it yet today.
Can’t say enough about how well they’re executing these last few episodes. I’m finding that I need to watch each one two or three times just to absorb the richness of it all.
Loved the episode. Loved it a lot. I was a little weirded out by how fast Jesse had his Usual-Suspects moment, but in retrospect, I have no issue with its pacing or its execution. I’m also glad to see Aaron Paul have some real meat to his scenes, i.e. real dialogue. I fear for Captain Cook, but I am in utter awe of Aaron Paul, and have been since I first started watching a couple months back.
As uncle dave says, the richness and depth to these episodes is staggering. The tarantula in the desert, the shout out to Walt’s confession in S1E1….just so much to suck up and enjoy.
And as mb pointed out, that confession scene was utterly chilling. Part of me still wants to root for Walt, but then he does something so utterly indefensible that I don’t even. Betsy and Dean’s faces during the video told the whole story.
I love how fast the story is moving; all of us knew some of these plot points would have to be ironed out in thsi season (Hank vs Walt, what happened with Brock/the cigarette, etc etc), but by playing around with the pacing, the showrunners have still made these “expected events” a surprise of sorts; we are not numb to the gravity of their impact in spite knowing full well that it was to come.
OH – I completely forgot what might be my favorite moment of the episode (which speaks to how awesome the show is that I can’t even remember my favorite moment): in the restaurant when Marie tells Walt to just die/kill himself.
@ sitrick:
Forgot about him. I like him, too. He’s the one who convinced me I had to watch Orphan Black. I usually don’t like sci-fi type things, so didn’t have any interest in it at first. His constant praises and high ratings in his weekly power rankings convinced me to give it a shot. Sure as hell glad I did. Almost instantly became one of my favorites and by the end, easily sits in my top 5. Loved that first season.
He had great things to say about Bates Motel and it’s on my short list to watch, but haven’t gotten to it yet.
Best show of all time and all that stuff doesn’t really matter, but I will say this about Breaking Bad: no show I’ve seen is as good five seasons in as Breaking Bad. I haven’t seen Mad Men yet and from what I understand, it’s been just as good. I thought The Wire stumbled a bit in season 3 and definitely in season 5. To be at the back end of season 5 and love these episodes of Breaking Bad as much as I have, it impresses the hell out of me.
I think Tim Goodman wrote about this a couple weeks ago now that I think about it.
I don’t see both Walt and Jesse standing after next week’s episode. We know Walt doesn’t die so I’m predicting Jesse does next week. It just wouldn’t be like him to pull back, gather his thoughts and plan a better attack against Walt. We know the house doesn’t burn so I’m going to guess Jr. is in his bedroom eating pancakes.
I’m just not sure if there’s a way to extend Jesse’s character beyond next week that is believable. About the only way I see that happening is if they pull off the gas and slow down like they did for most of the series. I don’t see that happening.
Maybe Jesse’s murder is how Hank gets a second chance to take Walt down. Walt effectively ended Hank’s investigation with that confession. There’s enough truth in there that the rest is pretty hard to explain for Hank. It’s at least hard enough that Hank’s life is turned upside down for a long time. Hank, despite what Walt said in the video, is a moral man, but I’m not sure he’s so moral that he gives up the info he has on Walt knowing the hell in front of him if he does.
So perhaps Jesse’s murder is what gets Hanks back after Walt.
I don’t think Jesse dies next week. I think Jesse goes on a killing spree next week, taking out Walt Jr and Skyler at least. I think the subsequent investigation raises suspicions about Walt, the car wash, and his money, and this is what sends him off to Mr. Lambertville. I think the final episode is a Walt/Jesse showdown.
I do think Walt, out of anger and hubris, tells Jesse about Jane next week.
@ dmick89:
My working theory is that the machine gun is for Todd and his crew, and the ricin is for jesse.
That’s a good point about Jr.s age. He might be just old enough. Or Jesse might be angry enough about Brock that he doesn’t care, just wants to take away and hurt whatever Walt loves most after Walt has taken everything away from him. Especially if the Jane thing comes out next week, I could see Jesse totally snapping and doing something we’d think he’s incapable of.
Interesting. I’ve always been intrigued by the convergence of Walt’s treatment of Flynn and Jesse. He’s been paternal (if dysfunctionally so) towards Jesse, and is now playing Walt Jr. in the same way he has with Jesse to protect himself. Maybe this is all a result of him completely abandoning his moral compass, I dunno. But I feel like somehow that weird connection between the three will somehow resurface before the end of the series. At the very least, it’s going to make it more shocking if/when he does have to kill Jesse.
On the other hand, he’s just sold out his wife’s family, so I guess you could make the argument that abandoning the quest to protect his kids and Skyler is a logical next step.
I hope sitrick is right. I’m sure Gilligan could pull of an exciting 2nd half of this season without Jesse, but I’d definitely rather Aaron Paul be around for at least a few more episodes. I don’t see how he survives the series and given how unpredictable this season has been, it would almost make sense to kill Jesse this early. I’ve been very surprised at how quickly they’ve dealt with these major issues this year.
@ uncle dave:
Could we see it next week? Jr. stops eating breakfast long enough to stop Jesse from starting the fire and Walt comes home around the same time. I think we’ll see the three of them together at some point.
@ sitrick:
All it would take for that, AFAIK, is for him to be listed as a star at the beginning of the show. Veronica Mars is a great example. In the second season they kept the cast size about the same, but often wouldn’t have certain characters in an episode. They’re listed as being in all the episodes in which their name is on the credits, though.
Even if Jesse is killed this weekend, I don’t see BB removing him from the credits. Also, I doubt IMDB would have any info about this. It would only be what AMC has sent them and they won’t give them any clues.
Huh. I didn’t realize. Interesting. In that case, I’m assuming everyone dies next week and the remaining episodes are a backdoor pilot for Better Call Saul.
He’s listed on the VM page as being in 64 episodes or something, but he didn’t actually appear in that many. The same is true of a few others in that show. Same thing happened in Chuck, but I’m not sure what the IMDB page looks like for that show.
I just know there’s no way that AMC and/or Gilligan is going to be feeding IMDB info about that stuff. Maybe early on, but not now considering how secretive they’ve been.
@ dmick89:
Could be, though the teaser at the end of this week’s episode has Walt Jr. looking a hell of a lot more calm in demanding the truth from his dad than you’d think he would be if he caught one of his former students trying to burn down their house. Maybe I’m reading a bit too much into that, though.
I’m wondering how Todd will get into the story. I’ve been assuming that it would just be a violent standoff all along, but between the call at the beginning of the last episode and the fact that he spilled the beans about how that big-ass tank of methylamine they were towing got taken, I suspect that he’ll manage to fuck things up in a far more creative way. Maybe Hank gives up but the DEA or cops get tipped off by his crew anyway?
It has to do with how the Actor’s Guild or something has negotiated with the tv industry. Official ‘series regulars’ get paid more money and have to appear in or be credited in (and get paid) every episode of the season, even if they die. Not sure what the criteria is to make this official. It’s especially noticeable in ensemble comedies – by the time 30 Rock ended they probably had something like 15 official cast members.
Could we see it next week? Jr. stops eating breakfast long enough to stop Jesse from starting the fire and Walt comes home around the same time. I think we’ll see the three of them together at some point.
Jr. was off camera, eating breakfast and it’s so enticing that it makes Jesse forget about his rage and he sits down for some pancakes.
@ Omar Little:
I had trouble wrapping my head around Hamsterdam. There were too many aspects of that story that I just couldn’t believe. I didn’t believe that Bunny would do something like this. I didn’t believe that all the other cops would follow along and I didn’t believe the media and politicians would remains blind to it as long as they did. It’s a pretty small quibble in what was still a good season of television. Season 1 or 4 is my favorite. They’re both just so good.
@ Omar Little:
I had trouble wrapping my head around Hamsterdam. There were too many aspects of that story that I just couldn’t believe. I didn’t believe that Bunny would do something like this. I didn’t believe that all the other cops would follow along and I didn’t believe the media and politicians would remains blind to it as long as they did. It’s a pretty small quibble in what was still a good season of television. Season 1 or 4 is my favorite. They’re both just so good.
I think Hamsterdam was my favorite part of that season. I think it was an inspired plot that really pushed the show’s theme.
I think there are many police who would absolutely enforce a Hamsterdam-type policy if they felt as defeated as Bunny. And I think the show did a good job of showing how conflicted the police were about it.
I think I like 4 the best because it reminds me of how Season 4 transcended two “generations” in Baltimore. I really thought I’d be out on the show once SPOILER*******
Stringer died, but I ended up liking Marlo and his crew even more than Barksdale and his.
My main issue with Marlo was that he was basically ruthlessness personified, while the Stringer/Avon non-business stuff was what made them interesting characters. The (great) “my name is my name” scene with Marlo is pretty much the only one I remember of his.
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I want some table side guacamole
WaLiQuote Reply
Not sure i buy that Jesse would link dope lifted to ricin cigarette that quick, but shit just got real. I loved the play on Hank via the DVD too.
WaLiQuote Reply
Also in the future, the house isn’t burnt down. Do you think Walt jr comes home and Jesse stops? Does Jesse paint Heisenberg?
WaLiQuote Reply
That episode was ridiculously good.
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@ WaLi:
I was thinking the same thing at first, but it was pieced together so well that I bought it. Plus, it was a fantastic scene. I could easily overlook it if I didn’t buy it just because of how good it was.
dmick89Quote Reply
Jesus, Walt.
BerseliusQuote Reply
I was also confused by how Jesse put it together. I thought Walt didn’t use ricin for Brock? It was that plant on his patio.
JonKneeVQuote Reply
At first Jesse thought Huell had lifted the ricin off of him, and Walt talked him out of it (I think this was early on last season? Can’t remember exactly). Once he realized Huell could pick his pocket that easily, what he was putting together was that Huell DID steal the ricin. So for it to show up in his Roomba while Walt was helping him look for it meant Walt had to have been in on the plan. From there, he got the rest.
Man, this happened so much faster than I was expecting.
sitrickQuote Reply
Great episode. I used to think that Jesse was going to kill Walt to end the show but now I’m thinking Walt kills Jesse. I had a debate with my friend and I told him that somebody must come in and stop Jesse because the house wasn’t burnt down in the future and he said it was burnt down. Anybody remember if it was?
Also, what’s this mean for Hank? I’m thinking Hank is done because now he doesn’t have a play. If the DEA investigates, they will get the confession tape and investigate and see that Hank took the money for his treatment and kept the informatin from the DEA. Hank can’t prove that he wasn’t involved and he knows that. I think Walt played that beautifully.
MuckerQuote Reply
I’m still reeling from Walt’s false confession play. Jesus. I didn’t think he could be more despicable than he’s already been. I love that we got a flashback to early season four with Panicked Walt too.
BerseliusQuote Reply
I don’t have it on my DVR, thanks to my blind dog accidentally unplugging my tv/receiver halfway through the episode (dying laughing), but apparently you can see Huell lift the weed from Jesse when he ‘bumps into him’ as he goes through the door on the way out.
BerseliusQuote Reply
I hope Dean Norris gets some Emmy recognition this season. He’s been fan-fucking-tastic so far this season.
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@ Berselius:
You can. I didn’t even have to rewatch it to see it. Something about Huell’s position at the door made me think it was going to happen so I was watching for it.
dmick89Quote Reply
Just a great great great episode.
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I also just realized that the guy with the stache that’s not Todd or Todd’s uncle is Devil from Justified.
BerseliusQuote Reply
How about some pizza shooters or extreme fajitas?
Omar LittleQuote Reply
Berselius wrote:
Maybe the scene of the year so far.
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Omar Little wrote:
(dying laughing), that’s exactly what I thought of as soon as that guy showed up. I thought for a second it was a same guy, and he had somehow gotten younger in the past 15 years.
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http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/85210/breaking-bad-season-5-episode-11-recap-cigs-lies-and-videotape-in-confessions
dmick89Quote Reply
dmick89 wrote:
MAGNETS, BITCH!
BerseliusQuote Reply
Greenwald likes the most overwrought, tortured prose. He makes interesting points but his writing style makes me want to punch him.
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@ sitrick:
This. Though maybe he’s just fitting with the house style of packing in as many pop culture references as possible, however oblique, to show how clever they are.
BerseliusQuote Reply
This was my favorite recap http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3806755
dmick89Quote Reply
I like Greenwald’s writing, but I can’t listen to a word of a podcast with him.
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@ Berselius:
I feel like the house aesthetic though involves some bit of humor and self-awareness. Greenwald’s writing illustrates neither.
@ dmick89:
I loved that. Ryan is great.
sitrickQuote Reply
I laughed at gunsicle. (dying laughing)
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@ sitrick:
I like Donna Bowman’s recaps over at AV club. She writes good recaps that avoid the house style over there of writing 4,000 word think pieces on everything. (The community pieces are the biggest offender here).
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@ Berselius:
I think all of the recap authors offer something that I enjoy reading. Sepinwall’s are up first and are must reads. I like Matt Zoller Seitz’ BB recaps, Maureen Ryan and Andy Greenwald. Bowman is usually the last one I read, but that’s partly because I always forget. Haven’t read it yet today.
dmick89Quote Reply
http://www.vulture.com/m/2013/08/breaking-bad-recap-season-5-confessions.html
dmick89Quote Reply
Can’t say enough about how well they’re executing these last few episodes. I’m finding that I need to watch each one two or three times just to absorb the richness of it all.
uncle daveQuote Reply
Loved the episode. Loved it a lot. I was a little weirded out by how fast Jesse had his Usual-Suspects moment, but in retrospect, I have no issue with its pacing or its execution. I’m also glad to see Aaron Paul have some real meat to his scenes, i.e. real dialogue. I fear for Captain Cook, but I am in utter awe of Aaron Paul, and have been since I first started watching a couple months back.
As uncle dave says, the richness and depth to these episodes is staggering. The tarantula in the desert, the shout out to Walt’s confession in S1E1….just so much to suck up and enjoy.
And as mb pointed out, that confession scene was utterly chilling. Part of me still wants to root for Walt, but then he does something so utterly indefensible that I don’t even. Betsy and Dean’s faces during the video told the whole story.
I love how fast the story is moving; all of us knew some of these plot points would have to be ironed out in thsi season (Hank vs Walt, what happened with Brock/the cigarette, etc etc), but by playing around with the pacing, the showrunners have still made these “expected events” a surprise of sorts; we are not numb to the gravity of their impact in spite knowing full well that it was to come.
And finally, because Miley Cyrus is a thing, I figure you guys would enjoy this: Marie and Hank react to Miley: http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/hank-and-marie-of-breaking-bad-react-to-miley-cyrus-vma-perf
MishQuote Reply
Also Anna Gunn put out an NYT editorial about the mixed feelings regarding her character:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/opinion/i-have-a-character-issue.html?_r=2&
MishQuote Reply
OH – I completely forgot what might be my favorite moment of the episode (which speaks to how awesome the show is that I can’t even remember my favorite moment): in the restaurant when Marie tells Walt to just die/kill himself.
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@ dmick89:
I like Tim Goodman’s recaps too. Thoughtful, smart, funny, not overwrought. Like a more sarcastic/funnier sepinwall.
sitrickQuote Reply
@ sitrick:
Forgot about him. I like him, too. He’s the one who convinced me I had to watch Orphan Black. I usually don’t like sci-fi type things, so didn’t have any interest in it at first. His constant praises and high ratings in his weekly power rankings convinced me to give it a shot. Sure as hell glad I did. Almost instantly became one of my favorites and by the end, easily sits in my top 5. Loved that first season.
He had great things to say about Bates Motel and it’s on my short list to watch, but haven’t gotten to it yet.
dmick89Quote Reply
Best show of all time and all that stuff doesn’t really matter, but I will say this about Breaking Bad: no show I’ve seen is as good five seasons in as Breaking Bad. I haven’t seen Mad Men yet and from what I understand, it’s been just as good. I thought The Wire stumbled a bit in season 3 and definitely in season 5. To be at the back end of season 5 and love these episodes of Breaking Bad as much as I have, it impresses the hell out of me.
I think Tim Goodman wrote about this a couple weeks ago now that I think about it.
dmick89Quote Reply
http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/bastard-machine/breaking-bad-greatest-series-tv-606472
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I don’t see both Walt and Jesse standing after next week’s episode. We know Walt doesn’t die so I’m predicting Jesse does next week. It just wouldn’t be like him to pull back, gather his thoughts and plan a better attack against Walt. We know the house doesn’t burn so I’m going to guess Jr. is in his bedroom eating pancakes.
I’m just not sure if there’s a way to extend Jesse’s character beyond next week that is believable. About the only way I see that happening is if they pull off the gas and slow down like they did for most of the series. I don’t see that happening.
Maybe Jesse’s murder is how Hank gets a second chance to take Walt down. Walt effectively ended Hank’s investigation with that confession. There’s enough truth in there that the rest is pretty hard to explain for Hank. It’s at least hard enough that Hank’s life is turned upside down for a long time. Hank, despite what Walt said in the video, is a moral man, but I’m not sure he’s so moral that he gives up the info he has on Walt knowing the hell in front of him if he does.
So perhaps Jesse’s murder is what gets Hanks back after Walt.
dmick89Quote Reply
I don’t think Jesse dies next week. I think Jesse goes on a killing spree next week, taking out Walt Jr and Skyler at least. I think the subsequent investigation raises suspicions about Walt, the car wash, and his money, and this is what sends him off to Mr. Lambertville. I think the final episode is a Walt/Jesse showdown.
I do think Walt, out of anger and hubris, tells Jesse about Jane next week.
sitrickQuote Reply
@ sitrick:
I don’t see Jesse killing someone Jr.’s age. I could see him killing Skyler.
Does Walt really need an M60 or whatever that gun is for just Jesse?
dmick89Quote Reply
@ dmick89:
My working theory is that the machine gun is for Todd and his crew, and the ricin is for jesse.
That’s a good point about Jr.s age. He might be just old enough. Or Jesse might be angry enough about Brock that he doesn’t care, just wants to take away and hurt whatever Walt loves most after Walt has taken everything away from him. Especially if the Jane thing comes out next week, I could see Jesse totally snapping and doing something we’d think he’s incapable of.
sitrickQuote Reply
Interesting. I’ve always been intrigued by the convergence of Walt’s treatment of Flynn and Jesse. He’s been paternal (if dysfunctionally so) towards Jesse, and is now playing Walt Jr. in the same way he has with Jesse to protect himself. Maybe this is all a result of him completely abandoning his moral compass, I dunno. But I feel like somehow that weird connection between the three will somehow resurface before the end of the series. At the very least, it’s going to make it more shocking if/when he does have to kill Jesse.
On the other hand, he’s just sold out his wife’s family, so I guess you could make the argument that abandoning the quest to protect his kids and Skyler is a logical next step.
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I hope sitrick is right. I’m sure Gilligan could pull of an exciting 2nd half of this season without Jesse, but I’d definitely rather Aaron Paul be around for at least a few more episodes. I don’t see how he survives the series and given how unpredictable this season has been, it would almost make sense to kill Jesse this early. I’ve been very surprised at how quickly they’ve dealt with these major issues this year.
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@ uncle dave:
Could we see it next week? Jr. stops eating breakfast long enough to stop Jesse from starting the fire and Walt comes home around the same time. I think we’ll see the three of them together at some point.
dmick89Quote Reply
POTENTIAL SPOILERY INFOI don’t know if it’s meaningful or not, but Paul’s IMDB page shows him credited through the finale.
sitrickQuote Reply
@ sitrick:
All it would take for that, AFAIK, is for him to be listed as a star at the beginning of the show. Veronica Mars is a great example. In the second season they kept the cast size about the same, but often wouldn’t have certain characters in an episode. They’re listed as being in all the episodes in which their name is on the credits, though.
Even if Jesse is killed this weekend, I don’t see BB removing him from the credits. Also, I doubt IMDB would have any info about this. It would only be what AMC has sent them and they won’t give them any clues.
dmick89Quote Reply
Huh. I didn’t realize. Interesting. In that case, I’m assuming everyone dies next week and the remaining episodes are a backdoor pilot for Better Call Saul.
sitrickQuote Reply
@ sitrick:
I don’t know that it’s always true. Here’s an example from Veronica Mars (look for “credit only”): http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0135584/filmoseries#tt0412253
He’s listed on the VM page as being in 64 episodes or something, but he didn’t actually appear in that many. The same is true of a few others in that show. Same thing happened in Chuck, but I’m not sure what the IMDB page looks like for that show.
I just know there’s no way that AMC and/or Gilligan is going to be feeding IMDB info about that stuff. Maybe early on, but not now considering how secretive they’ve been.
dmick89Quote Reply
Breaking Bad does the same thing with Jesse Plemons (Todd): http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0687146/filmoseries#tt0903747
He’s listed as credit only for the first episode this season.
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@ dmick89:
Could be, though the teaser at the end of this week’s episode has Walt Jr. looking a hell of a lot more calm in demanding the truth from his dad than you’d think he would be if he caught one of his former students trying to burn down their house. Maybe I’m reading a bit too much into that, though.
I’m wondering how Todd will get into the story. I’ve been assuming that it would just be a violent standoff all along, but between the call at the beginning of the last episode and the fact that he spilled the beans about how that big-ass tank of methylamine they were towing got taken, I suspect that he’ll manage to fuck things up in a far more creative way. Maybe Hank gives up but the DEA or cops get tipped off by his crew anyway?
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dmick89 wrote:
Really? I thought Season 3 was the best one, followed closely by Season 4.
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@ dmick89:
It has to do with how the Actor’s Guild or something has negotiated with the tv industry. Official ‘series regulars’ get paid more money and have to appear in or be credited in (and get paid) every episode of the season, even if they die. Not sure what the criteria is to make this official. It’s especially noticeable in ensemble comedies – by the time 30 Rock ended they probably had something like 15 official cast members.
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dmick89 wrote:
Jr. was off camera, eating breakfast and it’s so enticing that it makes Jesse forget about his rage and he sits down for some pancakes.
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@ Omar Little:
I had trouble wrapping my head around Hamsterdam. There were too many aspects of that story that I just couldn’t believe. I didn’t believe that Bunny would do something like this. I didn’t believe that all the other cops would follow along and I didn’t believe the media and politicians would remains blind to it as long as they did. It’s a pretty small quibble in what was still a good season of television. Season 1 or 4 is my favorite. They’re both just so good.
dmick89Quote Reply
This needed posting again
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dmick89 wrote:
I think Hamsterdam was my favorite part of that season. I think it was an inspired plot that really pushed the show’s theme.
I think there are many police who would absolutely enforce a Hamsterdam-type policy if they felt as defeated as Bunny. And I think the show did a good job of showing how conflicted the police were about it.
Omar LittleQuote Reply
Berselius wrote:
I know the theme versions should be ranked:
2..1….3…………..5…..4
But I like them:
4..1..3..2………………………………..5
I think I like 4 the best because it reminds me of how Season 4 transcended two “generations” in Baltimore. I really thought I’d be out on the show once SPOILER*******
Stringer died, but I ended up liking Marlo and his crew even more than Barksdale and his.
Omar LittleQuote Reply
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWfK5JyD2bA
I still think this was one of the best scenes in TV history.
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@ Omar Little:
I actually liked Marlo, Chris and Snoop better than any non-Stringer person in the Barksdale crew too.
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@ dmick89:
I like Chris and Snoop, but wasn’t a big fan of Marlo. I think you’re selling Bodie short too, mb.
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@ dmick89:
@ Berselius:
I ended up liking Marlo as much as Omar after this scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2kWBB7k11Q
It was all about the thrill of the game for Omarlo. They were simple.
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@ Omar Little:
My main issue with Marlo was that he was basically ruthlessness personified, while the Stringer/Avon non-business stuff was what made them interesting characters. The (great) “my name is my name” scene with Marlo is pretty much the only one I remember of his.
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http://youtu.be/_mVq_4BA5DQ
uncle daveQuote Reply
@ Berselius:
My favorite line from that whole series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=409Pjtq7jzY
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