Multiple reports claim that the Cubs are close to sending Kosuke Fukudome to the Cleveland Indians for two prospects (according to Cleveland Plain Dealer’s Paul Hoynes, it’s an upper level and lower level prospect, one a pitcher and another a position player. The Cubs well send cash to cover most if not all of Fukudome’s salary.
Supposedly Fukudome has waived his NTC for the deal. Good for him – why would he want to stick around? He still gets paid, and he gets another shot at the playoffs.
I’m glad the Cubs sent money along, because they need prospects more than they need money right now.
More details as the deal develops.
Update 1:
The Indians are paying $775,00 of Fukudome’s remaining salary, so the Cubs are sending around $4m.
Apparently “upper level” meant AAA, not upper level in prospect quality.
Update 2:
The Hobbitton Press says that the prospects are AAA RH RP Carlton Smith and A OF Abner Abreu. Neither of them are ranked in BA’s top 30 Indians prospects, so it’s not much. I wouldn’t be surprised if they made it into the Cubs pathetic rankings though (dying laughing), at least for the next 3 weeks before the draft signings are announced and they get knocked out again.
h/t Mish
Comments
.
MishQuote Reply
Yeah, but there’s a shitload of Californians.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish].[/quote]
So which is the good one?
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/11/30/1846742/cleveland-indians-top-20-prospects-for-2011
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Is that a rumor, or do you have a source Mish?
BerseliusQuote Reply
(dying laughing)
BerseliusQuote Reply
none of those guys are on any kind of list i can find
maybe by high prospect they just meant high in the minors.
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/11/30/1846742/cleveland-indians-top-20-prospects-for-2011[/quote]
(dying laughing), neither guy is on the list.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]So which is the good one?[/quote]Neither of them is ranked in the top 10 by BA or top 30 by Sickels. So the answer to your question is neither, which is what we expected to get in return for Fukudome.
mb22Quote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Is that a rumor, or do you have a source Mish?[/quote]SUllivan
MishQuote Reply
At least Abreu is only 21.
GBTSQuote Reply
I’m more surprised anyone said the Cubs would get a good prospect in return. They had to send about $2 million just to get a class of water. $3 million for a glass of ice water.
mb22Quote Reply
glass
mb22Quote Reply
Cleveland is paying $775,000, so the Cubs are sending $4m or so
BerseliusQuote Reply
http://obstructedview.net/chicago-cubs/articles/trade-value-kosuke-fukudome.html
The updated ZiPS is now .333.
mb22Quote Reply
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=smith-007car
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=abreu-001abn
mb22Quote Reply
Post updated
BerseliusQuote Reply
I[quote name=Berselius]Post updated[/quote]I could easily see Abreu being a top 10 Cubs prospect entering next season. I’d actually be surprised if he isn’t. He’s not that good, though he has shown flashes, but the Cubs system sucks ass. Considering his age, you may even be able to justify ranking him in the top 5.
mb22Quote Reply
What’s up with the mb22 name? Are you escaping from the amount of discreditedness of mb21?
BerseliusQuote Reply
they might as well released the guy. these two prospects arent shit
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]they might as well released the guy. these two prospects arent shit[/quote]
Maybe Abreu was drafted in the 13th round. You Never Know.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]they might as well released the guy. these two prospects arent shit[/quote]
These guys are shitty enough that I wish they were sending less cash (dying laughing).
BerseliusQuote Reply
if we could have got 200k more i would have just done that. Hell get 25,000 and use that to sign a skinny kid from korea and hope. Neither one of these guys are good at sports
dylanjQuote Reply
Abreu has a sub .300 OBP at single-A, not good even for a 21 year old…
NateSpringfieldQuote Reply
Two guys that are bad at baseball in exchange for the only guy on the team that can take a walk.
We don’t often get fucked, but when we do, it lasts for over a hundred years.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Two guys that are bad at baseball in exchange for the only guy on the team that can take a walk.
We don’t often get fucked, but when we do, it lasts for over a hundred years.[/quote]
Better get the Costco-sized tub of Preparation H.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Better get the Costco-sized tub of Preparation H.[/quote]I wouldn’t even mind it if the team seemed like it had any direction or reason for doing anything.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]I wouldn’t even mind it if the team seemed like it had any direction or reason for doing anything.[/quote]
I’m glad you have standards prior to receiving a royal rodgering.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I think it’s a good fit for Fukudome. Plus, he can hang out with those two little field crew Japanese guys from Major League that always say “They are still shitty!!”.
MuckerQuote Reply
Hooray.
AndCountingQuote Reply
[quote name=AndCounting]Hooray.
[/quote]
That’s not unusual.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]What’s up with the mb22 name? Are you escaping from the amount of discreditedness of mb21?[/quote]too lazy to login. (dying laughing)
mb22Quote Reply
Nate Clements ——————> released
SF ——————————————————> $7 million more under cap
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]they might as well released the guy. these two prospects arent shit[/quote]What were you expecting to get for Fukudome?
Name one team that just releases a guy rather than trades him even if they get shit in return? How many trades have the Cubs made in which they sent guys who sucked? If some team is willing to trade for a player, you trade him. If no team wants to trade for him then you release him. Doesn’t matter if you get back Ryan Theriot, Theriot’s little brother, his mom, dad, and 7 kittens.
mb22Quote Reply
The interesting decisions will be Soriano and Zambrano. I think the Cubs should keep each since they’re trying to contend and they can’t possibly get back enough to warrant trading them, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Cubs release one or both of them.
mb22Quote Reply
There is no way they were getting 7 kittens for Fukudome. Five at best.
Aisle424Quote Reply
nothing. so just get some money back. if we had just done it for cash i would imagine would could have got more than the 775k back. Use that to give Vogelbach a personal trainer or whatever but these two guys are worthless
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=mb22]The interesting decisions will be Soriano and Zambrano. I think the Cubs should keep each since they’re trying to contend and they can’t possibly get back enough to warrant trading them, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Cubs release one or both of them.[/quote]Z actually has value though. they don’t have anyone in the system that can provide better WAR in the rotation next year. The same isn’t true for Soriano. In all liklihood Jackson or Colvin will match or better the value Soriano is providing. At the very least Z could be the 4/5th starter next year if they can somehow obtain a better starter.
JManQuote Reply
[quote name=JMan]Z actually has value though. they don’t have anyone in the system that can provide better WAR in the rotation next year. The same isn’t true for Soriano. In all liklihood Jackson or Colvin will match or better the value Soriano is providing. At the very least Z could be the 4/5th starter next year if they can somehow obtain a better starter.[/quote]
I agree with this. I also don’t really see the Cubs releasing Soriano until after 2012, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did happen after this season.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Somebody get Soriano some steroids.
MuckerQuote Reply
Maybe he should take a vacation in whatever random Caribbean island Bartolo Colon got his stem cells from.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Have a vested interest in the success of the A’s, I do.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]nothing. so just get some money back. if we had just done it for cash i would imagine would could have got more than the 775k back. Use that to give Vogelbach a personal trainer or whatever but these two guys are worthless[/quote]The Cubs entire minor league system is worthless.
mb22Quote Reply
[quote name=JMan]Z actually has value though. they don’t have anyone in the system that can provide better WAR in the rotation next year. The same isn’t true for Soriano. In all liklihood Jackson or Colvin will match or better the value Soriano is providing. At the very least Z could be the 4/5th starter next year if they can somehow obtain a better starter.[/quote]Agreed on both players. Soriano issue is that he has little to no value at all while Z’s issue is that despite his value, teams aren’t going to take him because he’s nuts.
Someone did some research a couple years ago showing that 2 WAR is what teams are willing to give up for chemistry and Zambrano happens to be worth about 2 WAR. So the Cubs would have to pay his entire contract, which makes no sense unless they believe his absence would improve the team more than that.
mb22Quote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]nothing. so just get some money back. if we had just done it for cash i would imagine would could have got more than the 775k back. Use that to give Vogelbach a personal trainer or whatever but these two guys are worthless[/quote]If we’re talking next year’s payroll then I’d agree, but I’d rather get the two players in return than save a few bucks this season. I agree they’re not very good, but that’s what makes them perfect for this organization.
mb22Quote Reply
Bruce Miles says that Abreu is the key in the deal.
If we’re lucky, he could be as good as Tyler Colvin.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=mb22]Agreed on both players. Soriano issue is that he has little to no value at all while Z’s issue is that despite his value, teams aren’t going to take him because he’s nuts.
Someone did some research a couple years ago showing that 2 WAR is what teams are willing to give up for chemistry and Zambrano happens to be worth about 2 WAR. So the Cubs would have to pay his entire contract, which makes no sense unless they believe his absence would improve the team more than that.[/quote]supposedly the Cubs are willing to eat a big portion of his remaining salary. Not sure what the number is but if it’s close to 50% I have to believe a team would go for the trade. The problem might be that Hendry is asking for too much in terms of prospect return. Either way the writing is on the wall and I think both Z and Soriano are gone before Sept 1st or they are gone in the off-season.
JManQuote Reply
I’m guessing the Fukudome trade means we’ll see more Blake DeWitt, OF (dying laughing)
BerseliusQuote Reply
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Strange-turn-Jay-8217-s-errant-throw-hits-on-d?urn=mlb-wp14088
I saw this play last night and thought it was a dead ball as the on-deck guy, while directing traffic, isn’t technically part of the play. But the trajectory of the ball was going to get past both the catcher and the pitcher backing up the plate anyway. Guess it was a judgment call for the ump that it wasn’t deliberate attempt to obstruct a thrown ball, but the only hangup for me is that the guy who knocked the ball awry wasn’t even a baserunner or batter…
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Bruce Miles says that Abreu is the key in the deal.
If we’re lucky, he could be as good as Tyler Colvin.[/quote]He showed some power a couple years ago, but his on-base skills leave a lot to be desired. Another reason why he fits in so well with this organization.
mb22Quote Reply
[quote name=JMan]supposedly the Cubs are willing to eat a big portion of his remaining salary. Not sure what the number is but if it’s close to 50% I have to believe a team would go for the trade. The problem might be that Hendry is asking for too much in terms of prospect return. Either way the writing is on the wall and I think both Z and Soriano are gone before Sept 1st or they are gone in the off-season.[/quote]Rumor a day or two ago was that the Cubs offered the Yankees $14 million and they had no interest. I really do think you’ll have to pay at least 90% of his contract. He still has value, but teams look beyond that for players like Zambrano.
mb22Quote Reply
Bubbles hates Mike Martz…
He also started Breaking Bad from the beginning last night and is now on season 2.. You fagets were right. Awesome show
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]Bubbles hates Mike Martz…
He also started Breaking Bad from the beginning last night and is now on season 2.. You fagets were right. Awesome show[/quote]
Hurry up and catch up so we have more people in the weekly BB thread (dying laughing)
BerseliusQuote Reply
Campana to lead off
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
jtsunami2Quote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Hurry up and catch up so we have more people in the weekly BB thread (dying laughing)[/quote]if he keeps his pace from last night, he’ll be up to date by Friday.
mb22Quote Reply
[quote name=jtsunami2]Campana to lead off
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)[/quote]more losses!
mb22Quote Reply
Too bad Houston is as bad as they are or the Cubs would have a legitimate shot at the number 1 pick.
mb22Quote Reply
Well this is just great. Now who are Cubs fan supposed to make quasi-racist jokes about on a daily basis?
mikjones24Quote Reply
[quote name=mb22]if he keeps his pace from last night, he’ll be up to date by Friday.[/quote]
I’m still (dying laughing) at the pizza thing from last week’s episode
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=mikjones24]Well this is just great. Now who are Cubs fan supposed to make quasi-racist jokes about on a daily basis?[/quote]
There are still black(ish) people on the team, y’know…
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Hurry up and catch up so we have more people in the weekly BB thread (dying laughing)[/quote]
I am looking forward to joinging. Bubbles doesnt work friday and saturday so he might be caught up by sunday.
(dying laughing)
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=mikjones24]Well this is just great. Now who are Cubs fan supposed to make quasi-racist jokes about on a daily basis?[/quote]
The Cubs realized they had a surplus with Ramirez, Z, and Soriano on the roster
And Barney is half-Asian.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=mb22]Too bad Houston is as bad as they are or the Cubs would have a legitimate shot at blowing the number 1 pick.[/quote]
.
BerseliusQuote Reply
These prospects dont excite me..
I am heated about Greg Olsen getting shipped out of town. I jsut dont fucking get it
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]These prospects dont excite me..
I am heated about Greg Olsen getting shipped out of town. I jsut dont fucking get it[/quote]
Haven’t his numbers dropped since Cutler joined the team? Maybe they’re not a good match or something.
BerseliusQuote Reply
Um…why is Campana playing in RF?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I’m happy to see that James Jones is probably going to be dropping passes for the Vikings next year.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]the Cubs would have a legitimate shot at blowing the number 1 pick.[/quote]
I think that’s up to the No. 1 pick, b.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Olin Kreuz ————-> SF
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]These prospects dont excite me..
I am heated about Greg Olsen getting shipped out of town. I jsut dont fucking get it[/quote]
No, Brandon Manumaleuna is totally going to work out.
mikjones24Quote Reply
Daryn Colledge must be pissed that the Packers let him go while signing their mediocre kicker to a 5-year deal (dying laughing). I guess he’ll have to cry over his SB ring.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]Olin Kreuz ————-> SF[/quote]
This a possibility.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Sounds like TEX is really in on Bell. If it means Feliz —-> rotation, I’m in. I know it doesn’t, though.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Good move.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]This a possibility.[/quote]
Bairz are so dumb. I fucking hate it
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
Greg Olsen is too tall to be a good receiver
/Martz’d
jtsunami85Quote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]Bubbles hates Mike Martz…
He also started Breaking Bad from the beginning last night and is now on season 2.. You fagets were right. Awesome show[/quote]started it as well and one episode from season 2. Fulminated mercury is frickin’ sweet.
JManQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQArDMKdSVc[/quote]I don’t remember that scene. Is this Major League 2 or something?
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=jtsunami85]Greg Olsen is too tall to be a good receiver
/Martz’d[/quote]They traded Olsen? That makes no sense at all. Wasn’t he their best receiver last year? To be honest, I blocked out most of last season, but I remember his name coming up often.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]I don’t remember that scene. Is this Major League 2 or something?[/quote]
Correct.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Poor Troy (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
BTW how is Breaking Bad on regular cable.. Might be the most intense cable show since the shield
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=jtsunami85]Greg Olsen is too tall to be a good receiver
/Martz’d[/quote]
Martz hates TEs. Vernon Davis was basically a blocker until Martz left. Then, holy shit! Pro Bowl!
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]BTW how is Breaking Bad on regular cable.. Might be the most intense cable show since the shield[/quote]
It’s on late.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]BTW how is Breaking Bad on regular cable.. Might be the most intense cable show since the shield[/quote]probably the same as on DVD but you have to wait a week between episodes.
JManQuote Reply
[quote name=JMan]probably the same as on DVD but you have to wait a week between episodes.[/quote]
(dying laughing)
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Taint: How do you like school, JMan?
JMan: Closed.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=JMan]probably the same as on DVD but you have to wait a week between episodes.[/quote]
+1 faget point
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
The first episode of season 4 had something I’d never seen before: a warning for intense violence coming up before a scene. They had it before the show of course like many others, but right before a scene. I’d never seen that before.
mb22Quote Reply
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/28/49ers-trying-to-take-olin-kreutz-from-bears/
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/28/49ers-trying-to-take-olin-kreutz-from-bears/[/quote]
How much does Kreutz have left in the tank? 13 years is a lot of years in the trenches.
BerseliusQuote Reply
So I haven’t been following these football shenanigans. Is it a free-for-all right now, or was Kruetz already in free agency?
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]How much does Kreutz have left in the tank? 13 years is a lot of years in the trenches.[/quote]
We only need a year out of him. But those centers seem to hold up better than most OL.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
49ers are 20 mill under the cap
dylanjQuote Reply
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Snyder can be a C. Shit, Baas was a total bust until he had one good year at C
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]49ers are 20 mill under the cap[/quote]
Still need two interior OL, a CB, a DE and maybe an OLB.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]Snyder can be a C. Shit, Baas was a total bust until he had one good year at C[/quote]
He might have been asking too much, but he was a good C. The left side of the line will be good, but I have serious concerns about the right.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
i dont think we need two more OL. A CB yes, meh on DE and OLB
dylanjQuote Reply
I have more faith in Davis than Staley at this point. Davis is going to be a star in this league
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]i dont think we need two more OL. A CB yes, meh on DE and OLB[/quote]
Offensive linemen are something that pretty much every team always needs more of (dying laughing)
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Offensive linemen are something that pretty much every team always needs more of (dying laughing)[/quote]Except the Bears……
…..wait.
binkyQuote Reply
The Tony Campana era begins…
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Who says Campana has no on-base skills?
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]i dont think we need two more OL. A CB yes, meh on DE and OLB[/quote]
We don’t have a starting caliber C unless Heitmann is full strength. We have depth in several players, but it’s still a need.
Who steps into the NT/DE spot if there’s an injury? Jean-Francois? Unless I’m forgetting someone, there’s not good depth there. Same with OLB.
[quote name=dylanj]I have more faith in Davis than Staley at this point. Davis is going to be a star in this league[/quote]
What have you seen in Davis that makes you think that?
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]The Tony Campana era begins…[/quote]From what I’ve heard, it’s goingo to be more like the Tyler Colvin era.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]What have you seen in Davis that makes you think that?[/quote]
That’s a serious question, by the way.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
…infield single! Guffaw.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Campy’s speed making things happen!
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Campy’s speed making things happen![/quote]
He’s like a little hamster.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I like the fact that at a very young age Davis showed improvement through the season. I like his size and think his technique can only improve. I also loved how he ended the year.
dylanjQuote Reply
and heitmann is out for the year
dylanjQuote Reply
Campana is fast
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
I mean he could be a solid 5th outfielder for this team
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]…infield single! Guffaw.[/quote]I wouldn’t be surprised, if he was successful and got regular playing time, if he ended up leading all of baseball in that category.
binkyQuote Reply
Weeks has at least a severe sprain, could be bad.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]I wouldn’t be surprised, if he was successful and got regular playing time, if he ended up leading all of baseball in that category.[/quote]If only he could learn to hit groundballs to the left side of the infield.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]If only he could learn to hit groundballs to the left side of the infield.[/quote]
…or if he learned how to bunt better.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
At age 25, Juan Pierre and his 1.6 WAR finished 10th in the MVP voting. Any chance Campana ascends to achieve the lofty greatness of Juan Pierre?
AndCountingQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]…or if he learned how to bunt better.[/quote]He’s gotta be a better bunter than he’s showed. When I’ve seen him he looks nervous. He may just be a bit twitchy.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]and heitmann is out for the year[/quote]
I thought he would be back this year for some reason…
[quote name=dylanj]I like the fact that at a very young age Davis showed improvement through the season. I like his size and think his technique can only improve. I also loved how he ended the year.[/quote]
I’d like to see him play next to a guard other than Rachal, but who else do you put there? Boone? A rookie?
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]He’s gotta be a better bunter than he’s showed. When I’ve seen him he looks nervous. He may just be a bit twitchy.[/quote]
Rice CubeQuote Reply
He has 4 hits on 11 bunt attempts. Not terrible, and a really small sample size in any case.
ACTQuote Reply
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/28/release-tracker/
For the right price, I’d take a look at Gregg, Roy Williams, Seubert and O’Hara.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]He has 4 hits on 11 bunt attempts. Not terrible, and a really small sample size in any case.[/quote]I guess it was a misperception. I couldn’t recall a single successful bunt attempt. But I’ve missed a few games here and there.
Baseball should implement a roaming leadoff man lineup. Campy is really only useful if he leads off an inning. In an RBI situation, it seems like he’s going to be a liability.
binkyQuote Reply
THat would be a fun rule.
binkyQuote Reply
Wells is having a terrible year.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]I guess it was a misperception. I couldn’t recall a single successful bunt attempt. But I’ve missed a few games here and there.
Baseball should implement a roaming leadoff man lineup. Campy is really only useful if he leads off an inning. In an RBI situation, it seems like he’s going to be a liability.[/quote]
That could seriously mess with a manager’s bullpen usage (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I hate this team. I really do
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]I hate this team. I really do[/quote]
Then take your Cubs jersey off. Pathetic.
/Byrd’d
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]
Baseball should implement a roaming leadoff man lineup. Campy is really only useful if he leads off an inning. In an RBI situation, it seems like he’s going to be a liability.[/quote]I think Campana’s low OBP (so far) limits his usefulness in leading off. I’d rather have a guy who draws a ton of walks (like Kosuke). Campy could be brought in to pinch-run if need be.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Major League 2 or something?[/quote]
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Bloop double?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Wells hits poorly for a former catcher.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Wells hits poorly for a former catcher.[/quote]
It’s too bad that at some point the pitchers start throwing you stuff other than straight fastballs in the middle of the plate.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Marmol’s hitting line was much better when he was a starter, for what it’s worth (not much).
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Marmol’s hitting line was much better when he was a starter, for what it’s worth (not much).[/quote]
Yeah, I guess when you’re a catcher you have to have a fairly good arm to gun down base-stealers, but as soon as you show you can’t hit sliders, you better learn how to throw one to stay in pro baseball.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
well arizona just paid a guy 63 mill to get knocked the fuck out by Willis
dylanjQuote Reply
Marcum throwing a lot of pitches so far.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Kolb ————> ARI
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]well arizona just paid a guy 63 mill to get knocked the fuck out by Willis[/quote]
Whatchoo talkin’ ’bout?
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
honestly, arizona gives cincy a run for their money for shittiest franchise in the nfl
dylanjQuote Reply
And they’ve still played for a championship (and nearly won it) more recently than CHC or SF.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]I think Campana’s low OBP (so far) limits his usefulness in leading off. I’d rather have a guy who draws a ton of walks (like Kosuke). Campy could be brought in to pinch-run if need be.[/quote]Yeah, if he can’t get on base, he’s useless. Can a team afford to keep a basestealing specialist on the team? How old is Campy, any chance he learns some patience?
binkyQuote Reply
He’s 25.
ACTQuote Reply
Nice relay by Castro: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=17383317
ACTQuote Reply
Sometimes the
luckvariance just isn’t with you…Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Yeah, if he can’t get on base, he’s useless. Can a team afford to keep a basestealing specialist on the team? How old is Campy, any chance he learns some patience?[/quote]his BB% in the minors was about 7.6 whereas in the majors it’s 5.6%. He is what he is.
JManQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]He’s 25.[/quote]Maybe if I wish REALLY hard, he’ll learn to hit.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Maybe if I wish REALLY hard, he’ll learn to hit.[/quote]He’ll be fighting hams this time next year.
binkyQuote Reply
if i am calculating right league avg walk rate is 8% so campana isn’t terrible. With zero power he needs an above avg walk-rate rather just slightly below-avg.
JManQuote Reply
Campy needs Ricky Henderson to teach him his batting stance. His strikezone would be virtually nonexistent.
ACTQuote Reply
Shitty variance.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Where was Ben Roethlisberger a few minutes ago, because ARI just got raped.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Campy needs Ricky Henderson to teach him his batting stance. His strikezone would be virtually nonexistent. [/quote]
Rudy will fix him.
/Hendry’d
binkyQuote Reply
MishQuote Reply
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-report-bears-acquire-former-steelers-te-spaeth-20110728,0,497000.story
spaeth…. the final frontier.
GWQuote Reply
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Zonk and Judd just speculated that Campy will have to add some muscle mass to be an everyday player.
Steroids.
binkyQuote Reply
I’m not saying he SHOULD do steroids. I’m saying if he ever wants a chance to realize his dream and to avoid dying in poverty and obscurity, it might help.
binkyQuote Reply
Sad news, I guess:
http://deadspin.com/5825690/
Rodrigo RamirezQuote Reply
bob bradley is gone
dylanjQuote Reply
Feel bad for Irabu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzeuvZc1KI8&feature=related
Also in bears news we released manielamasmea and signed Matt Spaeth,
Maybe they wont be retards and keep olsen around
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]bob bradley is gone[/quote]
Who’s Bob Bradley?
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Yes.
http://mashable.com/2011/07/28/arrested-development-movie/
Rodrigo RamirezQuote Reply
Sori’s power has completely evaporated since April, which is odd.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Sori’s power has completely evaporated since April, which is odd.[/quote]
Was this before or after the double off the wall?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Sori’s power has completely evaporated since April, which is luck.[/quote].
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
bob bradley = now former USMNT head coach
Snyds01Quote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Was this before or after the double off the wall?[/quote]Talking about homeruns, though, the only thing he’s good for these days.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Talking about homeruns, though, the only thing he’s good for these days.[/quote]
Well, y’know, doubles are kinda nice too.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Well, y’know, doubles are kinda nice too.[/quote]Yeah….unless they were balls he would have hit out in previous years. I’m just wondering if his legs have taken his power with them. It makes some sense if he came in after the off-season recharged, whacked 10 homers in the first couple months, then the fatigue set back in.
His ISO is .086 this month. So the doubles aren’t coming fast enough.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Yeah….unless they were balls he would have hit out in previous years. I’m just wondering if his legs have taken his power with them. It makes some sense if he came in after the off-season recharged, whacked 10 homers in the first couple months, then the fatigue set back in.
His ISO is .086 this month. So the doubles aren’t coming fast enough.[/quote]
That’s fair. I think he needs some Caribbean stem cells for his legs.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]That’s fair. I think he needs some Caribbean stem cells for his legs.[/quote]He’s signed for like 14 more years, that’s what’s most depressing.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]He’s signed for like 14 more years, that’s what’s most depressing.[/quote]
Plenty of time to get out of his funk.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Plenty of time to get out of his funk.[/quote]He could take a year off, get in shape, come back and finish the other 2 years of his contract. Actually, that’s not a bad idea, if he somehow “got better” in that off time.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=Luck Cube]Plenty of variance to get out of his luck.[/quote].
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]He could take a year off, get in shape, come back and finish the other 2 years of his contract. Actually, that’s not a bad idea, if he somehow “got better” in that off time.[/quote]
Maybe they can fake an injury and put him on the 60-day DL for a while. *shrug*
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Maybe they can fake an injury and put him on the 60-day DL for a while. *shrug*[/quote]He would have to agree to it, or the union would be pretty upset. I was thinking more like an Andy Pettit situation.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Maybe they can fake an injury and put him on the 60-day DL for a while. *it ain’t me*[/quote].
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Pat: Soriano can tie it with a long ball.
Or, bloop one between the second baseman and right field.
Or more likely, strike out on a ball in the dirt.
binkyQuote Reply
They could kill him. At night. In his sleep. Goodnight, Professor
*shhhhhhhhhhhhhh*
binkyQuote Reply
No matter what I’m pretty happy with that AB by Soriano.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
It’s always good when a slugger can ground into a force. That’s how you slowly build your way to a #1/#2 draft pick.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=Snyds01]bob bradley = now former USMNT head coach[/quote]
United States Mutant Ninja Turtles?
WenningtonsGorillaCockQuote Reply
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-report-indians-pursuing-cubs-fukudome-20110728,0,471140.story
seems about right…
Snyds01Quote Reply
[quote name=josh]It’s always good when a slugger can ground into a force. That’s how you slowly build your way to a #1/#2 draft pick.[/quote]
Would be nice if Baltimore won tonight to open up a bit of space between them and the Cubs.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Yes…or US Mens National Team
Snyds01Quote Reply
[quote name=WenningtonsGorillaCock]United States Mutant Ninja Turtles?[/quote]I’d be lying if I didn’t admit the first time I saw that acronym, I thought of our four favorite heroes in half shells, too.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Snyds01]http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-report-indians-pursuing-cubs-fukudome-20110728,0,471140.story
seems about right…[/quote]Holy Shit. Byrd is sick of losing, I guess. The only person who wants to ride it out is Ramirez.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Would be nice if Baltimore won tonight to open up a bit of space between them and the Cubs.[/quote]C’mon D-LEE!
binkyQuote Reply
Aisle424Quote Reply
Hmm, guess Quade doesn’t want to use Colvin as a pinch-hitter.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Hmm, guess Quade doesn’t want to use Colvin as a pinch-hitter.[/quote]
Oh wait, there we go.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
That’s what the hobbit was talking about?
mb22Quote Reply
This is closer to what Z’s “grimace” looked like.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Yeah, he looked like he was making a face at his daughter or something.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=mb22]That’s what the hobbit was talking about?[/quote]
Apparently.
Aisle424Quote Reply
New Pic of the Day up:
http://obstructedview.net/chicago-cubs/articles/ov-pic-of-the-day-you-have-to-support-the-team.html
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Snyds01]bob bradley = now former USMNT head coach[/quote]
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]These prospects dont excite me..
I am heated about Greg Olsen getting shipped out of town. I jsut dont fucking get it[/quote]Olson is just a guy. He fumbles, run poor routes, and doesn’t block. In short, a poor fit for Martz’ scheme. Greg Olson is wildly overrated by Bears fans. He’s nothing special. No one should bemoan the loss of a fumbly, stupid fast guy.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Hmm, guess Quade doesn’t want to use Colvin.[/quote]
.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply