This was the sort of game where, if you weren’t a Cubs fan, you would have a hard time believing a team could lose like that to a shitty AAA team like the Astros. But since we are Cubs fans, this barely even registered on our misery index.
I don’t know who Bogusevic is (though by just hearing his name, I would have guessed “mid-ranked tennis player” instead of “major league baseball player” as his occupation). I’m also still not sure if I’m spelling Bogusevic correctly and I don’t care enough to look it up. I also don’t know what Marlon was trying to accomplish by jumping into the wall like that.
What I do know is that he could be twenty feet tall and he wouldn’t have been close to catching it. Also, the Cubs still suck.
Still cant believe it happened.. (dying laughing) (dying laughing)
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=18100313
Manly.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Aramis!
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=18101391
ESPN.com says this went 451 feet.
ACTQuote Reply
Anyway, I said this before, but Marmol’s slider was flat as a pancake today. He even got away with a few hangers before serving up the gopher ball. I hope he fixes it before his next outing (again). It’s a shame because he had a really good stretch after getting back into the closer position.
ACTQuote Reply
Fuck Juan Pierre in the ear.
Aisle424Quote Reply
The jump was inexplicable. They were showing a long shot on WGN and the ball never even entered the frame that I ever saw. That was Marlon Byrd’s “F-U” to Marmol. If Z had done that, he’d have been given 1 week no dinner.
binkyQuote Reply
Christ. The draft was great. It really was. I don’t know if I can stand to sit through another season of this team, if they don’t make some big league moves as well.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Christ. The draft was great. It really was. I don’t know if I can stand to sit through another season of this team, if they don’t make some big league moves as well.[/quote]
Too bad mb21/22 wasn’t happy about it. Weren’t you glad to see CHC spend money, mb?
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
The ball traveled 116 mph of Aramis’ bat last night on the HR.
ACTQuote Reply
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=18089973
Nice vibrato on the call by the HOU crew.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
To put that in perspective, Tony Campana doesn’t run quite that fast.
ACTQuote Reply
I just read the last thread, and a few minutes later Truckin’ came on the playlist here. Spooky!
Suburban kidQuote Reply
It’s the “Classic Rock” playlist, and the following songs were Gigantic and Taking Care of Business, songs which would also be used to describe Z or his career.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
The Pixies are considered classic rock now?
ACTQuote Reply
(dying laughing) @ marmol
mb22Quote Reply
[quote name=ACT]The Pixies are considered classic rock now?[/quote]Cars only get 10 years before their classics. The Pixies are like 30 years old.
binkyQuote Reply
I never would have considered The Pixies classic rock. I haven’t listened to them for a long time now.
mb22Quote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]Too bad mb21/22 wasn’t happy about it. Weren’t you glad to see CHC spend money, mb?[/quote]
mb22Quote Reply
Just watched the grand slam. ACT was right. That slider didn’t move an inch.
mb21Quote Reply
MB, thanks for the Truckin’ themed post. Very well written. LSA even if you hate the Cubs draft (dying laughing)
WaLiQuote Reply
[quote name=mb22]
[/quote]
The 2001 draft is like a wooden staircase at dusk?
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
You still have hope, Ryno
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Aramis!
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=18101391
ESPN.com says this went 451 feet.[/quote]They were already winning, so there was no pressure.
Wait…
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]You still have hope, Ryno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYpwAtnywTk%5B/quote%5D
Someone needs to show her a video on how to not be an annoying cunt. There’s no makeup for that.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Just watched the grand slam. ACT was right. That slider didn’t move an inch.[/quote]
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=WaLi]MB, thanks for the Truckin’ themed post. Very well written. LSA even if you hate the Cubs draft (dying laughing)[/quote]I enjoyed doing it. Just another excuse to listed to the Dead. As if I haven’t come up with enough excuses so far. (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Just watched the grand slam. ACT was right. That slider didn’t move an inch.[/quote]Well, the grand slam was on a fastball (91 mph), but his sliders looked like that, only a few mph slower. Of course, his fastball isn’t as good as it was last year, either.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9vZWEAP-7A[/quote](dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
GBTSQuote Reply
Marm relied more on his fastball last night; I think he realized his slider wasn’t getting the desired results (just one swing and miss, and on a hanger at that).
ACTQuote Reply
A Typo is not worth a snarky post.
Think before you write.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 16, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply 1 recs
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Well, the grand slam was on a fastball (91 mph), but his sliders looked like that, only a few mph slower. Of course, his fastball isn’t as good as it was last year, either.[/quote](dying laughing) no wonder it was so straight. (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]A Typo is not worth a snarky post.
Think before you write.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 16, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply 1 recs[/quote]
Wouldn’t a typo be one of the things to justify a snarky post?
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]A Typo is not worth a snarky post.
Think before you write.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 16, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply 1 recs[/quote]I have no idea how you and Ryno can read that place.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]A Typo is not worth a snarky post.
Think before you write.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 16, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply 1 recs[/quote]
sigh
BerseliusQuote Reply
lineup for today’s extremely crucial game
Castro
Barney
Rodrigo
Peenya
Gro
Byrd
Adolfo
Colvin
Coleman
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]A Typo is not worth a snarky post.
Think before you write.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 16, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply 1 recs[/quote]
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]lineup for today’s extremely crucial game
Castro
Barney
Rodrigo
Peenya
Gro
Byrd
Adolfo
Colvin
Coleman[/quote]
Took me a while to figure that one out (dying laughing)
MishQuote Reply
Seriously though, why did Byrd jump?
GBTSQuote Reply
Great interview of Wilken at Miles blog. Talks about this years draft, selecting patient hitters and the types of pitchers he was looking for.
ABQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Seriously though, why did Byrd jump?[/quote]How was that not an “I don’t give a shit” move?
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=AB]Great interview of Wilken at Miles blog. Talks about this years draft, selecting patient hitters and the types of pitchers he was looking for.[/quote]
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Seriously though, why did Byrd jump?[/quote]www.seriouslythoughwhydidbyrdjump.com
mb21Quote Reply
I personally would have gone with http://www.whydidbyrdjump.com/seriouslythough
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]I personally would have gone with http://www.whydidbyrdjump.com/seriouslythough%5B/quote%5DYou would have been wrong.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Seriously though, why did Byrd jump?[/quote]Phony hustle.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Seriously though, why did Byrd jump?[/quote]
Ramirez told him to.
BerseliusQuote Reply
Nice article about Sosa wanting to give some advice to Z here: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110817&content_id=23335826&vkey=news_chc&c_id=chc&partnerId=rss_chc
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Seriously though, why did Byrd jump?[/quote]
Possible reasons…
1. Phony hustle (already stated)
2. Compensating for something
3. Bad depth perception
4. Frustration
5. Mad at Marmol
6. 4+5
7. Because he’s the Wyrd
8. Decoying Houston runners into thinking it’s a deep sac fly, thus opening up the possibility that one guy would overrun another on the bases, thereby negating that baserunner and keeping the game tied (pfft)
9. Thought Tal’s Hill was there and wanted to preemptively leap to avoid having to climb it flat-footed
10. I dunno
Rice CubeQuote Reply
7. Because he’s the Wyrd
Suburban kidQuote Reply
The Pixies are to Twin Peaks in 1996 what Dallas is to Ozzie Smith in 2011 and the Grateful Dead to Jack Benny in 2 or 228..
Suburban kidQuote Reply
#8 sounds cheesy until it works.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid]The Pixies are to Twin Peaks in 1996 what Dallas is to Ozzie Smith in 2011 and the Grateful Dead to Jack Benny in 2 or 228..[/quote]It all makes sense now.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=josh]#8 sounds cheesy until it works.[/quote]
Well, it IS the Astros (dying laughing) Gotta try something.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I don’t know why Byrd jumped, but it’s like Torrii Hunter trying to rob a 795 foot home run. I’m guessing it just seemed like the right thing to do at the time. (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
I still haven’t even heard of the guy who hit the home run even though I’ve read his name 3 or 4 times since last night.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I still haven’t even heard of the guy who hit the home run even though I’ve read his name 3 or 4 times since last night.[/quote]
even better, he was drafted as a pitcher
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I still haven’t even heard of the guy who hit the home run even though I’ve read his name 3 or 4 times since last night.[/quote]
Bogusevic I think. He’s been on the active roster for about a month, but nobody’s really cared about the Astros in even longer except to try to throw them into the AL West.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/17/orlando-hernandez-to-retire/
WTF? I thought he was history like 5 years ago.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
The Cubs will oppose moving the Astros to the NL West. With the AStros in the Central it all but guarantees the Cubs they won’t finish in last place.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/17/orlando-hernandez-to-retire/
WTF? I thought he was history like 5 years ago.[/quote]You must be remembering his 50 year birthday party 5 years ago.
mb21Quote Reply
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/17/tom-ricketts-hates-boises-ballpark/
(dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
KG
Matt Szczur, OF, Cubs (High-A Daytona): 3-for-5, 2B. .252/.282/.395 line in month-plus of Florida State League play has cooled hype down to more appropriate levels.
Josh Vitters, 3B/1B, Cubs (Double-A Tennessee): 2-for-3, 2 R, 2 RBI, BB. .287/.321/.452 line at Double-A qualifies as progress, but is it enough?
Brett Jackson, OF, Cubs (Triple-A Iowa): 2-for-5, R, 2 RBI, K. Snaps out of 1-for-13 slump but has still whiffed nine time in last four games and 42 times in 118 at-bats; .297/.382/.576 overall.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]KG
Matt Szczur, OF, Cubs (High-A Daytona): 3-for-5, 2B. .252/.282/.395 line in month-plus of Florida State League play has cooled hype down to more appropriate levels.
Josh Vitters, 3B/1B, Cubs (Double-A Tennessee): 2-for-3, 2 R, 2 RBI, BB. .287/.321/.452 line at Double-A qualifies as progress, but is it enough?
Brett Jackson, OF, Cubs (Triple-A Iowa): 2-for-5, R, 2 RBI, K. Snaps out of 1-for-13 slump but has still whiffed nine time in last four games and 42 times in 118 at-bats; .297/.382/.576 overall.[/quote]
Ewwwww @ bolded
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Not much interest in today’s Cub game after yesterday’s fiasco. Fortunately, ESPN is showing a Cliff Lee game, so I might get my daily baseball fix after all.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Ewwwww @ bolded[/quote]Aramis Ramirez’s influence trickles down through the whole system.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Aramis Ramirez’s influence trickles down through the whole system.[/quote]
Even to the white folk.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
MishQuote Reply
Aramis teaches us that you don’t need to play good defense, draw walks, or run the bases well (as long as you have a lot of power and don’t strike out much).
ACTQuote Reply
Jackson’s K% at AAA is now 30%. That’s an 8% jump from previous levels. If his K-rate only jumped half of that at the ML level, he’d still have the highest K% in the majors. I’m concerned.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]
[/quote]
He’s in the Michigan Frog pose too. Awesome.
In other news, I worked out on Monday and now my entire lower body is sore so I’m almost QWOPing everywhere.
/cool story bro’d
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]In other news, I worked out on Monday and now my entire lower body is sore so I’m almost QWOPing everywhere.[/quote]
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/steve_rushin/08/17/1908.cubs/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
MishQuote Reply
The ginger hath spoken:
http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/6870686/chicago-cubs-pitcher-ryan-dempster-sure-welcome-back-carlos-zambrano
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/steve_rushin/08/17/1908.cubs/index.html?hpt=hp_t2[/quote]
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Are the Astros a replacement level team? I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a team with as many no-names as this one.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Are the Astros a replacement level team? I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a team with as many no-names as this one.[/quote]
I think that depends on whether you think they can win 49 games…
Rice CubeQuote Reply
http://www.doesthemiamiathleticdepartmentstillexist.com
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Are the Astros a replacement level team? I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a team with as many no-names as this one.[/quote]
J.B. Shuck is a Future Star, mb.
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Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]
[/quote]
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Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Suh needs to chill the fuck out.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeWERWvEnO4
Suh needs to chill the fuck out.[/quote]
I don’t know. If quarterbacks are going to be hellbent on doing the Favre-esque not-going-to-go-down-easily-because-I’m-big-and-strong-and-can-still-make-a-play thing, then I think a defense can jump on his head and make him go down.
It’s fucking tackle football and the guy getting tackled is going to resist being tackled. So you make it so he can’t resist.
Otherwise just make the QB wear a flag and the play is dead when it gets pulled.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]I don’t know. If quarterbacks are going to be hellbent on doing the Favre-esque not-going-to-go-down-easily-because-I’m-big-and-strong-and-can-still-make-a-play thing, then I think a defense can jump on his head and make him go down.
It’s fucking tackle football and the guy getting tackled is going to resist being tackled. So you make it so he can’t resist.
Otherwise just make the QB wear a flag and the play is dead when it gets pulled.[/quote]
Yeah, I was wrong about Suh.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
And that one against CIN was a preseason game.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
That and, you know, the NFL saying he needs to chill the fuck out.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]That and, you know, the NFL saying he needs to chill the fuck out.[/quote]
This Suh fellow seems not to like QBs very much.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]This Suh fellow seems not to like QBs very much.[/quote]
Little bit.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Great player. But it’s possible to tackle people without trying to hurt them.
That goes for you too, James Harrison.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]It’s possible to tackle people without trying to hurt them..[/quote]Wut?
/Miami’d.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Wut?
/Miami’d.[/quote]
DET isn’t paying Suh in prostitues and abortions…although, I should look at his contract.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Rodrigo is having a nice August.
.365/.393/.577, .412 wOBA through yesterday’s game, and now 4 HR
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Rodrigo is having a nice August.
.365/.393/.577, .412 wOBA through yesterday’s game, and now 4 HR[/quote]
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Don’t need to walk when you hit .365 (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Legitimate question for y’all here.
How soon do we see no overslot bonuses in the draft?
Is this why some teams are already diverting their money into the int’l market?
Seems like it will turn into a situation where teams should just go for signability (high floor, low ceiling college guys) in the draft and go after potential and tools/youth in the international market.
8volumesthickQuote Reply
[quote name=8volumesthick]Legitimate question for y’all here.
How soon do we see no overslot bonuses in the draft?
Is this why some teams are already diverting their money into the int’l market?
Seems like it will turn into a situation where teams should just go for signability (high floor, low ceiling college guys) in the draft and go after potential and tools/youth in the international market.[/quote]
Probably not for a while on slotting. Things are going pretty well for baseball right now and there haven’t been any rumbles that there are going to be any sticking points in the next CBA. I’m not sure if the MLBPA would strike over slotting. Some sports biz guys like Maury Brown say the feeling in the MLBPA is that slotting is just on step on the slippery slope towards a salary cap, which they definitely do not want.
BerseliusQuote Reply
I wonder how many players in the top 2-3 rounds actually signed for slot money. I don’t think it was very many.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]I wonder how many players in the top 2-3 rounds actually signed for slot money. I don’t think it was very many.[/quote]
here’s 1st round and supplemental
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/8/14/2362922/draft-signings
8volumesthickQuote Reply
Casey Coleman’s having a bad day starting now, eh? Just following on Gameday from work, but that pitch location didn’t look very smart.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Bougesevic is a known Cubs killer
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Bougesevic is a known Cubs killer[/quote]
Naw he saw Casey Coleman pitching and thinks he’s in Des Moines.
8volumesthickQuote Reply
sorry 8vt, I accidentally edited your comment instead of quoting it (dying laughing)
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=8volumesthick]Naw he’s just geographically challenged and thinks he’s in Des Moines.[/quote]Over the course of his career, he’s averaging one game-winning grand slam per series against the Cubs.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Casey Coleman’s having a bad day starting now, eh? Just following on Gameday from work, but that pitch location didn’t look very smart.[/quote]
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
So Geovany Soto can still hit home runs.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
$20K for Suh’s “tackle” of Dalton. Dude hasn’t even started his second season and he’s thrice been fined for hits on QBs.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]So Geovany Soto can still hit home runs.[/quote]
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]sorry 8vt, I accidentally edited your comment instead of quoting it (dying laughing)[/quote]
competency, thy name is obstructed view!
8volumesthickQuote Reply
[quote name=8volumesthick]competency, thy name is obstructed view![/quote]
no dinner for me tonight
BerseliusQuote Reply
Tyler with the super-high leverage strikeout.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Over the course of his career, he’s averaging one game-winning grand slam per series against the Cubs.
/Ari Kaplan[/quote]
fify
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Tyler Colvin is bad.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Tyler with the super-high leverage strikeout.[/quote]He’d have struck out even if the situation hadn’t been that important. He doesn’t discriminate.
binkyQuote Reply
That sucked.
ACTQuote Reply
Fixed again
BerseliusQuote Reply
Why for Castro swing at ball two?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Tyler Colvin is bad.[/quote]Since his callup, he’s put up a .196 /.224 /.478 line. That’s actually an improvement over his performance earlier this year.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Why for Castro swing at ball two?[/quote]Aramis would have swung at it.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Why for Castro swing at ball two?[/quote]Aramis Ramirez made him do it.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
And, as we all know, Aramis is Castro’s hero.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Since his callup, he’s put up a .196 /.224 /.478 line. That’s actually an improvement over his performance earlier this year.[/quote]Ye gods.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Since his callup, Tyler has taken 1 unintentional walk.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]And, as we all know, Aramis is Castro’s hero.[/quote]
Aramis is the wind beneath Castro’s wings.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Since his callup, Tyler has taken 1 unintentional walk.[/quote]
THAT’S WHY I DON’T READ THE NEWSPAPER!
Mike GundyQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Since his callup, Tyler has taken 1 unintentional walk.[/quote]An OF of Soriano, Colvin and Jackson might K 600 times.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
(dying laughing)…Grabow is the fireman.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
any one have a BA account, I wanted to get an article but do not have one. they have the suggested slot bonuses and I can not find them anywhere else
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/2009/05/mlb-cuts-slots-by-10-percent/
the link is located in the second paragraph of this article.
Snyds01Quote Reply
[quote name=Snyds01]any one have a BA account, I wanted to get an article but do not have one. they have the suggested slot bonuses and I can not find them anywhere else
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/2009/05/mlb-cuts-slots-by-10-percent/
the link is located in the second paragraph of this article.[/quote]I have one. I’ll post the slots in just a minute.
mb21Quote Reply
Top 15 picks, bonus, suggest slot
1. 8, 4
2. 6.35, 3.25
2. 3.4, 3
4. 4, 2.75
5. 7.5, 2.52
6. 6, 2.34
7. 5, 2.178
8. 2.9, 2043
9. 2.625, 1.962
10. 1.863, 1.1863
11. 2.525, 1.791
12, 2.525, 1.719
13. 2.1, 1.656
14. 2, 16.02
15. 2, 1.557
mb21Quote Reply
Of 33 first round picks, 5 signed for slot and 1 did not sign.
mb21Quote Reply
17 of 27 supplemental first round picks signed for above slot
mb21Quote Reply
19 of 30 2nd round picks signed above slot, 1 did not sign
mb21Quote Reply
Soto with the high-leverage K.
ACTQuote Reply
16 of 30 drafted in the 3rd signed for overslot, 4 did not sign
mb21Quote Reply
Time for the Cubs signature K-double play combo
BerseliusQuote Reply
4th round: 29 signed, 14 over slot
mb21Quote Reply
16 of 26 who signed in the 5th were over slot
mb21Quote Reply
All that info is from here: http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/draft/news/2011/2612132.html
mb21Quote Reply
As for a hard slot, I don’t want one. I like what we’re seeing these days in that the small market teams are going way over slot to sign guys. The Yankees went way cheap in this draft while the Royals, Pirates and Nationals had huge days.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Time for the Cubs signature K-double play combo[/quote]Yup.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Byrd with the high-leverage K.[/quote].
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I have one. I’ll post the slots in just a minute.[/quote]
Thanks
Snyds01Quote Reply
Among the top 10 picks, the Cubs went over slot by the smallest amount.
mb21Quote Reply
Well, at least Byrd didn’t hit into a double play.
ACTQuote Reply
Well, that inning was no fun.
ACTQuote Reply
pathetic
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Top 15 picks, bonus, suggest slot
1. 8, 4
2. 6.35, 3.25
2. 3.4, 3
4. 4, 2.75
5. 7.5, 2.52
6. 6, 2.34
7. 5, 2.178
8. 2.9, 2043
9. 2.625, 1.962
10. 1.863, 1.1863
11. 2.525, 1.791
12, 2.525, 1.719
13. 2.1, 1.656
14. 2, 16.02
15. 2, 1.557[/quote]
I’ll be picked 8th please
WenningtonsGorillaCockQuote Reply
It still surprises me how bad this team can be.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
In the first round, teams went an average of $948,163 over slot.
mb21Quote Reply
It’s really kind of amazing how teams went so far over slot in the early rounds. Kind of puts the Cubs draft into a little more perspective. Still a very good draft and glad to see them spend, but every team spent money this year.
mb21Quote Reply
I think it’s kind of bullshit that teams have to wait until August 15th to get these deals done when they’re still going way over slot. It would be nice if these guys could get a few weeks of action before the season ends, but thanks to Bud, nope. Can’t happen.
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[quote name=mb21]It’s really kind of amazing how teams went so far over slot in the early rounds. Kind of puts the Cubs draft into a little more perspective. Still a very good draft and glad to see them spend, but every team spent money this year.[/quote]
All I care about with the first two-three rounds is that the team signs its players (Colvin/Simpson like situations excluded). The important signs imho were guys like Dunson and Maples. How many teams went as overslot as the cubs did out of the top few rounds?
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[quote name=Berselius]All I care about with the first two-three rounds is that the team signs its players (Colvin/Simpson like situations excluded). The important signs imho were guys like Dunson and Maples. How many teams went as overslot as the cubs did out of the top few rounds?[/quote]The Royals spent $700K on a 29th round draft pick. I’ll look through it later, but it happens. The Cubs did well and nobody has matched the bonus the Cubs gave to a guy outside the top 2 rounds (Maples 2.5 million).
When I looked through the top 15 rounds yesterday and the signing bonuses, I did see a lot of $700K signing bonuses from other teams in the later rounds. The Cubs went a bit higher with Dunston and quite a bit higher with Maples.
The Royals went crazy in this draft.
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The Cubs gave out the 5th largest 2nd round bonus
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Cubs were tied with 3 other teams for 9th largest bonus in the 3rd round
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2nd largest 4th round bonus
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8th largest 5th round bonus
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O’s 6th round pick signed for $1.5 million
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AFter the O’s 6th rounder, the next largest is the Pirates 9th rounder for $1.2 million and then Dunston and Maples were the only others over $1 million through 15 rounds.
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I see the Cubs are still losing.
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Looking only through 15 rounds what we have is the Cubs spent a little more than average overall, but went way over slot on just two players (Dunston and Maples). The Cubs were regularly over slot though, but those two stand out.
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[quote name=mb21]Looking only through 15 rounds what we have is the Cubs spent a little more than average overall, but went way over slot on just two players (Dunston and Maples). The Cubs were regularly over slot though, but those two stand out.[/quote]
It also sounds like the players they didn’t end up signing weren’t that big of a deal. It sounds like they got just about everyone they wanted.
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[quote name=Rice Cube]It also sounds like the players they didn’t end up signing weren’t that big of a deal. It sounds like they got just about everyone they wanted.[/quote]That’s true for most organizations. I’m sure there’s one several teams wish they could have signed, but most teams got the guys they wanted.
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[quote name=mb21]That’s true for most organizations. I’m sure there’s one several teams wish they could have signed, but most teams got the guys they wanted.[/quote]
In that case, I’m glad the Cubs sort of kept up with the Joneses 😉
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The difference with the Cubs is that they took two guys in the later rounds who wanted big bucks and got them signed. Most teams just pick those guys, send them an offer and see if they’re at all interested and move on.
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Too bad Minute Maid Park is shaped weird or that 3-0 green light would’ve looked smart.
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If I counted right, Carlos Pena needs 28 more walks to become the first Cub since I don’t remember when to get 100 walks in a season.
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Sosa had 100 walks at some point during the late 90s or early 2000s, didn’t he?
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Sosa had over 100 BB in 2001 and 2002
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[quote name=mb21]Sosa had 100 walks at some point during the late 90s or early 2000s, didn’t he?[/quote]
I don’t remember. All I remember are steroid-assisted home runs (dying laughing)
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Man, mb21, you’re full of useless shit today aren’t you?
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Since 1947, the Cubs have had only 4 seasons in which a batter has walked 100 times. Sosa has 2 of them. Richie Ashburn in 1960 and Gary Matthews in 1984 are the other 2. http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/share.cgi?id=Vv800
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11 times in Cubs history a batter has had 100 walks or more: http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/share.cgi?id=f2Nt2
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[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]Man, mb21, you’re full of useless shit today aren’t you?[/quote](dying laughing)
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[quote name=mb21]11 times in Cubs history a batter has had 100 walks or more: http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/share.cgi?id=f2Nt2%5B/quote%5D
Methinks Barry Bonds has more walks than all those Cubs combined.
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A pregnant goldfish is called a twit.
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It is possible to lead a cow upstairs but not downstairs.
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A duck’s quack doesn’t echo.
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A cockroach can live nine days without its head before it starves to death.
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[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]A pregnant goldfish is called a twit.[/quote][quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]It is possible to lead a cow upstairs but not downstairs.[/quote][quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]A duck’s quack doesn’t echo.[/quote]What are you, a child? How old are you?
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White menElephants can’t jump.Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]What are you, a child? How old are you?[/quote]
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Every year more people are killed by donkeys, than in aircraft crashes.
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Women love cats. Men say they love cats, but when women aren’t looking, men kick cats.
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The average human eats 8 spiders in their lifetime at night.
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/mb21
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That’s not the one I was looking for, but close enough.
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[quote name=GBTS]That’s not the one I was looking for, but close enough.[/quote]
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(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
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For the rest of the week (in real life), my only speech will be quotes from that press conference.
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Starlin with yet another 1-5 day.
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[quote name=ACT]Starlin with yet another 1-5 day.[/quote]he is DEFINITELY what is wrong with this team.
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[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]For the rest of the week (in real life), my only speech will be quotes from that press conference.[/quote]
Dr. Taint should make a Coors Light press conference spoof.
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This Cubs team is funny.
mb21Quote Reply
Wow. The Cubs yet again get a runner on third and no outs, and he fails to score. I’m speechless.
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I think there should be a special run expectancy chart just for Cubs.
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[quote name=ACT]Wow. The Cubs yet again get a runner on third and no outs, and he fails to score. I’m speechless.[/quote]At least they’re good at something.
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new shit: http://obstructedview.net/chicago-cubs/articles/babip-regression.html
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