Projecting the 2012 Cubs: 1st Basemen

Bryan LaHair turned 29 years old in November and he's set to take over 1st base for the Cubs in 2012. LaHair was drafted in the 39th round of the 2002 Draft. Until a few years ago teams could do what they called draft and follow which meant they could draft a player, not sign him, but they retained his rights up until the next draft. The Mariners did just that with LaHair. They signed him in May of 2003. Five years later he made his big league debut and he hit .250/.315/.346. That was a .292 wOBA and a 77 wRC+.

In 2009 he was sent back to AAA and that's when he began to hit the ball very well. He hit .289/.354/.530 (.375 wOBA, 124 wRC+). He became a minor league free agent and the Cubs picked him up. He was even better then. He hit .308/.385/.557 (.402 wOBA, 136 wRC+) and followed that up last year by hitting .331/.405/.664 (.443 wOBA, 155 wRC+).

He set an I-Cubs record by passing Joe Hicks as he hit 38 of them. He led the PCL in wOBA, wRC+, OPS, OPS+, SLG, and HR. Mat Gamel finished in second with 28 home runs. LaHair has played in AAA for all or parts of 6 seasons and has nearly 3000 plate appearances there so the numbers are inflated, but that's a damn fine season.

After being called up last season he had 69 plate appearances and hit .288/.377/.508 (.381 wOBA, 138 wRC+). He won't hit that well over a full season, but based on his previous few seasons in AAA we should expect he can hit well enough to play at the big league level. Below are various 2012 projections for LaHair.

Projection PA H 2B 3B HR BB SO AVG OBP SLG wOBA
CAIRO 368 86 18 1 14 32 85 .261 .327 .450 .337
Guru  143  33  7  1  3  11  32 .251 .309 .397 .309
ZiPS 550 132 30 1 24 47 129 .262 .324 .469 .343
PECOTA 350 84 17 1 15 32 88 .263 .329 .463 .341
Oliver 311 74 16 0 14 29 76 .265 .335 .484 .352
Bill James 316 79 19 0 13 27 72 .273 .335 .474 .350
RotoChamp 436 98 29 5 12 56 114 .258 .353 .455 .354
Average 353 84 19 1 14 33 85 .262 .330 .456 .341

 

I'm going to guess that Jeff Baker gets a decent amount of playing time at 1st base against righties. Baker didn't have a very good season last year. From 2008 through 2010 Baker had wRC+'s of 96, 99 and 96. Baker got too many plate appearances last year vs right handed pitchers. I'd be surprised if we see that again. Baker's projections are shown below.

Projection PA H 2B 3B HR BB SO AVG OBP SLG wOBA
CAIRO 228 56 13 1 5 16 49 .267 .320 .408 .319
Guru  222  52  10  1  3  12  45 .251 .293 .355 .286
ZiPS 248 58 13 2 4 16 55 .250 .299 .375 .297
PECOTA 366 87 18 2 8 25 87 .256 .310 .390 .306
Oliver 242 58 12 1 3 15 49 .261 .308 .379 .303
Bill James 176 46 11 1 4 12 35 .280 .333 .433 .333
RotoChamp 213 53 12 1 4 13 48 .265 .310 .395 .310
Average 242 59 13 1 4 16 53 .261 .310 .391 .308

 

At some point next season the hope is that Anthony Rizzo will take over at 1st and be there for a long time to come. Rizzo had a disappointing MLB debut last year, but was dominating after returning to AAA. He wasn't too far behind LaHair among the league leaders in most offensive categories. Unfortunately I don't have access to his splits at AAA, but my guess is he started hitting lefties better than he previous had. Maybe not. It's entirely possible he did almost all the damage against righties.

If there's a concern for Rizzo it's that he hasn't been particularly good against lefties. Through 2010 he had hit about .300/.375/.510 against righties, but only .250/.310/.380 against lefties. That was only 339 PA against lefties so it's a small sample, but whatever damage Rizzo had done through 2010 it had primarily been against righties. He'd been an easy out otherwise. He was an easy out against both lefties and righties at the big league level.

Rizzo's projections are below.

Projection PA H 2B 3B HR BB SO AVG OBP SLG wOBA
CAIRO 406 83 25 1 11 35 95 .229 .301 .395 .305
Guru  195  29  13  2  3  30  49 .184 .324 .335 .304
PECOTA 280 62 15 0 9 24 71 .243 .310 .418 .315
Oliver 311 69 18 0 11 27 76 .249 .320 .445 .331
Bill James 434 94 31 1 14 41 110 .236 .312 .425 .318
RotoChamp 277 62 14 2 12 27 74 .248 .340 .464 .350
Average 317 67 19 1 10 31 79 .232 .318 .414 .321

 

If we estimate that LaHair gets 350 PA, Baker another 150 PA and Rizzo the final 150 we can get a WAR projection for the position. This gives us a Batting WAR of .7 for LaHair, -.1 for Baker and 0.0 for Rizzo. If we assumed Baker primarily plays against lefties and LaHair against righties then this would increase it to about 1 WAR for the 1st base.

Cubs claim Adrian Cardenas, designate Blake DeWitt

Yesterday the Cubs claimed Adrian Cardenas off of waivers and to make room for him on the 40-man roster they designated Blake DeWitt for assignment. The Cubs signed DeWitt a couple weeks ago to $1.1 million. The Cubs will owe DeWitt $183,333. He wasn't going to provide much or any value to the Cubs this year or next so there was little reason to retain him. While Cardenas may not be much of an improvement, it's actually more fun talking about what he once was rather than what he is now.

Cardenas was the 37th player taken in the 2006 Draft. The Phillies used their supplemental first round pick to grab the talented player from Monsignor Edward Pace HS (FL). His teammate Chris Marrero was also taken in the 1st round (15th overall). Those were the only two chosen from that high school and both were 1st round selections. Neither has reached the potential they once had.

He started off just fine. He had a wRC+ of 146 in 177 PA after being drafted. He followed that up with a wRC+ of 109 as a 19 year old in A ball. At the age of 20 (2008) he had a 140 wRC+ in nearly 300 PA and was then traded to the A's. The rest of the season it was below 100, but he followed it up at 21 in AA with with a wRC+ of 127. He struggled (80 wRC+) in AAA that season, but was only 21. Back at AA in 2010 he hit as well as he had the year before in AA, but was even worse in AAA that year. Although his 2011 batting line of .314/.374/.418 looks good, it's a .356 wOBA. The league average was .356.

Prior to 2008 he was the 76th ranked prospect and moved up to 74th the following year. He hasn't been seen on the list since.

At the time of the draft, Baseball America had this scouting report for Cardenas:

No player in Florida took a bigger leap forward this spring than Cardenas, a hard-nosed throwback player with good makeup and feel for the game. He's savvy and bright, and he even plays the piano. He made the most of hitting in front of Chris Marrero in his high school lineup by putting together one of the most impressive high school seasons in South Florida in years. He hit safely in 29 of his first 37 at-bats with eight home runs, broke a Dade County record for home runs and was batting .630-17-56. Cardenas has good strength and a short, compact lefthanded swing. He allows balls to get deep in the hitting zone before driving them to all fields. He should hit 10-15 home runs annually in the big leagues with a .275-.295 average. He won't make it there as a shortstop, however, which hinders his value. He's a fringe-average runner, and his lower half has some stiffness. Most scouts believe he profiles at second base fine, though others insist he'll wind up in left field. His hands are average, as is his arm at second base.

After his strong rookie league performance he was ranked 3rd in the Phillies organization and Baseball America wrote this:

Strengths: Cardenas has good strength and a short, compact swing from the left side. He has a knack for squaring up balls, making consistent hard contact and driving the ball to all fields. He profiles to hit 15-20 homers annually in the majors. He's presently a solid-average defender at shortstop, though most scouts believe he'll have to change positions down the road. His intellect is on par with his athleticism, as he graduated in the top 10 percent in his class.

Weaknesses: The Phillies recognize that Cardenas best fits at second base, where he played exclusively during instructional league. He lacks first-step quickness and the range to play short, and his speed and arm strength are fringy.

He was ranked 2nd the following year:

The Future: Cardenas will move to high Class A Clearwater for 2008, but his bat could push him to Double-A by midseason. He has middle-of-the-order potential, though the Phillies already are set at second base with Chase Utley.

After his poor performance following the trade he dropped to 5th, but that was in another organization. He dropped out of the top 10 the following year.

CAIRO projects a .284 wOBA for Cardenas. We could bump that up now that he's moved to the inferior league. Oliver projects a .310 wOBA. CAIRO projected DeWitt to have a .323 wOBA while Oliver projected .303. The Cubs probably got a bit worse in terms of projections, but they added a player with multiple options and 6 years of club control. Several of those would be at league minimum. They got rid of a player who would probably have made about $3 million over the next couple seasons. They added someone who does still have some potential to be a decent big leaguer.

70-win 2012 Cubs

On RLYW, SG ran the code to create his own Marcel projections since Tangotiger has yet to publish them. He then simulated the season and the Cubs finish 5th in the NL Central, 4 games ahead of the Astros. The forecast has the Reds winning the division with 89 wins, which is tied for second in the NL with the Braves. The Phillies are projected to win 90.

The Cubs 70 wins is next to last in the NL. Only the Astros (66) and Twins (68) are expected to be worse than the Cubs. The Orioles are also projected to win 70 games. According to Marcel, the Cubs would have the 3rd or 4th pick in the 2013 MLB Draft. The most interesting division race appears to be in the NL West. The Rockies, Diamondbacks and Giants are all projected to win 85 games. Not too surprisingly the Yankees have an MLB best projected 92 wins followed by the Red Sox and Phillies.

Corpas gone, Wood to 40-man, Josh Vitters

I had forgotten that the Cubs still needed to open a spot on the 40-man roster before they could add Kerry Wood. They did that yesterday when they released Manny Corpas. Corpas was signed in late December and it wasn’t even clear at the time if he was added to the 40-man. A little over a month later he’s gone. Corpas was more than likely nothing more than insurance in case Wood decided to retire or if the Cubs were unable to reach a deal to bring him back. As excited as a lot of Cubs fans are to have Wood return, this isn’t really a big deal. The difference between Corpas and Wood isn’t all that much. It’s not even a win.

2012 is going to be a season that will most likely only be fun if we’re seeing some of the younger talent come up and hopefully succeed. Josh Vitters is one of those guys who is looking to get his shot. Only two of the top ten picks in the 2007 draft have yet to reach the big leagues. Vitters is one of them and the other is a guy the Cubs recently acquired (Casey Weathers). It seems likely both will get at least a taste of the big leagues this season.

Vitters is still young at 22 years old. It’s been said he had one of his best seasons last year, but that’s not true. His wRC+ was 99 and his OBP remains poor. His defense at 3rd is questionable and he’s played some at 1st base. He did hit well in the Arizona Fall League, but it’s Arizona. If you look at his stats, Vitters really hasn’t been that good since the first half of 2010 in High A.

In just under 1700 career plate appearances, Vitters has a batting line of .277/.319/.439. For someone who said would more than likely hit for average, that’s not all that impressive. Without hitting for average Vitters has little chance of maintaining an acceptable OBP. He’s batted 716 times in AAA and has a .264/.313/.427 line. The Southern League average over those two years is .263/.338/.395. Vitters has ore power than the average hitter, but his OBP is considerably lower than average. When you factor in how much more important OBP is than SLG, it doesn’t paint a pretty picture. It’s even uglier when you look at the questionable defense.

But Vitters is just 22. That’s the one thing in his favor in my opinion. I guess the other thing in his favor is that the Cubs don’t really have anyone that’s going to block him at the big league level. If he gets off to a solid start at AAA, which is more than feasible when it’s the PCL, we could see Vitters fairly early in the season. I don’t have high expectations, but I’m looking forward to seeing him. I’m hoping he can learn how to take some pitches before he gets called up.

Cubs Con 2012

I figured I would set this up as a thread to document my experiences at Cubs Convention 2012.  Had to deal with tons of loud obnoxious Cubs fans and huge crowds for a few moments of “oooh, look at that guy” but I did get to meet and talk to Pat Hughes and that was pretty cool.  Here’s the first day’s blog from our site.  Thanks for letting me share.

Updated with some Day 2 stuff.

Updated with our wrap-up.  It was fun but I’m not sure it’s worth full price.

Last update: the opening ceremony.

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So the Marlins are spending money that isn’t actually theirs

Patrick Hruby has an article up on The Postgame that pretty much talks about how the Marlins are spending and likely to get rich off the taxpayers’ dime without any reciprocation.  If I were a Florida taxpayer, I’d be pretty pissed off about this.

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An Interview with Bill James

What the hell do you say about Bill James? No introduction is necessary, but not having one seems lame. It’s Bill James.

Obstructed View: You’ve mentioned in recent years how talking with scouts in Boston has helped you see the game in a way you hadn’t explored before. Has this changed the way you view some of the conclusions you and other sabermetricians reached?

Bill James: It may have, but I’m not aware that it has.   The question sort of implicitly assumes that there’s a conflict between the way I see the game and the way the scouts see the game.    The reality is more that we’re working on the same problems from different angles.  I can only see so much, only understand so much.  Working with people who understand other elements of the game is helpful. 

OV: The Cubs hired Theo and you two worked in the Red Sox organization for a long time. From afar you’ve surely developed some opinions about how the Cubs front office has been run. In what different ways can we expect the Cubs to go about making decisions?

BJ: That’s sort of like you had asked me to review a movie by contrasting it with some other movie that I just dimly remember.

OV: You’ve mentioned in past interviews online and at other times that you’ve been given too much credit for sabermetrics. I believe much of the credit is well deserved, but I also think some other important analysts have been forgotten. Who inspired you and if you had to pick one person not given enough credit, who would it be and why?

BJ: As to who inspired me. . .the econometrics guys from the University of Chicago in the 1950s/1960s.   One person not given enough credit would be Craig Wright, who worked for the Texas Rangers in the 1980s. 

OV: Using your concept of Similarity Scores, Baseball-reference.com has Alfonso Soriano most similar (at the age of 35) to Jermaine Dye, Torii Hunter, Joe Carter, and Jim Edmonds which might suggest he has some value to the current Cubs. How much weight do you put on Similarity Scores and have you found it to be useful in determining future performance?

BJ: Similarity scores are enormously useful and I use them every day.  But I don’t know that I see any similarity between Alfonso Soriano and Jim Edmonds.

OV: One of the first questions directed at Jed Hoyer during his first press conference reflected a popular sentiment here in Chicago: the Cubs need to improve defensively from what they showed in 2011. Given the complexity in gauging defensive talent and its impact on run prevention, how difficult is it for a GM to significantly improve team defense?

BJ: Well. . .it is not harder to improve defense than it is to improve the offense or the pitching.   It’s probably not any easier, but it’s not harder.  We have good and reliable measures of defensive performance.

OV: It seems that a common thought process behind some of the most well-known Saber-minds (yourself, Billy Beane, Theo) is that it is important to not focus so much on what one does know, but what one doesn’t know. What part of the game would you say we know the least about at this point?

BJ: There are many areas of the game that I know nothing at all about, so that would be contrasting one zero with another.    I know nothing about international baseball.  I know nothing or next to nothing about pitch calling (from the catcher’s standpoint).    I know next to nothing about what is called mechanics.    All that stuff about who lines up where on a relay throw; because I didn’t play the game at a high level, I don’t really understand that.    There’s a lot of stuff I don’t understand.

OV: In what areas of research do you see baseball analysts exploring that hasn’t yet been explored?

BJ: College baseball, certainly.    We seem to get hung up on the issue of the quality of the competition, which is really a nothing issue, but people get hung up on it.   It’s a nothing issue in the sense that it’s not REALLY a difficult problem.    But we never seem to get universally accepted or widely understood answers on that issue, so we don’t seem to go anywhere from there. 

OV: Would you tend to agree with the statement that the Cubs (prior to the latest organizational changes) were the most backwards team in regards to how they viewed advanced analytics? How big of a project is it going to be to take the Cubs from where they were to a place where the Red Sox are today? And do you think the Cubs can ever fully catch up, or will they always be behind because of their late start in the process?

BJ: I doubt that the Cubs were as backward as you think in that area.   I know there were at least a couple of guys who worked there who were very progressive, and I suspect more.   I wouldn’t think that’s a real barrier to progress.   The real barriers to making progress are like bad contracts that you have to live with, a shortage of talent flowing out of the minor leagues, a shortage of talent in the development process or the scouting process; those things take time to overcome.   Not having analytical guys around you; you can take care of that in a week.

OV: How has the way you watch and enjoy baseball changed over the years? As it has gone from pastime to profession, what has that done to the way you feel about the game?

BJ: Well, the more you understand the game, the more you can enjoy the game.  

OV: In your annual handbook you do the hitter projections, but you do not have anything to do with the pitcher projections as you believe they cannot be projected. Is this because of similar reasoning as Gary Huckabay used when he said there is no such thing as a pitching prospect? Is a pitcher’s performance that much more unreliable than a hitter? Why do you think that is?

BJ: I used to think that pitching performance was too difficult to even attempt to project, but the pitching projections in the Handbook are about as accurate as the hitting projections.   I think there are some things you can’t do.    Sometimes, if everything lines up right, you can take a hitter out of the minor leagues and say “This is a good minor league hitter; we expect him to hit about .280 with 18 home runs,” and sometimes you’re almost exactly right about those things.   I don’t know that you can ever do that with a pitcher; I don’t know that you can ever take a pitcher out of the minor leagues and project accurately what he’s going to do in the majors in his first year or two.   There are too many variables.  But for established pitchers, the major league projections are as accurate as the hitter’s projections.   I was just a little late to understand that. 

OV: Obviously the Alfonso Soriano deal has been much worse than expected due to various leg injuries removing a major component of his value (speed). How crazy is
it to make a comparison between Soriano and Carl Crawford at the time their contracts were signed? How similar would you say the two players were at the time they entered free agency?

BJ: I can’t really comment on Carl.

OV: I just finished reading Popular Crime and thought it was a great book. First, how do you find the time to read more than a thousand books on crime stories while spending so much time researching and writing about baseball? Second, what crime story would you liked to have included in the book, but were unable to? What makes it a Popular Crime story?

BJ: I would have liked to write about Danny Rollings, but it was just too dark. . ..at the point of the book where the Danny Rollings story would have come the book was on the thin edge of being too gritty, too bloody.   Writing about Danny Rollings at that point would have been like throwing a bucket of blood across the pages at exactly the wrong moment.   (Rollings was the Gainesville Ripper, so called.)   A similar problem was the Sylvia Likens story, which comes from Indianapolis in the mid-1960s; it’s just difficult to deal with a story like that in a way that doesn’t turn your stomach.   I would have liked to write about the murder of Julia Wallace,which is an English case from the early 1930s.   There were a lot of very interesting stories that just did not fit into the book at the place where I would have had to tell the story.    In the 1960s you’re kind of writing about the assassinations and the radicals, and to throw in this pathetic, gross story about a teen-aged girl horribly abused in a basement just doesn’t fit, even though it’s a very interesting story that raises a series of worthwhile issues.

Bill James is the author of countless books on baseball. The Bill James 2012 Handbook was recently released. Earlier this year he branched out and published a non-baseball book, Popular Crime: Reflections on the Celebration of Violence. Two months earlier Solid Fool’s Gold was published. For $3 per month you join Bill James Online. And oh yeah, he’s the owner of two World Series rings and still works for the Boston Red Sox. He also grew up in the great state of Kansas where one of our writers currently lives.

Thank you to Bill James for taking some time to answer our questions here on our obscure corner of the internets.  Truly, this is the best thing to every happen on this blog.

We had hoped that having him answer a few questions about the Cubs and baseball would allow for an unrediscreditation of our blog, but alas, we failed to ask the question for which man has long searched for an answer: Who owns the Cubs?

We didn’t even get any clarification about what might or might not be a misting station.  We should really just stick with posts about writing posts about the proper posting of posts (and, of course, not eating dinner).

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Offseason Roundtable, Part 2: The One Where We Discuss Soriano and Other Free Agent Senior Citizens

As we get closer to the dawning of the Theo Era, we should probably finish off our roundtable discussion before it all becomes irrelevant.  

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berselius : Percentage chance Soriano is in a Cubs uniform on April 1 

AndCounting : 98%

Aisle 424 : 50%

mb21 : 7.87%

berselius : 3.7%

berselius : why so high, Adam?

AndCounting : I just don’t see them dealing him in the offseason. I really don’t. The contract isn’t getting any prettier. And what are the options really for shipping him out? 

berselius : Release 

mb21 : I don’t really know what the options are, but Soriano speaking as if he may not be back with the Cubs made me think he might even retire. 

Aisle 424 : I don’t know if he’d retire, but I think the chances of him staying with the Cubs were a hell of a lot higher before Theo was brought on board. He won’t be as hellbent and determined to wring value out of those sunk dollars.

berselius : Unless this medical dude that Theo is supposedly trying to bring with him has a time machine 

Aisle 424 : (dying laughing)

mb21 : I think release is most likely. Maybe there’s some team out there that would take him if the Cubs sent them $45 million or something. I doubt that. 

berselius : I still think retirement is a pipe dream, but we’ve already had this argument 

berselius : Yeah, no team will want to pay anything for Soriano 

AndCounting : I guess I don’t see release as making that much sense. Can they replace him with someone better from the system if they’re going to pay him anyway? 

Aisle 424 : Long live LaHair!!!

mb21 : By the way, my source has just confirmed to me that the Cubs will not sign both Fielder and Pujols. 

berselius : “and” or “or”? 

AndCounting : Is this a real source or a rumored source? 

mb21 : and. They will not have 2 first basemen next year. 

Aisle 424 : This is why we get the big bucks here at OV, we go out on those precarious limbs.

mb21 : I think they do have guys who can replace his production, AC. 

berselius : Move Byrd to LF and play BJax in CF 

berselius : yeah, easily 

berselius : probably not those who can replace the production they’re paying for though 

mb21 : Who plays RF? I’m still not convinced Tony Campana isn’t more valuable than Soriano. 

berselius : Me neither 

mb21 : It really depends on how bad the Cubs or Theo specifically thinks Soriano is defensively.

Aisle 424 : It is very hard to speculate on the roster when we still don’t really know who will be making the decisions.  I’m just happy it isn’t Hendry.

AndCounting : And on the bench? I mean, even if he rides the pine, I’m not convinced he’s keeping anyone better off the team. 

Aisle 424 : Sadly, he probably isn’t.

berselius : I like the plan that was debated around here a month or so ago. Byrd-Campana-BJax in OF, not-Ramirez at 3b 

berselius : Cubs would probably become one of the best defensive teams in the NL 

Aisle 424 : I’m not sold on Campana’s defense.  Great speed doesn’t automatically make you a good centerfielder. I don’t like his routes to balls and his arm would be laughable if not for having witnessed Juan Pierre and Lance Johnson out there.

mb21 : Soriano sucks at getting on base, but still has some power. He’s a good platoon player at this point.

mb21 : You’re probably right about him on the bench, AC, but Soriano might make life hell if he were on the bench. 

berselius : Another question: do the Cubs make an offseason splash with Theo, or will the “splash” be a liquidation? 

berselius : I remember reports a few weeks back about the Cubs not being interested in Fielder, and wanting to target SP. But whatever Randy Bush (or whoever the source was) thought is pretty much meaningless.

mb21 : I don’t think there’s a chance in hell this team has a fire sale. I don’t think the Cubs have the guys to make it worthwhile. 

Aisle 424 : They missed their shot at getting value for some of the players they still have like Dempster and Byrd.  Even Soto doesn’t have a ton of value anymore.

berselius : I think he’s going to put some sort of mark on the team this offseason though 

AndCounting : I’d believe that stat, but I think most people believe the splash will have an aftershock. 

AndCounting : I wouldn’t be surprised if they did get Pujols. Or Fielder. At this point I really have no clue. 

berselius : Well, not a full on firesale 

mb21 : Yeah, AC, in order to keep the confidence up something else has to happen. If they sign some big name free agent, I’m going with Fielder. 

Aisle 424 : They lowered their ticket prices a bit this season, so I’m guessing a big leap in payroll isn’t happening.

mb21 : Actually, I’m just going to go with Fielder. I think he’ll be a Cub next year. 

Aisle 424 : I won’t go that far, but he’s the one I’d prefer if they are definitely going to sign one or the other.

berselius : If Theo goes after any FA it’s probably Fielder. CC would be a close second but I think the Yankees renegotiate with him before he hits the market 

AndCounting : I would love that. Honestly, I’ve always thought he was a pretty entertaining player. 

berselius : Sucks for CC and Fielder that the Yanks/Sox have Teix and Gonzalez 

mb21 : I also expect the Yankees to announce an extension with CC during the World Series like they did with ARod. They enjoy pissing Selig off. 

AndCounting : Is adding CC and Fielder a possibility? If the Cubs thought the clubhouse was cramped before . . . 

Aisle 424 : I can’t imagine how they could swing that.

berselius : I’ve always been a big Prince Fielder fan, so I’d love to see him around. Not for anything more than 5 years

berselius : That pretty much goes for any player, but esp Fielder 

mb21 : the Cubs food budget would double with those two on the same team. 

mb21 : The thing I’ve always worried about Fielder for is his defense and his weight. Factor in his position, which are already filled with guys don’t age well and you potentially have a problem. 

Aisle 424 : I don’t think either signing is ideal. If they were a guy that could put them over the top, fine. But they aren’t. I’d rather use the dollars to land Wilson and maybe some other stop-gap pitching that can get us through the next couple of years without it being embarassing.

berselius : I think both of those guys stay in the NLC. I’d be shocked if Pujols leaves STL. The only way I see it happening is if LAAOA throw stupid money at him 

mb21 : It would be pretty cool if Fielder signed with the Cubs and the Brewers signed Pujols. 

Aisle 424 : If the Brewers could afford Albert, they’d probably just pay Fielder.

berselius : His defense doesn’t bother me that much. It sucks, but it’s just a number. I feel pretty confident in his ability to have hitting make up for it. 

berselius : Would not be cool for Brewers fans 

berselius : As I always try to mention, don’t forget Fielder’s age 

AndCounting : I know Ricketts has said he’s looking to build on the farm system and move away from ridiculous free agent contracts, but it would be nice for the team to not completely suck again. Revenue could go through the roof if they signed two big free agents. 

Aisle 424 : But not right away.  They still sold something like 90% of the ballpark with no expecatations and no hope.  Plus they lowered ticket prices this year.  Any upswing in revenue this year would be marginal.  It would be 2013 before they start seeing any real bump and that is assuming a couple of high-priced band-aids actually equal enough wins to get them into contention again.

berselius : whoops, misread your comment, that would be really awesome. 

mb21 : Age is important, but so is athleticism. I’m not sure that Pujols is much older than Fielder physically. It’s probably pretty close. 

AndCounting : What is Fielder’s age? I forgot. 

berselius : I think he’s 27 

berselius : He came up at 21 

mb21 : I do expect the Cubs to try to contend next year. I don’t think they sign 2 big free agents, but I could see Fielder and a trade. 

Aisle 424 : That would certainly explain not wanting to pillage their system just to land Theo.

berselius : Aren’t there still questions with respect to Pujols’ age? 

Aisle 424 : I believe his grandchildren have already addressed that, B.

berselius : There’s a chance that all three marquee 1b in the division are gone next year. 

berselius : I think it’s pretty small at this point. 

AndCounting : He’s always looked old. But never that old. He’s Jim Thome-esque. 

berselius : Heh, Thome still looks like a big kid 

mb21 : Thome looks like he played in the 1930s. 

Aisle 424 : He didn’t?

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More Shameless Self Promotion

My dad’s book came out this week on Amazon and Kindle (link below). He and his co-author made a brief appearance in the film “Catching Hell” – they’re the two self-appointed Commissioners of the Bartman Play. The book is an adaptation of their Commission Report and basically analyzes the play from a rules perspective. It is their contention that the umpires blew the call, that it should have been ruled fan interference, and Bartman should be forgiven. It’s fairly entertaining and pretty interesting, so check it out, won’t ya?

http://www.amazon.com/Mad-Ball-Walter-J-Yurkanin/dp/0983812837/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317912778&sr=8-1

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On Theo

The following comment by Smokestack Lightning was such a good one that it deserves to be highlighted on the front page.

Quoting dylanj:

Friedman is my first choice simply because I think what he is doing is harder than what Theo did. Go write him a very very large check.

I have mad respect for Friedman too but to disregard “what Theo did” as not as impressive as Friedman is not, in my opinion, taking a hard look at what he’s built and how he’s done it.

The Red Sox minor league system has been a veritable gold mine for awhile now, and of the current productive core in place, only Adrian Gonzalez and Beckett didn’t come up through the system (and they were purchased with the system). That leaves Pedroia, Youkilis, Ellsbury, Lester, Papelbon, Bard, Buchholz. That’s a pretty goddamned good yield, and without the benefit of an endless stream of number one picks either.

As far as free agent signings go…yeah Theo’s hit and missed. But that’s every GM with dollars to spend. And to be fair here, most of the moves Theo made were lauded at the time (and many of them worked out too), including the current millstone being hung around his neck, John Lackey, who was a 4 WAR pitcher before he signed with Boston, was paid like a 4 WAR pitcher, and, in his first year, produced a 4 WAR season. That he cracked up this year and pitched like utter dogshit (as bad as he was, he still put up 1.5 WAR) wasn’t something anybody thought would happen as fast as it did. But hey, shit happens.

And as mb astutely pointed out, who is to say Friedman would fare any better with a bigger payroll? It’s not a guarantee that he would just because he’s done so well with a small one (this is the guy who, with pocket change to spend on the free agent market, thought Pat Burrell and the remains of Manny Ramirez would be good ideas, so it’s not just a string of number one hits here). Additionally, there are other unknowns with Friedman, including the ability to handle the pressure of a big market, and especially one like Chicago. Not one of the seven fans who go to Tampa games could pick Friedman out of a lineup even if he was wearing a big sign that said “hey you assholes, I’m Andrew Fucking Friedman” while in Boston, those crazy motherfuckers can pick Theo out of a crowd while wearing a gorilla suit on Halloween. There’s no such thing as “media pressure” in St. Petersburg. Do they even have a fucking newspaper outside of the Del Boca Vista Breeze?

Whereas Theo’s thrived in one of the most stressful sports environments there is, with a lynch mob for a fan base and an ownership group and team president who, to put it mildly, like to meddle. This is not to take anything away from Friedman, an excellent GM who has found quite a bit of success the past few years in spite of his own set of difficult circumstances (and if he ends up being the guy, count me on board), but Theo’s a fucking rock star, the PR home run, the guy you go after first.

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