Well, tomorrow is the final Breaking Bad episode. I figured I’d go ahead and post this early. If you don’t want spoilers up to and including the series finale, go away.
Felina could simply be an anagram. Vince Gilligan mentioned this. It could mean Blood (Fe), Meth (Li), Tears (Na). There’s been enough blood throughout Breaking Bad and will presumably be some in the finale. Lithium isn’t usually in meth, but there are Nazis this season and the Nazi method of meth does use litium. Sodium is definitely in tears. So I don’t know.
Is Walt making using the Nazi method to make meth? I don’t think he is. It’s possible he used that method in the first few episodes before they got methylamine, but based on my limited knowledge of cooking meth, I’m fairly sure that is not part of it. But what do I know?
Could have something to do with the Marty Robbins song “El Paso” which is about a girl named Feleena. I believe there was a companion piece called “Feleena”.
If it’s not just an anagram I suspect FeLiNa is the secondary meaning. Many Breaking Bad episodes have dual meanings for the title so it would not be surprising if there is one. I’m fairly one an additional character named Felina will not be introduced.
Gilligan mentioned “woodworking” as the hint for this episode. Elliot’s office is wall to wall wood bookshelves. Walt was clearly pissed off at Elliot and Gretchen at the end of Granite State.
Also, according to the gentlemanly Uncle Jack, Lydia is “so uptight she’s probably got a wood-chipper as a coochie”. Fairly certain that’s not it.
We’ll know soon enough, but what a series this has been.
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Don’t tell me Walt is going to end up being a lumberjack
WaLiQuote Reply
“Felina” is an anagram of “finale.”
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@ Rizzo the Rat:
I mentioned that.
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@ WaLi:
(dying laughing)
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And here we go. I’ve got chills
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There’s the double meaning.
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@ dmick89:
Maybe tomorrow
A bullet may find me.
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There’s the ricin..
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Glad Jesse killed Todd. Solid ending tying up the loose ends. Great show.
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Damn. What a show.
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@ WaLi:
Yep. I was reminded of Walt strangling Krazy 8 almost with the bike lock almost immediately.
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Who mentioned the Stevia last week? It was so obvious once it was pointed out.
Could anyone have predicted what Walt would do with Gretchen and Elliot?
So Walt obviously went back to get the money. Knew he had a bag in the back of the trunk, but that could have been picked up along the way.
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Was that “El Paso” or “Feleena” playing?
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(dying laughing) @ Badger and Skinny Pete
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@ dmick89:
El Paso
@ dmick89:
Also mentioned a new way of making meth without methylamine. Is that lithium method?
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@ dmick89:
I mentioned stevia. SWMBO uses that shit all the time (dying laughing). Walt was in no risk to go back to cabin to grab all his money, they didn’t know where he lived.
I loved all the closure. The show could have been 2 episodes shorter, but these last two were nice to have.
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I kind of thought Skyler would have died (although she isn’t living happy) due to the scarface scene. Also I think that conversation with Skyler should have happened before the poisoning of Lydia. Not sure of Walts motivation to kill her otherwise.
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Many high fives when Jesse killed Todd.
I was disappointed that Walt’s showdown with Jesse at the end was relatively short, but looking back it was just right.
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WaLi wrote:
I’m fairly confident that was all a bluff by Walt to meet with the Nazis to kill them.
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dmick89 wrote:
That’s who I was guessing it was, since I was sure that Walt didn’t actually hire anyone and they were in the credits. Still laughed when we got the reveal.
I thought Walt’s plan to get the money to his family was extremely clever.
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@ Berselius:
Definitely was, but I think there is a different method out there.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/the-season-when-shows-peaked-2013-9
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Well I got the “Walt killing Jack’s crew” part right, but whiffed on everything else. (dying laughing)
Minor victory for me, but I am proud of myself for calling the final shot two years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWfK5JyD2bA
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WaLi wrote:
Yes. This ending was too clean for me. Walt gets back at Gretchen and Elliott, gets his money to his children, kills Lydia and the Nazis, saves Jesse and dies a hero. I’d have liked a more ambiguous/less obvious ending like riding off with vacuum cleaner repairman. “Felina” was all right, but kind of minor, in my opinion.
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It defintely wasn’t the best episode of the series. Ozymadias was, but to be a good episode all they had to do was not fuck it up. I’m glad Jesse lives and I’m also glad Walt helped Skyler and his kids. He did so in a way that involved money and he realized he’d been doing it all for himself. Neat? Yeah it was, but I’m alright with that. Vince said Ozymandias was the best episode and he’s right.
Like WaLi said, could have easily ended two episodes ago, but I thought last week was excellent and tonight was just a good hour of Breaking Bad. Won’t be in my top 10, but I don’t think a finale has to be.
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So Walt went to the Nazi compound with the full intention of killing Jesse too, right? I think he still wanted Jesse murdered right up until the moment he saw him in chains.
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Most of all, there are any number of ways a creator can fuck up a series finale. We’ve seen many of them and will continue to be surprised by how they do so. I have no feelings at all that Vince Gilligan and company fucked this up.
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@ GBTS:
I didn’t think of it like that. I thought he basically demanded to get him in the room so he could protect him. He had no way of knowing where Jesse was being held and if the gun goes off Walt feared he may die. That’s how I took it. Anyone else?
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I thought Walt’s anger with Todd’s uncle for “partnering up” with Jesse was genuine. For all Walt knew, Jesse wasn’t even there when he arrived. He certainly looked pissed when Badger and Skinny Pete told him that blue meth was still flowing from somewhere.
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Also it would have been beyond great if Walt said something to Jesse from their shared past that would have alerted Jesse to hit the deck right before the bullets started flying.
I thought Walt was going to tell Jesse “Run” with that same icy glare from “Full Measure” and he would know that shit was about to go down and take cover.
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@ dmick89:
I thought the same thing as GBTS – he was planning to kill Jesse too.
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@ dmick89:
I think he definitely wanted to kill Jesse if he knew he was there. Why would that have changed from before? Once he saw him beat up and in chains, he chose to save him. Walt would have probably stood and took the bullets if Jesse wasn’t there.
Also, that gun rig was pretty badass.
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Yeah I think if anything Walt was trying to bring Jesse out for the bullets, then when he saw him in chains he went to plan B. He had no reason to think anything else than Jesse was willingly a business partner with the guys who murdered Hank.
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@ GBTS:
Good point. I’ve got to watch it again.
Loved the payoff of the gun.
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Basically the last time he saw Jesse, Todd said he would torture him and then kill him. So because he was still alive Walt had to assume that Jesse traded his life in exchange for Walt’s blue recipe, which would only deepen Walt’s sense of betrayal and feelings that Jesse is a coward.
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@ Rizzo the Rat:
I read this from Sepinwall last night too, and I was like…
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If there’s one thing we’ve seen from Walt, it’s that he can execute a plan to about 96 percent perfection (including meth). I’d say the finale was right in line with everything else in the series:
Walt convinces the Fagets to give his money to his son: Check. Great scene. Loved it.
He says a proper goodbye to his family (and gets to see his son one last time) and does his best to ensure they can move on: Check.
Jack’s crew and Lydia are dead…check.
In that sense, yes, everything’s nice and neat. However, Walt still left a trail of broken lives in his wake. Yes, the Whites will likely get a nice chunk of change from the Fagets, but will Skyler and Flynn ever get over this? The baby’s the only one with a chance. Jesse? {clay davis}Sheeeeeeiiiiiiittttt{/clay davis}. He’s been a slave meth cook for the last few months. He watched Andrea die because he tried to escape. He killed Gale. Anything else? The ending would have been more humane if Jesse had died.
As for Walt, the finale was a reckoning for him. I know it’s not a popular opinion, but I can still sympathize with Walt. I went back and watched the pilot last night, and I had forgotten how beat down he was. Hank constantly busted his balls. His birthday present from Skyler was a handjob and complaining about him being late to his party because he worked at the carwash. Speaking of the carwash, he was shining tires while his dickhead students mocked him. He put himself into a corner for so long…for his family. He started cooking meth for his family. It’s my opinion that Walt became so out of control being Heisenberg because he repressed that part of himself for so long. The dam burst.
To be clear, I’m not trying to justify what he did. But I do understand how something like that can happen to the best of people. And because of that, I really enjoyed the final two episodes. As I said, this was Walt’s reckoning. I think whether you were happy with the finale (versus simply content) hinges on how much you sympathize with Walt’s character.
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@ Omar Little:
I had the same reaction as you did to that Sepinwall recap. And also FWIW I stopped sympathizing with Walt long ago but was still very happy with the finale.
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That said I did not expect Walt’s gun plan to kill all the Nazis, and I’d be kind of surprised if Walt thought it would work so well either.
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Fully agree Ryno. Great reasoning. I also am kinda pissed off with the Sepinwall review. I’m not a fan of cliffhangers. I like to know what happened instead of leaving it open to interpretation. If I ever watched Sopranos, I’m sure the finale would make me go mad.
Sepinwall has been making the point over the last year that the great Heisenberg gets things done when he has time to plan it out and he makes mistakes when he has to improvise. Then he contradicts himself with this review.
He had plenty of time to plan this out — a year, basically. Even then, there was still a hiccup when he got his car keys taken. If not for Uncle Jack’s pride, Walt would be dead and Jesse would still be a slave meth cook.
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@ Berselius:
Agreed. It’s a little far fetched for Walt to know that the building he needed to shoot would be on the passenger side of the car. I thought he was going to meet the Nazis in a location where the gun was already set up and all he had to do was bring them to the spot.
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@ Omar Little:
I liked it. Not as great as some of the others, but in a series full of awesome hours, that’s not surprising. I also don’t get the arguments about no plan Walt sets in motion working as he wants. Some did. Most did not, but the Walt right now is a very different person than the one who left ABQ. He’s not clouded by power or anything else. He basically has a singular mission.
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@ JonKneeV2:
Sepinwall treats Heisenberg and Walt as two separate people and he did so in his review last night. All of the awful acts were committed by Heisenberg and vice versa. That’s not really how it is.
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@ Omar Little:
Yep. Skyler and the kids lives are ruined. Marie’s life is ruined. Jesse’s life is ruined. Countless have died. Walt still got shot by the gun he set up to kill the Nazis. About the only lives who are bettered because of this are the skateboarders.
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One other minor complaint I had was that I thought Lydia’s death was kind of pointless. Yes, she could implicate/go after Skyler (I can’t remember how much she knows) but I don’t really know what reason she would have for it, let alone who she would get to do it with the Nazis out of the picture.
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@ Omar Little:
I’m very happy with the finale, but like berselius, I didn’t much sympathize with Walt at this point. He made so many awful decisions that led to so much devastation. Even when he was aware of if, he continued. He admitted last night it was for himself and I thought that was fantastic. Sure, I sympathize with how things went for Walt before the show began, but everything he did over the last 6 years was for the most part selfish and not about his family.
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@ Berselius:
Did Walt administer the ricin to her before he met with Skyler? She was the one who hired the Nazis to make Walt’s meth and we know what he thinks about his own meth.
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dmick89 wrote:
This is what makes the finale for Walt non-sympathizers. Seeing him seemingly start yet another of his sanctimonious rationalizing speeches and then admitting that it was selfishness that kept him going was fantastic, and completely unexpected. It may have been his family to begin with but it stopped being about them a long time ago.
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Berselius wrote:
Or maybe not. (dying laughing)
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Nit picking, but it didn’t really kill them all. I did wonder about that organization, though. They seem to have a lot of power for having so few members (I guess some are still in prison). Anyway, I think it’s safe to assume that a gun that size swiveling around would cause enough chaos for Walt’s plan. What did they have, like 10 people there?
I do agree, though, that Walt shouldn’t have expected that plan to work so well. That’s why I thought the ricin would come into play for Jack.
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@ JonKneeV2:
Good point. Plus, he didn’t need the plan to go perfectly. Just well enough for Jack and Todd to die, basically.
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Berselius wrote:
He poisoned her after Skyler told him that three masked men threatened her and the baby if she ever mentioned Lydia. Lydia has always been very nervous about being captured…hell, wasn’t it Lydia’s idea initially to have Mike’s men offed in prison?
I don’t know if that’s Walt’s reason, but it would be easy to point the finger at her being behind the threats to his family.
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dmick89 wrote:
No, which is my one minor quip. I think that scene with Skyler should have been before the meeting with Lydia so that he had a reason to go after Lydia.
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Omar Little wrote:
I could have sworn the scene with Lydia and the stevia happened before the meeting with Skyler.
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@ WaLi:
Agreed, though like Ryno says, it wouldn’t have been hard to figure out she was behind the meth and Walt was going to get rid of the people using his meth. Learning Lydia had done that just made Walt feel more confident in that decision.
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@ Omar Little:
I thought it was before he met with Skyler.
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dmick89 wrote:
(dying laughing) Pretty much. It’s a really heart-breaking story on several levels.
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@ WaLi:
I thought it did too. Certainly Walt grabbing the ricin was before that meeting too, and I feel pretty confident that was his plan all along.
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dmick89 wrote:
Badger and Skinny Pete were the big winners in all this (dying laughing).
Also, Saul managing a IHOP in Omaha should probably be in this list too.
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@ Berselius:
That was clearly the case all along, imo. Him admitting as much last night was a major part of his reckoning.
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@ Berselius:
the blue meth is gone now so they have to go back to the crap stuff. It’s not all good. (dying laughing)
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@ Berselius:
Cinnabon. Even funnier.
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@ dmick89:
(dying laughing). At least it’s not a TGI Friday’s.
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Had to go back and check. The timeline is:
Fagets house
Breakfast
Gun
Ricin
Lydia
Gun setup
Skyler
So yeah, I guess he killed Lydia simply for being a cunt.
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Omar Little wrote:
I’m glad that they managed to work breakfast into the BB finale. It wouldn’t be Breaking Bad without some bacon and eggs.
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Yeah for those thinking that it was a happy ending, it definitely wasn’t. It was neat, but Walt didn’t go out happy. As mentioned here before, his speech to Skyler was great and unexpected. I was going to be mad if he said he did it for family, and boom, he tells the truth finally.
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dmick89 wrote:
Exactly. I’d be interested to know how much of him coming back was due to the meth imposter v. the idea of using the Fagets to get Flynn the money.
Btw, the Fagets trust story/scene was brilliant.
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WaLi wrote:
It was neat in the sense that they concluded the story. I guess I take issue with “neat” being used in a pejorative sense (as I’ve seen), because I don’t know that the story could have been concluded any more perfectly.
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I urge you all to go back and watch the pilot today. There’s a reason they put the “get a little excitement in your life” scene in the finale, I think. Now that we know who Walt really is… It makes the beginning much more pitiful.
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How did the cops find out about Jack’s compound to show up at the end? I missed that one.
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@ Berselius:
I would assume someone reported gunfire. That’s a loud ass gun.
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@ Berselius:
I’m guessing someone within like a 10 mile radius called the police after hearing 60 uninterrupted seconds of automatic machine gun fire. (dying laughing)
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@ GBTS:
I figured that the compound is in the middle of fucking nowhere. If this show has established anything, it’s that NM is a big empty place.
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Berselius wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkA7xQb6uPk
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@ Berselius:
It probably was, but that gun can be heard a long way away. They probably heard it at the police station. Saul may have ducked behind the counter in Omaha fearing that Walt had come for him. I doubt that this was the first time the police had been to visit a Nazi compound.
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WaLi wrote:
(dying laughing), no kidding.
/ApplyingForJobInNMAnyway
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@ dmick89:
The cops didn’t show up to the big fucking gunfight at To’hajilee, either, that had to have made some noise. That old Navajo guy that sold his truck to Walt didn’t call anyone.
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@ WaLi:
This. It was neat, but there’s nothing wrong with neat. Even by “neat” standards, this was fairly messy (Walt got shot by his own contraption, which is so Breaking Bad).
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I also think people forget how smoothly things went early in season 5A.
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dmick89 wrote:
I think Walt got hit by shrapnel or something. That bullet would have probably blown a hole through him if it hit the side of him that was facing the gun.
/nitpick
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@ WaLi:
You’re probably right, but he was killed by the damned thing. (dying laughing)
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I suppose I should have said **SPOILER ALERT**
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@ Omar Little:
If anyone is reading this thread and not wanting spoilers, they’re doing it wrong.
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dmick89 wrote:
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lest we forget
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Just for fun, I decided to see what NSBB thought about the finale. I forgot how fucking moronic they are. Only took three posts to remember.
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I certainly don’t think this was a happy ending. But watching Walt’s plans work to perfection felt predictable and obvious to me. The people whom the show was building sympathy towards got rewarded (somewhat), the people the show was building antipathy towards got punished. It felt a little mechanical, and I didn’t connect to it emotionally as I do the series’ best episodes (I agree that the scene with the Schwartzes was great, though).
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Just to clarify, I enjoyed the episode; it just didn’t get under my skin (in a good way) the way many other episodes have.
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btw,
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This may not be popular her or among Breaking Bad fans in general, but as I’ve thought about this finale and this season, I’ve realized that Jack and Co. were the best villains the show ever had. Gus was better written because he was a bigger part of the story. Esposito was the superior actor, but Gus wasn’t crime. Gus wasn’t the type of people involved in the meth business. Gus was a great character and undoubtedly better and more interesting than the Aryans, but the Aryan Brotherhood is what crime and the meth business looks like. The show needed them.
Also, how can anyone not have already mentioned Todd’s ring tone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVBBxptpSY8
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A comment on Greenwald’s recap
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Vince actually wanted to have Skyler commit suicide, but his writers talked him out of it (which also proves his point about not being an auteur*).
*I’m not sure what Vince’s rejection of auteur theory has to do with his being a showman. He meant that creating a show is a collaborative process, not the product of a single genius.
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It’s weird; the more I think about the episode, the more I like it in retrospect, despite the fact that it didn’t provide the emotional wallop I was hoping for at the time. I think it gives the viewer a lot to think about afterwards. Such as how Walt had to swallow is pride and allow the Schwartzes to get credit for providing for Flynn’s future. He admitted to Skyler that his motivations were selfish all along, and his children will grow up despising him. He didn’t so much “win” as do an incomplete job of cleaning up his own mess.
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@ Rizzo the Rat:
He told Gretchen and Elliot they could do the right thing. He didn’t say they could make up for it. Walt did the right thing, but there was nothing he could do to make up for it. It’s a far from happy ending, which would have been completely wrong.
There were issues with the episode, but there are issues with most hours of tv. I though it was a good finale. Not great, but it didn’t try to be and more than anything, it’s greatness in the hours before it made it unnecessary. It tried to resolve some loose strings and provide closure. It succeeded.
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Vince asked for more than the 8-8 season 5 schedule AMC gave him. It’s possible that with more time, he could have made Walt’s transformation into vigilante mode more convincing. As it is, we don’t really see the time pass in NH and he seems to get desperate almost instantly. I’d rather have seen him spend at least a whole episode living alone in the woods.
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@ dmick89:
Yeah, I think what impressed me the most about this finale is the massive head fake that they sold us all over the course of this season and how well it worked. Walt will pay for his sins, the future is written, we know how it will end and we’ll still enjoy it, etc. When the dust settled, not a whole lot of that was completely obvious. While everyone wound up losing as a result of the story, he still allowed some closure to many of those involved and punished some folks we didn’t like. It was more than I expected, and yet still worked quite well.
The wave crested a couple of episodes ago, but even if it was just a coda this was still some seriously entertaining television.
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I think the critics usually do a pretty good job, but I think they really missed it with this episode. The name of this episode was always important and was going to have more importance than any other episode. I’m guessing it was only Felina because they realized they could use that and it would be an anagram. They probably initially intended to use Feleena, but once they realized the other spelling was an anagram for finale, they switched it. They guy I quoted in #92 really nailed it.
Was it as good as To’hajiilee? Or the one before that ended mid-bullet (can’t think of the title)? No and there were some other episodes in the series that were better. It was still good and really, what are the odds that the finale of any show with 62 episodes is going to be the best in the series? I didn’t expect the best episode. All I wanted was a good episode and a good ending. I didn’t care what that ending was other than Walt dying. That had to happen. As Greenwald said back in August, Breaking Bad was the story of Walt’s death.
I’d have been content with any ending that didn’t have Walt becoming a fucking lumberjack.
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dmick89 wrote:
I just read some of these reviews yesterday and you are right. They all have the same exact complaints too saying it’s too “neat” (but in the pejorative sense like Ryno mentioned). It was neat in the sense that Walt’s story is complete which is great, I’m glad there was closure, but his family still has a bunch of unknowns.
I think it was a solid episode and one that will hold up when rewatching the series. It wasn’t a happy ending, Walt didn’t “win” as many are saying. The only thing that I could have seen going different as I mentioned above was Skyler dying, and it looks like Gilligan thought of that too via suicide (which I’m glad didn’t happen, although her life seems pretty freaking shitty right now).
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I wonder how the finale reactions would be different if we hadn’t seen the flashforwards at the beginning of this quasiseason and the last quasiseason.
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WaLi wrote:
Yeah, there’s closure, but the lives of the survivors were all thoroughly ruined. You can say that Jesse is ‘free’ but to me, the scene where he’s driving away from the compound was pretty loaded. It reminded me a bit of the last scene in “The Graduate,” where you couldn’t possibly come to the conclusion that it was a happy ending if you pay the slightest bit of attention to what’s going on. He’s broke, on the lam, and crazy/fucked up for life. That’s closure only in the most minimal way of looking at it.
SO, WHO’S PUMPED TO SEE “THE NEED FOR SPEED?”
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@ uncle dave: Yeah, I'd say Jesse is fucked. I don't think he got caught by the police that showed up shortly after his exit, but it's possible. As you said, he's broke. He's a drug addict and has no support group at all. His parents aren't in his life and Andrea is dead. He's uneducated so it's not like he's going to be landing a decent job anytime soon and we already saw how that went anyway. After what he's gone through he's more likely to use and would probably have used and ended up killing himself anyway. I still believe that Walt, by letting Jane die, saved Jesse's life. A duffel bag full of money isn't quite the same as a barrel full, but he's have spent all that money on heroin and died within weeks. Basically, Jesse is fucked. Skyler? I'm not entirely convinced Hank and Gomey's location is a get out of jail free card. Reduced sentence? Sure, but someone has to pay for the hell that Walt caused. Oh yeah, Jesse is going to have the DEA watch that confession tape and he'll be wanted for the rest of his life. Even if Skyler gets off without any jail time, she's never going to land a decent job either. She was and always will be Heisenberg's wife. A wife who helped her husband launder barrels full of money. Holly grows up without a father and lives in a shitty place (most likely her entire life). Jr. has a disability and although he seems to have a good head on his shoulder, life was already going to be tough enough. Ain't no one calling Saul now that he can't practice law. He's also wanted by the DEA and in Omaha. I've been to Omaha. There isn't shit to do there. It's fucking Omaha. Marie's life is fucked. After the Nazis broke into her house (was she in her house during that conversation or elsewhere?) she'll never be safe again. She's got a garage full of minerals and Schraderbrau. At least she'll be able to kick back and have a drink. She's going to need it. Walt died with his true love and everyone else is fucked. That seems like it was the story people mostly wanted. And they got it. They just didn't get it in the way they hoped.
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dmick89 wrote:
IIRC Todd and Co. broke into Marie’s to steal it after learning that Jesse implicated Todd over Drew Sharp.
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@ Berselius:
Yeah and the police just showed up where it was. They’ll dig through everything.
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The Nazis don’t strike me as the kind of people who get rid of evidence. Especially not when they’re housing and torturing a slave and meth lab. Not to mention the numerous guns bound to be there and probably even some explosives, warrants and who knows what else? Maybe they got rid of the confession, but considering all the other evidence on hand, I doubt it. It probably went into a pile of Hustler and Penthouse magazines and was forgotten about.
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@ dmick89:
Definitely a Hustler crowd there.
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dmick89 wrote:
I just assumed everyone on this site gets Marx Brothers references, so I didn’t see the need to bring it up. But yes, that is the most memorable scene from their otherwise forgettable feature “At the Circus.”
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In case anyone is interested, Norm MacDonald on Twitter is pushing pretty hard a (completely unfounded) theory that Walt died in the cabin and Felina was all a fantasy. For which there is literally no evidence other than WHOA WOULDNT THAT BE COOOOOOOL
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@ dmick89:
Good point. I wonder if Jesse implicated Skylar at all in that video too.
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People are saying things like “OMG it must have been a dream, a car that old doesn’t have a remote trunk!!”
The man stole like 1000 gallons of liquid off a freight train using a hose in 3 minutes, but a trunk fob is where these people draw the line on reality. (dying laughing)
GBTSQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
DUUUDE WHAT IF THE ENTIRE SHOW WAS THE DREAM OF THE DOG WE SAW AT THE END OF OZYMANDIAS
BerseliusQuote Reply
Are people really saying this shit? (dying laughing)
dmick89Quote Reply
@ GBTS:
Yeah, exactly.
@ Berselius:
(dying laughing)
dmick89Quote Reply
When people talk about the show being unrealistic, I always go back to Walt’s wife being named “Skyler.” Um, no: http://www.babynamewizard.com/voyager#prefix=skyler&ms=true&sw=f&exact=false
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
I suppose it’s possible that Walt’s dream was so detailed that it involved him dreaming about Jesse dreaming about being a woodworker. You know, some Inception type shit. Totally plausible theory.
GBTSQuote Reply
No one will ever convince me that Gilligan’s woodworking reference on Talking Bad the week before the finale was about anything other than Lydia’s coochie.
dmick89Quote Reply
I have no idea why I ever read blog comments. This is on one of Maureen Ryan’s posts.
I don’t think the ending could have been more clear. Walt died. For those who weren’t convinced, and why on earth wouldn’t you be, Gilligan even confirmed it. He died. It was plain as day.
dmick89Quote Reply
Even going by the lyrics it looks like he dies “just one thing before I go”. This guy is an idiot. And why would he want Walt alive??
WaLiQuote Reply
@ WaLi:
He’s one of the many who though Walt really didn’t do anything wrong. Jesse was a piece of shit who got him involved to them. Skyler was a cunt and so on. Walt was an angel!
dmick89Quote Reply
Supposedly published in ABQ journal.
BerseliusQuote Reply
Oddly enough, ricin poisoning is in the news today: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/hazmat-crews-called-suicide-ricin-attempt-20458054
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
Apparently this was started by the normally intelligent Emily Nussbaum. Crazy.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ Berselius:
That would be so awesome if it was.
dmick89Quote Reply