Assuming health, the Cubs rotation appears to be set with Matt Garza, Jeff Samardzija, Travis Wood, Scott Baker and Scott Feldman. I was curious what we could reasonably expect from this group next year and decided to use the CAIRO projections to calculate percentile forecasts. Before that, there's been some recent talk about how this rotation is better than last year's rotation.
My first thought was that, no, this is not better and it may not even be as good. My second thougt was that it might have more upside though that's not certain. So I decided to look and see which rotation is better.
I used last year's CAIRO projections and compared the rotation that I thought would give the Cubs their best rotation entering the season. I competely dismissed the idea of Jeff Samardzija starting until midway through spring training when it appeared a certainty he would be starting. I was wrong in thinking that was the dumbest idea I'd ever heard of. Anyway, I used the following 2012 rotation: Ryan Dempter, Matt Garza, Carlos Zambrano, Travis Wood and Chris Volstad. (UPDATE: obviously Volstad and Z can't be in the same rotation since they were traded for one another so switch out Z for Samardzija).
That rotation was projected to produce 8.5 WAR. If we remove the worst starter in that group, Volstad, and replace him with what was projected for Samardzija, it would lower it to 8.0. This year's rotation is projected by CAIRO to produce 6.8 WAR.
CAIRO projects the rehabbing Scott Baker to throw only 30 innings so if we're generous and adjust that to 180 innings, the group would then be worth 8.3 WAR, which is equal to last year's rotation entering the season.
Zambrano was later traded so if we swap him out with what we can now reasonably expect from Samardzija, that rotation would have been worth about 10 WAR, so it's still better thant his year's rotation.
The percentile forecasts for this year's rotation are below. The WAR uses FIP.
Garza | G | GS | W | L | IP | H | R | ER | HR | BB | HBP | SO | RA | ERA | FIP | WAR |
80% | 30 | 30 | 11 | 8 | 180 | 145 | 73 | 65 | 16 | 50 | 3 | 186 | 3.63 | 3.24 | 2.99 | 4.5 |
65% | 27 | 27 | 9 | 9 | 165 | 139 | 71 | 64 | 17 | 50 | 4 | 163 | 3.88 | 3.48 | 3.34 | 3.3 |
Baseline | 25 | 25 | 7 | 10 | 150 | 132 | 69 | 62 | 18 | 49 | 5 | 143 | 4.13 | 3.71 | 3.69 | 2.3 |
35% | 20 | 20 | 4 | 9 | 120 | 111 | 58 | 53 | 16 | 42 | 5 | 109 | 4.37 | 3.95 | 4.04 | 1.3 |
20% | 17 | 17 | 3 | 9 | 105 | 101 | 54 | 49 | 15 | 39 | 5 | 91 | 4.62 | 4.18 | 4.39 | 0.6 |
The baseline WAR is a bit different for this purpose because I calculated it myself.
Samardzija | G | GS | W | L | IP | H | R | ER | HR | BB | HBP | SO | RA | ERA | FIP | WAR |
80% | 57 | 20 | 11 | 6 | 162 | 125 | 66 | 60 | 13 | 59 | 3 | 180 | 3.67 | 3.31 | 2.93 | 4.2 |
65% | 52 | 18 | 9 | 7 | 148 | 121 | 65 | 59 | 14 | 58 | 4 | 159 | 3.93 | 3.56 | 3.31 | 3.0 |
Baseline | 48 | 16 | 7 | 8 | 135 | 115 | 63 | 57 | 14 | 56 | 5 | 139 | 4.19 | 3.82 | 3.69 | 2.0 |
35% | 38 | 13 | 4 | 8 | 108 | 96 | 53 | 49 | 13 | 48 | 5 | 106 | 4.46 | 4.07 | 4.07 | 1.1 |
20% | 33 | 11 | 3 | 8 | 94 | 88 | 50 | 45 | 13 | 45 | 5 | 89 | 4.72 | 4.32 | 4.44 | 0.5 |
Because Samardzija had been a reliever prior to last season, he's still projected for some relief appearances. As a starter only, those rates would be just a bit higher (WAR a bit lower), but it's not that important to be precise at this point.
Wood | G | GS | W | L | IP | H | R | ER | HR | BB | HBP | SO | RA | ERA | FIP | WAR |
80% | 35 | 34 | 13 | 8 | 199 | 176 | 89 | 82 | 19 | 64 | 5 | 177 | 4.05 | 3.73 | 3.49 | 3.5 |
65% | 32 | 31 | 10 | 10 | 182 | 168 | 87 | 80 | 20 | 63 | 6 | 156 | 4.30 | 3.97 | 3.84 | 2.4 |
Baseline | 29 | 28 | 8 | 10 | 166 | 159 | 84 | 77 | 20 | 61 | 7 | 136 | 4.55 | 4.21 | 4.18 | 1.4 |
35% | 23 | 23 | 5 | 10 | 132 | 132 | 71 | 65 | 18 | 52 | 7 | 104 | 4.80 | 4.45 | 4.52 | 0.6 |
20% | 20 | 20 | 4 | 9 | 116 | 120 | 65 | 60 | 17 | 48 | 7 | 87 | 5.05 | 4.69 | 4.86 | 0.1 |
The Cubs top two are relatively good, but afte that there's a considerable drop in expectations.
Scott Baker | G | GS | W | L | IP | H | R | ER | HR | BB | HBP | SO | RA | ERA | FIP | WAR |
80% | 7 | 7 | 3 | 1 | 36 | 35 | 15 | 14 | 2 | 8 | 0 | 32 | 3.84 | 3.53 | 2.65 | 1.1 |
65% | 6 | 6 | 2 | 1 | 33 | 35 | 16 | 15 | 3 | 9 | 1 | 26 | 4.45 | 4.13 | 3.43 | 0.6 |
Baseline | 6 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 30 | 35 | 17 | 16 | 4 | 10 | 1 | 22 | 5.07 | 4.73 | 4.21 | 0.3 |
35% | 5 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 24 | 30 | 15 | 14 | 4 | 9 | 1 | 15 | 5.69 | 5.32 | 4.98 | 0.0 |
20% | 4 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 21 | 28 | 15 | 14 | 4 | 9 | 2 | 12 | 6.30 | 5.92 | 5.76 | -0.2 |
I wouldn't put a lot of faith into the percentiles for Baker since they're based on only a 30 inning baseline. What I mean by that is that I wouldn't go taking the 2.65 FIP and 1.1 WAR in 36 innings and prorating that to 200 innings. Don't even consider that.
Feldman | G | GS | W | L | IP | H | R | ER | HR | BB | HBP | SO | RA | ERA | FIP | WAR |
80% | 26 | 20 | 9 | 4 | 119 | 130 | 60 | 54 | 11 | 28 | 1 | 87 | 4.56 | 4.07 | 3.44 | 2.2 |
65% | 24 | 18 | 7 | 5 | 110 | 125 | 60 | 54 | 12 | 28 | 2 | 75 | 4.90 | 4.40 | 3.86 | 1.4 |
Baseline | 22 | 17 | 5 | 6 | 100 | 119 | 58 | 52 | 12 | 28 | 3 | 64 | 5.25 | 4.73 | 4.27 | 0.8 |
35% | 17 | 13 | 3 | 6 | 80 | 100 | 49 | 45 | 11 | 25 | 3 | 48 | 5.59 | 5.05 | 4.69 | 0.2 |
20% | 15 | 12 | 2 | 6 | 70 | 91 | 46 | 42 | 11 | 24 | 3 | 39 | 5.93 | 5.38 | 5.11 | -0.1 |
Here's where using FIP for WAR becomes problematic. Feldman's FIP projection is half a run lower than his ERA. A RA-based WAR would probably have him at replacement level at best.
Comments
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Rice CubeQuote Reply
I dont’ care what anyone says, I fucking love profanity!
joshQuote Reply
The Cubs have non-tendered Ian Stewart, Jaye Chapman, and Zach Putnam according to MLB.com’s Carrie Muskat (on Twitter).
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#lTyle6m2fK5wsLQY.99
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Rodrigo wrote:
So does the inside of Derek Jeter’s gut.
SVBQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
I noticed that too.
SVBQuote Reply
Mark Reynolds was non tendered. For the right one year deal I’d take a flyer.
RodrigoQuote Reply
There’s also this. First time I’m seeing them connected.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/cubs-have-interest-in-michael-bourn.html
RodrigoQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
Correct.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ Rodrigo:
That would be nice.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ Rodrigo:
9 figures? (dying laughing)
dmick89Quote Reply
@ dmick89:
If they’re going to spend that kind of money they should have done it with Upton. Rather have him over Bourne.
RodrigoQuote Reply
How can Z, and the guy he was traded for be in the same rotation as the pre-season rotation?
Snyds0122Quote Reply
@ Snyds0122:
(dying laughing) good question.
dmick89Quote Reply
I had numerous rotations in mind when I wrote this so I was confused. Sorry about that.
dmick89Quote Reply
So, an NFL player murdered his girlfriend, drove to the stadium, and killed himself.
GBTSQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
An hour away from where I live.
/making it about me
dmick89Quote Reply
Fucking hell. The dude shot himself right in front of the coach and GM.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
Shit, are you okay?
EnricoPallazzoQuote Reply
@ EnricoPallazzo:
I’m safe.
mb21Quote Reply
Suburban kid wrote:
Shot his GF right in front of her mother. Nightmares all around.
Aisle424Quote Reply
I blame steroids.
WaLiQuote Reply
@ WaLi:
If Peyton Manning did this while on steroids he’d still be elected to the Hall of Fame.
dmick89Quote Reply
The Twitters are at it again. I think The Hope Monster is in charge of twitter.
mikeakaleroyQuote Reply
DeRosa——> new Cubs TV guy…. Maybe.
RodrigoQuote Reply
Cubs signed some asshole. Get on it guys.
MishQuote Reply
Holy crap. How did the Cubs convince Fujikawa to come to Chicago for that little money? At least it seems like a small amount to me.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ mikeakaleroy:
What for? Hoping that Scott Feldman is average? I’m all for that.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
He’s a reliever coming over from Japan. Odds are he’ll be a 7th or maybe 8th inning guy for the Cubs.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ Mish:
I have a hard time mustering the energy to write about signing the type of guys the Cubs have been signing over the last couple years. I need to come up with a basic “Cubs sign ______”. This way I can just replace the name.
dmick89Quote Reply
And they signed Fujikawa. 2/9.4 I think. Marmol should be gone soon.
I like signing a closer. Build his value and trade him. GMs will overpay for closers.
RodrigoQuote Reply
Cubs signed Kyuji Fujikawa, according to mlbtr.
joshQuote Reply
Have the Cubs done anything lately?
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Suburban kidQuote Reply
@ Suburban kid:
No, they just sat there, like an inanimate object. And then they signed Fujikawa.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
This would be hilarious actually. An mb mad lib. We can see how it works for each signing, given your perchance to rely on profanity laden rants. (dying laughing)
MishQuote Reply
new shit: http://obstructedview.net/news-and-rumors/cubs-sign-kyuji-fujikawa.html
dmick89Quote Reply