OSS: Cyle takes care of business, the Cardinals defense not so much.
Three up:
- Kyle Hendricks threw eight innings, striking out just two but mostly limiting the damage by the Cards offense. Most importantly, he limited the Cubs bullpen from making an appearance, as all of the semi-reliable guys left on the roster had pitched in the past few games. Hendricks finishes the year with 199 IP, the highest of his career, and with a 3.2 fWAR. This is a tick above his ZIPS projection, mostly due to the extra innings, and leads the Cubs pitching staff. On the one hand that’s kind of disappointing, but aside from a few outliers, the NL itself had kind top-heavy year – that 3.2 fWAR is still good enough for 12th in the NL, even if it doesn’t come close to the likes of deGrom and Scherzer.
- Kris Bryant hit one to to the roof of the batters’ eye in his first start back from being hit on the wrist earlier this week, which is a very encouraging sign.
- I just had the radio for this one, but they had plenty of praise for David Bote’s glove at 3B in this one. He also drew a bases loaded walk in the eighth as the Cubs piled on.
Three down:
- The Cardinals sloppy defense was a big help in this one, but the Cubs were also charged with three errors. Luckily two of them were in the ninth when the game was already well in hand.
- Javy had a rought day, going 0-4 with three strikeouts.
- The Brewers won, coming back multiple times against the Tigers to win 6-5. It looks like Yelich has the NL MVP locked up after this week. The Magic number is down to 2, so the Cubs could clinch in either of these games this weekend with a little help from Detroit. But the Beers certainly aren’t going away. Given the Cubs schedule the past few weeks a tiebreaker might be even worse than losing the division outright.
Next up: The Cubs will have their hands full today against Miles Mikolas, who takes on Cole Hamels in a early 12:05 start.
Comments
Baseball needs to just copy what the NBA does for the playoffs as far as tiebreakers and seeding teams goes. It’s kind of ridiculous that the teams with the two best records in the NL who are already in the playoffs could potentially play a game 163. It’s stupid.
here’s my suggested tiebreaker: Pythagorean record. It rewards the team who was the best in terms of runs scored and runs allowed. Take the decimal out as far as you have to break the tie.
dmick89Quote Reply
dmick89,
In season record between the two teams is a pretty easy one too, or in-division record.
Berselius is too lazy to loginQuote Reply
No war bear in the lineup today – hope his back isn’t acting up.
Berselius is too lazy to loginQuote Reply
Len’s suit fits terribly, but I’m glad he’s in the booth.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Runs, please.
dmick89Quote Reply
Pat Hughes informs listeners Michalas is mustachioed.
That’s why I’m using the radio overlay feed.
SKQuote Reply
Also: Smoltz.
SKQuote Reply
(dying laughing)
dmick89Quote Reply
Cardinals defense!
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Cardin(dying laughing)s
Berselius is too lazy to loginQuote Reply
Come on, Heyward.
dmick89Quote Reply
SK,
You’re missing the trenchant analysis that Mikolas is a pitcher and that the Cardinals need to score runs.
Berselius is too lazy to loginQuote Reply
Long inning, but Cole limited the damage.
dmick89Quote Reply
The Lineout Double Play Game.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
No-out walks with runners on first suck.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Mikolas should have been swinging away this entire PA. Thanks though.
dmick89Quote Reply
Fuck
dmick89Quote Reply
Runs, please
dmick89Quote Reply
The Cubs have barely hit the ball out of the infield today.
dmick89Quote Reply
Cubs lose.
andcountingQuote Reply
I’m not exactly sure how Smotlz feels about analytics, he needs to talk about this for the next 4 innings to get that message across
Berselius is too lazy to loginQuote Reply
Come on, Anthony.
dmick89Quote Reply
Stupid wind.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Stupid wind. Rizzo got a hold of that one.
PerkinsQuote Reply
andcounting,
I was waiting to see how this half inning went, but yeah, probably.
dmick89Quote Reply
Tied going into tomorrow, how do you play it? I’d be tempted to rest all the regulars since the Cubs have gotten screwed with having so few days off over the last 6-7 weeks.
dmick89Quote Reply
dmick89,
I probably would just play all the regulars, but that’s going to suck if the Cubs end up tied at the end of the season.
dmick89Quote Reply
dmick89,
I’d still play every game like it’s game 7 of the World Series. Every win carries potential rest with it, which will be like gold.
andcountingQuote Reply
andcounting,
Good point.
dmick89Quote Reply
Imagine if the Cubs had not gone 8–1 against the Brewers at the beginning of the season.
ceruleanQuote Reply
Sigh.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Fucking stupid wind.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Score some runs!
dmick89Quote Reply
Runs, please.
SKQuote Reply
YEAH! What he :
Score some runs!
said!
SKQuote Reply
ah fuck it
SKQuote Reply
So many warning track shots.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
At least this was a quick loss.
dmick89Quote Reply
Don’t score any runs.
dmick89Quote Reply
dmick89,
Trying something different.
dmick89Quote Reply
Horrible game.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Welp, the Cubs had a two year dynasty in the NL central. It was fun.
dmick89Quote Reply
welp
ceruleanQuote Reply
Go Tigers. Don’t fuck it up like yesterday.
PerkinsQuote Reply
A lot of hard-hit balls that became outs/double plays. A unlucky loss, in my opinion.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Perkins,
Isn’t Daniel Norris pitching? They’d probably have a better chance if Candelario took the mound.
dmick89Quote Reply
Cardinals playoff hopes——–> dashed
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Keep it rolling, Tigers
Berselius is too lazy to loginQuote Reply
Well at least they knocked out Miley.
Berselius is too lazy to loginQuote Reply
Rizzo the Rat,
Too bad. I’d much rather the Cubs play them in the wild card game.
dmick89Quote Reply
Gah
Berselius is too lazy to loginQuote Reply
Second night in a row the Tigers blew a 3-0 lead and the Brewers then blew a 5-3 lead.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
And then…
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Dammit Yelich
Berselius is too lazy to loginQuote Reply
Stupid Tigers.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Two of the NL races will be decided on or after the final day of the season.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Perkins,
It’s kind of cool that all the start times are pretty close to the same. Shit’s gonna get real after 5:00 tomorrow.
andcountingQuote Reply
Assuming the Cubs and Brewers are still tied at the end of the day, Quintana is in line to start the tiebreaker tomorrow. Given the way he’s dominated the Brewers, I don’t hate that.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Perkins,
I’m about 80% certain the Brewers will win today and 80% certain the Cubs will lose. I think there’s a chance there’s a game tomorrow, but it’s much more likely the Cubs get the day off and play on Tuesday.
dmick89Quote Reply
dmick89,
If that happens, I’d probably tandem Lester and Q on Tuesday and start the NLDS with Hendricks in game 1 and Hamels in game 2.
PerkinsQuote Reply
I know that Joe didn’t use the 6-man rotation thing for more than a couple turns through the rotation, but it looks even dumber now that they’re tied with a game left. I also can’t believe how long Joe stuck with Chatwood, but I also still can’t believe the Cubs gave Chatwood anything more than a 1 year, $4-5 million contract to be their long man in the bullpen.
dmick89Quote Reply
dmick89,
In retrospect, all those starts from Chatwood are probably the most indefensible thing this season. A bunch of stuff went wrong from the injury side, but giving innings to a guy walking a batter per inning was an unforced error.
PerkinsQuote Reply
I also remember Brett’s repeatedly advocating a six man rotation over the summer, so I guess running a huge and profitable baseball site and providing good analysis are pretty different skillsets.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Perkins,
I don’t know. It looks obvious, but part of the secret to that job of acquiring talent is spotting hidden potential. They had a theory and followed it. It failed. But they have to allow themselves to make mistakes, and I don’t mind them sticking with him long enough to know it wasn’t a small-sample fluke. And honestly, I’m not sure it wasn’t. He posted outlier-level career worsts in walks, walks/9, WHIP, SO/walk ratio, yet his SO/9 rate was better than ever (slightly). It’s hard to believe they shouldn’t have expected any of that to return to the mean. You know? Isn’t that the intellectual thing to trust even when the seemingly obvious gut reaction is to conclude he just plain sucks?
andcountingQuote Reply
I’ll just say that the Cubs probably projected to be a a 94-95-win team entering the season. They’ve lost a significant amount of productivity due to injuries to Bryant and Darvish, but they’ll still end up in that range. No matter how this season ends, I don’t think anyone can say this team has under-performed, given their roster.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
andcounting,
And just to be clear, Chatwood’s stats are waaaaaaay worse than they’ve ever been. He almost doubled his career walk rate. The signing was stupid, as it turns out, but his collapse could not have been foreseen, I don’t think.
andcountingQuote Reply
Rizzo the Rat,
Agreed. I kind of can’t believe they have as many wins as they do.
andcountingQuote Reply
All I know is this shit is a lot more fun than when they just plain suck ass and we’re choosing which team we least want to see lose while the Cubs golf.
andcountingQuote Reply
I complain a lot about this team, but I completely agree with this. We can’t control how good our competition is and Milwaukee is just really good. It sucks, but that’s how it is.
dmick89Quote Reply
dmick89,
I consistently have trouble accepting that the Brewers are as good as they are with their rotation.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Today would be really great if:
-Cubs win
-Brewers lose
-Dodgers and Rockies both win or both lose
PerkinsQuote Reply
I also imagine executives at MLB and broadcasting companies will be infuriated if the Wild Card game ends up being CHC-LAD, since the other three markets in the NL are pretty small.
PerkinsQuote Reply
The exact same thing could be said of the Cubs. I think it’s that their offense is good enough to make up for it. Same with the Brewers.
dmick89Quote Reply
Perkins,
I’m on board with that. Especially the first two. The last one would be fun, but I don’t really care all that much about it to be honest.
dmick89Quote Reply
If the Cubs end up getting the wild card then I definitely hope the Dodgers and Rockies tie so they have to play tomorrow.
dmick89Quote Reply
To-day’s base ball squadron
2B Murphy
RF Zobrist
SS Baez
1B Rizzo
3B Bryant
CF Heyward
LF War Bear
C Contreras
P Montgomery
Berselius is on an airplaneQuote Reply
Berselius is on an airplane,
This is the “we actually want to win” lineup.
andcountingQuote Reply
Win, please.
dmick89Quote Reply
I’m surprised the Cardinals ran this lineup out there.
dmick89Quote Reply
Would have been nice if the wind was like it is today all weekend.
dmick89Quote Reply
Cubs lose.
dmick89Quote Reply
Cubs lose
SKQuote Reply
I take it all back. This team blows.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
F
BVSQuote Reply
Too bad they don’t have the “we actually want to win” pitching or defense.
dmick89Quote Reply
At least they won’t have to play the playoff.
andcountingQuote Reply
No chance they score 2 today.
dmick89Quote Reply
Just let Monty, Mills, and Maples finish the game. Sub in Gore and company. (dying laughing)
andcountingQuote Reply
MIL 2-0 DET
SKQuote Reply
I think Javy is tired. He has had pretty smart, patient at bats, but he just hasn’t hit the ball hard very much at all.
andcountingQuote Reply
Jesus, Javy.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Shitty baseball in a really big game.
dmick89Quote Reply
MLB needs to do whatever it takes to ensure that teams have off days available even when they need to make games up.
dmick89Quote Reply
I’ve been hesitant to get behind signing Harper this offseason because of the money, but they need a hitter better than Baez.
dmick89Quote Reply
Jesus. That ball needs to be caught.
dmick89Quote Reply
I assume the regulars are coming out now that Webster is in.
dmick89Quote Reply
dmick89,
I think Machado makes as much or more sense than Harper. Generally more consistent and can take over SS for Russell.
BVSQuote Reply
dmick89,
Well, not waiting til end of year to make up games would help too.
BVSQuote Reply
Yelich struck out!!!!
andcountingQuote Reply
BVS,
Yeah, but I think there needs to be more time between the end of the season and the playoffs. It would accomplish two things: provide 5-7 days in which teams can make up a game or two so that they aren’t playing in 40 of 41 days and it would give players a little extra time to get rested and healthy.
dmick89Quote Reply
The Cubs luck has really fucking sucked lately. MLB needs to change that too.
andcountingQuote Reply
The Cubs’ luck is still better than Caratini.
andcountingQuote Reply
This offense has been pathetic for so long I don’t remember what a good offense looks like.
dmick89Quote Reply
andcounting,
(dying laughing)
dmick89Quote Reply
That Contreras lineout had a hit probability of 84%.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Murphy! Zobrist!
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Zobrist!!!
andcountingQuote Reply
Zobrist!
dmick89Quote Reply
Throw him a curveball, dammit.
andcountingQuote Reply
CARDINALS!!!!
andcountingQuote Reply
Flaherty!!!
dmick89Quote Reply
woo
SKQuote Reply
Come on, Rizzo.
dmick89Quote Reply
Rizzo!!!!!!!
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
RIZZZZZZ
andcountingQuote Reply
FUCK YEAH!!!!
dmick89Quote Reply
aw yeah
SKQuote Reply
This is the best team in the history of baseball.
andcountingQuote Reply
Heyward!!!
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Heyward!!!!
andcountingQuote Reply
Heyward!!!!!
dmick89Quote Reply
Come on, Schwarber.
dmick89Quote Reply
Mills?
dmick89Quote Reply
The immediate road ahead may be rocky but hopefully at least interesting. Stay tuned my friends.
EnricoPallazzoQuote Reply
EnricoPallazzo,
Yeah, echoing &C earlier, it’s way better this way than wondering if the Padres will lose yet again and deny us a higher draft pick.
BVSQuote Reply
Willson looking good for the first time in a long time.
dmick89Quote Reply
Relief pitcher hitting alert.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
(dying laughing) Mills bunt
BVSQuote Reply
dmick89,
Remember that time he had like 8 xbh in 3 games?
BVSQuote Reply
BVS,
Ranking of things that are best on September 30:
1. Not caring about baseball because your team locked up the division in early september
2. Tight race
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8 billion. Not caring about baseball because your team has been out of it since memorial day (possibly having something to do with neifi perez and/or shawn estes)
EnricoPallazzoQuote Reply
NL West going to game 163
BVSQuote Reply
BVSQuote Reply
Rizzo again!
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Time to screw the whole bullpen.
dmick89Quote Reply
Bryant!!!!
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
KFB!!!!
andcountingQuote Reply
KRIS BRYANT!!!!
dmick89Quote Reply
I don’t love pinch-hitting Almora for Schwarber.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Willson!!!!!!!!
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Willson!!!
dmick89Quote Reply
Willlllllllllllllllson!!!
andcountingQuote Reply
OH MY
SKQuote Reply
Crap. Willson can’t buy a home run.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Willson!!!
PerkinsQuote Reply
Just call it a double and let’s move on.
dmick89Quote Reply
Never mind, it hit the board.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Alec Mills is both pitching and hitting in a crucial Cubs game, just like we all predicted before the season started.
North Side PatQuote Reply
Looking like there will be two game 163s.
PerkinsQuote Reply
I hope Edwards has his shit together.
dmick89Quote Reply
Jesus, CJ.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
I hope someone else is ready in the bullpen. Edwards is useless right now.
dmick89Quote Reply
Thank you.
dmick89Quote Reply
I remember when Edwards was good.
dmick89Quote Reply
It’s a fierce competition, but it looks like no one wants CJ on the mound less than CJ does.
andcountingQuote Reply
That completely unnecessary Strop injury sucks even more with how bad Edwards has been.
dmick89Quote Reply
Where was that?
dmick89Quote Reply
How many lefties do the Cardinals have in their pen?
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Probably a good thing that the plane wifi was down during my flight.
Berselius is on an airplaneQuote Reply
I’m on a flight to germany and the in-flight wifi is terrible at best. Mlb app won’t load and mlb.com takes several attempts. Are both the cubs and brewers dominating?
EnricoPallazzoQuote Reply
A beat writer just told a meatball fan to delete his account: yep, it’s September 30th.
SKQuote Reply
Cardinals defense!!!
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Cardinals defense!
dmick89Quote Reply
EnricoPallazzo,
Yup. Brewers more so.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
EnricoPallazzo,
close enough
SKQuote Reply
EnricoPallazzo,
Fell behind early, tied it in the 3rd and took the lead the next inning (I think). Been rolling since.
dmick89Quote Reply
Almora!
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Almora!
dmick89Quote Reply
Too bad the wind was blowing in yesterday.
PerkinsQuote Reply
SKQuote Reply
Nice play by Almora.
dmick89Quote Reply
Who starts for the Beers tomorrow?
Berselius is on an airplaneQuote Reply
This fucking bullpen.
dmick89Quote Reply
Jesus fucking christ
dmick89Quote Reply
Just bring in La Stella. Fuck it.
dmick89Quote Reply
Cishek seems to do a lot better when he comes in to start an inning.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Berselius is on an airplane,
Chacin, I think
GWQuote Reply
GW,
My always reliable memory seems to think the Cubs won a Q-Chacin matchup a week or two ago.
Berselius is on an airplaneQuote Reply
Berselius is on an airplane,
Clearly this means they will never lose to Chacin again.
Berselius is on an airplaneQuote Reply
Q has been pretty good against the Brewers. Let’s hope that continues.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Berselius is on an airplane,
Can’t really ask for a better matchup. He’s pretty much the same pitcher he’s always been, just luckier this year.
/knocks on wood
GWQuote Reply
Stupid Cardinals. I really had not expected the Brewers to win out over the final week.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Nice play by Zobrist.
dmick89Quote Reply
The Cubs might be done with this game by tomorrow morning.
dmick89Quote Reply
Thought it was gone. (dying laughing)
dmick89Quote Reply
Two teams that are guaranteed to make the playoffs are forced to play a tiebreaker game because the MLB has never heard of run differential.
JKVQuote Reply
The four potential tiebreaker teams went 4-0 today with a combined score of 48-5.
GWQuote Reply
This is pretty fun. Cubs and Brewers in a winner-take-half tiebreaker. It’s also pretty funny that after 162 games we know precisely 1 of the 5 NL playoff slots.
andcountingQuote Reply
Perkins,
I think the penalty for the Cardinals shitting the bed the final week is appropriate.
Although, it’s possible MLB will now give them another competitive balance pick, because clearly they don’t have the resources to compete for a full season.
Smokestack LightningQuote Reply
Smokestack Lightning,
Whatever else happens, it’s satisfying to know that the Cubs have ended the Cardinals season two years in a row. And that they’ve missed the playoffs three years in a row.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Perkins,
And, it can’t go without saying in the “whatever else happens” category:
For a team for which it feels like very little has gone right this year, for a team I’ve rarely felt good about, they’ve certainly won a lot of games.
Maybe they can win 12 more.
Smokestack LightningQuote Reply
Smokestack Lightning,
Yeah, it’s really surprising when I look at the standings. 95 wins is impressive, but it’s kind of crazy that this team won 95 despite several key things not working out for them.
dmick89Quote Reply
Smokestack Lightning,
I hope they only need 12 more, and not 13.
PerkinsQuote Reply
dmick89,
No kidding. Outside of Javy having a breakout season, I’m struggling to be all that impressed about anything else.
And yet here we are. 95 wins. A pretty damn good run differential. How the hell did they do it?
Smokestack LightningQuote Reply
http://www.obstructedview.net/game-163-preview-brewers-at-cubs/
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