Ballhawks can take 2012 off

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One thing I've noticed while looking over the projections the past couple months is just how little power the Cubs have. Their starting lineup is practically filled with singles hitters. Alfonso Soriano still has some pop and so does Geovany Soto, but the rest of the lineup has none. I was wondering when the last time the Cubs starting lineup was projected to hit as few home runs as these starting 8 are.

I needed to figure out how many home runs the starting 8 were projected to hit. I used these players: Darwin Barney, Marlon Byrd, Starlin Castro, David DeJesus, Bryan LaHair, Alfonso Soriano, Geovany Soto, and Ian Stewart. CAIRO projects a whopping 92 home runs from these guys. Leading the way is Soriano with 18 followed by LaHair and Soto with 14 each. This 92 projection isn't out of line with other projections either.

Guru projects 72 and ZiPS 85. On the other end is PECOTA at 103 and Oliver at 109. The average of these 5 is 92. That's the number we're interested in and now we have to see when the last time the Cubs starting 8 hit so few home runs.

  • 2011: 121
  • 2010: 111
  • 2009: 120
  • 2008: 150
  • 2007: 117
  • 2006: 117
  • 2005: 156
  • 2004: 200
  • 2003: 137
  • 2002: 161
  • 2001: 143
  • 2000: 127
  • 1999: 141
  • 1998: 157
  • 1997: 94
  • 1996: 135
  • 1995: 109
  • 1994: 84

I thought I'd look back through 1991 so we had 20 years and as I started looking at 1993 I realized that 1994 and 1995 were strike-shortened years. So while they did only hit 84 home runs in 1994, they did so in 113 games. If you prorate that over 162 games it's 120 home runs (1995, prorated 124). That 1994 team had more power than we're going to see in 2012. Onto the next few years.

  • 1993: 112
  • 1992: 68

It was 20 seasons ago when the Cubs starting 8 hit fewer home runs than the 2012 starting 8 is projected to 8. Here's a look at that starting 8.

Sammy Sosa hit 8 home runs for the cubs that year in 67 games. It was his first year with the team. Even that team had a couple players in Sandberg and Dawson who hit more than 20 home runs. No Cubs player according to CAIRO is projected to hit that many.

I sure hope The Cubs Way isn't a return to these types of teams. In year 1 of new management it certainly is. Hopefully future years won't be. I didn't enjoy most of the Cubs team in the 90s and probably wouldn't enjoy them again.

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  1. Rodrigo Ramirez

    In 1997, one of the worst Cubs years I can remember, they hit 94 home runs. If that is the type of season the Cubs will have, all I can say is ruh-roh.

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  2. josh

    It’s crazy to me that Sammy started when Ryne Sandburg and Andre Dawson were still on the team. They seem like they had least 10 years in between them.

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  3. Rice Cube

    While home runs may be scarce, I’m hoping for lots of bloops, flares, and doubles/triples in the gap. They may not get out of the park, but at least get it to where they ain’t.

    /prays to BABIP, god of bloops

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  4. WaLi

    @ Rice Cube:

    Obviously, we know there’s going to be more bad than good

    He actually does know what’s going on!

    Isn’t this different than what Theo is saying? Isn’t Theo still saying this team is WS bound?

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  5. Suburban kid

    I guess on reflection I don’t think iPads should be allowed in the dugout due to being able to watch the game as it’s happening. Are phones allowed in?

    Also, I won’t apologize for finding the Olive Garden review amusing. Marilyn’s old, and in a small market, but that doesn’t mean standards should be relaxed. Mostly I enjoyed it because of what commentators noticed was an approach from a completely different cultural context than most of us are used to. This aspect made it very pleasant. It reminded me of the Iowa City Press-Citizen’s (where I briefly worked) food columnist from awhile back.

    Finally, I’ll be bowing out of the fantasy baseball league. I learned that I barely can manage one league, and I’ve been in the other one 10 years now so I’ll stick with that one.

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  6. EnricoPallazzo

    regarding that bob brenly quote from the HBT article that someone linked to on a prior post:

    does brenly ever use concrete evidence to pinpoint why he hates ramirez and thinks he’s lazy? i rarely listen to the audio on TV broadcasts so i am curious if he ever brought up hard numbers, or if he is just a total blowhard.

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  7. Berselius

    @ EnricoPallazzo:

    I don’t think I’ve ever heard Brenly allude to something specific, but generally that laziness rep comes from running to first. Given Ramirez’s 5000 hamstring/quad/etc tweaks a year the coaching staff has told him to take it easy from time to time, that doesn’t stop people like Brenly from ripping him for it.

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  8. Mercurial Outfielder

    @ EnricoPallazzo:

    In order for Brenly to use concrete numbers to back up his claims, those numbers would have to exist. Which they don’t. Which is why Bob Brenly never cites numbers.

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  9. Rice Cube

    @ Berselius:
    It might not have been free. But the dialog window said they couldn’t verify my location and suggested a blackout, then took me to the pay screen. Usually when a broadcast is free it just loads right up.

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  10. Suburban kid

    Yeah, Brenly’s critique is solely about effort. When asked about numbers the other day, he admitted Ramirez had very good numbers, but said that his issue is that he could have had great numbers if he tried.

    Hustle, grit, lazy Latins, etc. etc. nothing to see here.

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  11. mb21

    @ Suburban kid:
    I would assume phones aren’t allowed, but I don’t know. I’m sure we’d have seen some idiot talking on his phone in the dugout if they were.

    Regarding the Oliver Garden thing, I’m not saying you should feel bad or apologize because you found it funny. It was funny. I feel bad that she and an entire community, if not an entire region, has been made fun of. People in other parts of the country may be more cultural than those in the Midwest, but compared to the average European they’re nothing more than a redneck hick who goes to Wal-Mart. By most, I mean 99.9% of the population in this country. We are the least cultured people among the wealthier nations.

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  12. Suburban kid

    @ Berselius:
    You can’t listen to the Cubs games using WGN AM’s own stream. That stream switches to reruns or a perpetual bad music loop when the games are on.

    You can buy the MLB audio package and listen to them even if you’re in-market, though.

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  13. Rice Cube

    @ mb21:
    He was sick for like a week with the flu and had shoulder issues so they’re trying to keep an extra careful eye on him. Muskat said his pitch limit today was 35.

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  14. Suburban kid

    @ Berselius:
    I’m sure he messed up his mechanics sowing seeds and harvesting shit all winter.

    Probably roping steer, too.

    That would fuck up anyone’s mechanics.

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  15. Suburban kid

    Is it just me, or does it seem strange that every year in ST at least a couple guys go down with the flu?

    I guess I associate flu with cold weather, not 90 degrees and 90% humidity.

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  16. josh

    @ Suburban kid:
    The flu is actually associated with cold weather because people tend to be inside more, in closer proximity. Hence, ST flu. The temperature itself doesn’t have anything to do with the flu.

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  17. mb21

    @ josh:
    It’s possible, but I wouldn’t bet on it. Scouting reports have long had him as peaking at about 15 per season, which is pretty damn good for a SS.

    Speaking of this, I think the Cubs are horribly misusing Castro when it comes to the lineup. He’s not a power hitter. He’s going to drive runs in if you put him in the middle of the order because he’ll bat .300+. On this team it doesn’t much matter since the team has no power, but on a typical team he really has no business hitting in the middle of the order in my opinion. Perhaps vs lefties, but not righties. He probably shouldn’t be hitting higher than 6th or 7th vs righties in a typical lineup (2012 Cubs lineup is not so typical). He has a 131 wRC+ vs lefties, but 94 vs righties.

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