Since the MLB Draft begins tonight, I figured it was a good time to look back through who the Cubs had drafted over the years and what they accomplished. (click the link to read more)
1991 – Doug Glanville
Glanville was never much of a hitter in the minor leagues. The Cubs used the 11th overall pick to select Glanville. He hit just .273/.316/.365 in his career in the minors. In 1996, Glanville now 25 years old, he got off to a fast start for the Iowa Cubs as he was hitting .308/.331/.410 through 90 games. He made his big league debut that season and wouldn’t see the minors except for some rehab appearances later in his career. Glanville’s first full season was the following year and it was his last for the Cubs until the end of the 2003 season. He hit .300/.333/.392. He played most of his career in Philadelphia and had a short stint with the Rangers in 2003 and finished his career with the Phillies in 2004. He hit .277/.315/.380 in his big league career.
1992 – Derek Wallace
The right-handed pitcher was the 11th overall pick and would pitch only a few MLB innings in his career. The only minor league season in the Cubs organization for him with an ERA below 4.8 was all of 4.1 innings he threw in 1994. He was then traded to the Royals and traded to the Mets the following season. He reached the big leagues in 1996. He threw only 24.2 innings and wouldn’t see MLB action again until 1999. His minor league career wasn’t too special as he posted only a 4.37 ERA and was done with baseball after the 1999 season.
1993 – Brooks Kieschnick, Jon Ratliff, Kevin Orie
The power hitting outfielder Kieschick was the 10th overall pick. Kieschnick is most famous for converting to a pitcher with the Brewers in 2003 and being an extremely valuable pinch hitter for them. His batting career didn’t amount to much, but he had a very strong arm. He had one good seaosn on the mound. That was in 2004 and he called it a career after spending the 2005 season in th eminor leagues. He had a ton of power in the minors. He hit 164 minor league home runs. He was rated in the top 50 by Baseball America in 1994 and 1995 and in the top 100 in 1995.
The Cubs let one great right handed pitcher in Greg Maddux go to the Braves and received just two compensation picks in return. One of them was the Braves first round pick and the Cubs used it to select Jon Ratliff 24th overall. In his first full minor league season Ratliff allowed more than 180 hits in 140 innings. Greg Maddux he wasn’t. Ratliff made one MLB appearance and that was with the A’s in 2000. He pitched a 1-2-3 inning.
The Cubs used their supplemental pick in return for Maddux to select Kevin Orie 29th overall. Orie’s first partial season in 1993 was a decent one (.788 OPS). He then spent almost the entire 1994 season on the DL. He had surprisingly good patience for someone in the Cubs organization. Coming back from injury in 1996 at the age of 22 in AA and AAA, he hit .299/.389/.462. He played nearly an entire season with the Chicago Cubs the following year and played pretty well at the age of 23. He hit .275/.350/.431. Drafted as a SS, he had moved to 3rd base by that time though he did get 4 innings of SS in during his rookie season. The Cubs traded Orie to the Marlins in 1998 for Felix Heredia. He didn’t make it back to the big leagues after 1999 until a very short stint with the Cubs in 2002.
1994 – Jay Peterson
Let’s just say the Cubs wish they had the 15th overall pick back. Peterson was never very good in the minor leagues (career 4.8+ ERA) and never reached the big leagues. He played in the Cubs minor league organization through 1996 and then for the Reds organization in 1997 and 1998. That was his last professional appearance.
1995 – Kerry Wood
The 4th overall pick cruised through the minor leagues and made his big league debut in 1998. I don’t think I need to say anything else except Baseball America rated him the 16th best prospect in baseball prior to 1996, the 3rd best prior to 1997 and the 4th best prior to 1998. He lived up to expectations.
1996 – Todd Noel
Another right handed pitcher that wouldn’t reach the big leagues. Noel was picked 17th overall and things looked really good in 1997. He struckout 63 in 59 innings as an 18 year old in rookie league and allowed only 39 hits. He spend the following year with the Cubs and then was traded along with Orie to the Marlins. Noel had excellent stuff as I recall. He had tremendous potential, but injuries took what career he may have had away from him. He only threw 293 professional innings before his career came to an end after the 2000 season. Many of those seasons were injury-filled seasons.
1997 – Jon Garland
Drafted 10th overall at just the age of 17, he was outstanding in his brief stint in rookie ball. He struggled a bit in 1998, which may have led the Cubs to the decision that trading the 18 year old A-ball pitcher for Matt Karchner was somehow a good idea. It wasn’t at the time and it ended up being a terrible trade. Prior to 2000 he was rated the 32nd best prospect in baseball. He made his big league debut with the White Sox that season and it did not go well. From 2005 through 2007 he was a very good pitcher and he’s still pitching with the Dodgers.
1998 – Corey Patterson
Rated by Baseball America as the 16th best prospect in baseball prior to the 1999 season (his first professional season), he did not let anyone down. At the age of 19, he tore the shit out of Midwest League pitching. He hit .320/.358/.592 in his first season of professional baseball. He skipped High A and in 2000 he still hit .261/.338/.491. That earned him a September call-up at only 20 years old. Things didn’t go as well for Patterson the following year. He split time between the Iowa and Chicago Cubs. He posted just a .676 OPS in his first full season in 2002 and then appeared to be on the right track in 2003 before the season-ending injury. Patterson has bounced around since. He spent some time with the Orioles (twice), Nationals, Brewers and he’s now with the Blue Jays. He’s been worth 1.7 rWAR already this season. For what it’s worth, only Kosuke Fukudome has a higher rWAR (1.8) on the Cubs than Patterson does right now. Zambrano is next at 1.6. I’m not saying the Cubs screwed up here. They didn’t. Patterson is Mr. Inconsistent.
1999 – Ben Christensen
The big righty from my home state of Iowa (unfortunately) was selected 26th overall. A college pitcher in my now home state of Kansas (unfortunately) he became a very highly ranked prospect while with Wichita State. In 2000, Christensen pitched at A+ and AA and totaled 106.2 innings. He allowed just 79 hits. He struckout 105 and walked 30. That 2.36 ERA earned him the 32nd best prospect ranking by Baseball America prior to the 2001 season. He pitched less than 20 innings that season due to injury. He threw less than 65 the following year. Rehabbing in lower levels in 2003 he threw just 30.2 innings. In 2004 he pitched less than 20 innings. His career was over. I don’t think people realize how often this happens to promising young pitchers. It’s not like it’s just Wood and Prior. It happens a lot. You can’t feel too bad about this career coming to an end, though.
What Christensen is known for is nearly taking the vision away from an on-deck hitter in college while at Wichita State in 1999. Anthony Molina stood just 24 feet away from Christensen prior to the start of the inning. He was taking his practice swings. The Wichita State coach had told his pitch to make sure the hitters weren’t taking their swings too close to the pitcher. Christensen fired a ball directly at Anthony Molina that hit the unsuspecting Molina square in the face. Multiple facial fractures and vision that now reduced to 20/400, nobody thought twice about drafting Christensen in the first round. Christensen would later settle out of court with Molina after his professional baseball career had ended.
This was probably the first Baseball Prospectus article I ever read.
This projectile, launched at about 90 miles per hour, struck Molina in his left eye, effectively ruining his potential baseball career and consigning him to an immediate future filled with delicate and risky surgeries, and a probable lifetime of blurred vision.
But hey, this is baseball, and these things happen. Ask Kirby Puckett. Puckett’s career was probably cut short by a Dennis Martinez pitch. Unfortunate, but an accident nonetheless.
But was this an accident?
Well, according to published reports, Molina was warming up about 14 feet to the side of home plate. That means that if it was an accident, Christensen missed his target by approximately 20 degrees. Christensen’s pitching coach, Brent Kemnitz, told reporters after the incident that he teaches his pitchers to dust hitters who time pitches.
This was a felony. Assault & battery with a deadly weapon. You’ve got intent to do harm, you’ve got deliberate action and you’ve got damn near deadly force. Christensen’s behind should have been hauled off and booked, and charges should have been brought against him. Kemnitz should have been right there with him, and an investigation into how much Wichita State head coach Gene Stephenson had to do with Christensen’s assault should have commenced–by Wichita State itself, if the authorities couldn’t be persuaded.
Instead, you’ve got the Chicago Cubs drafting and signing Christensen, and a totally insincere apology by this piece of human detritus. Fortunately, based on the Cubs’ history of talent acquisition and development, it’s probably safe to assume that Christensen will be hideous. He’ll get a whole bunch of chances to fail, and I’ll be hoping he capitalizes on all of them. I also hope he approaches Eric Chavez‘s ex-advisor for financial guidance.
2000 – Luis Montanez
Then a shortstop out from California, Montanez is currently a superstar with the Chicago Cubs.
2001 – Mark Prior
The 2nd overall pick and the most talented player in the 2001 draft, Prior reached the big leagues after just 9 minor league starts. I think I read something about Prior being out with a groin injury now. I think he’s in the Yankees system, but I’m not going to look. It’s too depressing.
2002 – Bobby Brownlie, Luke Hagerty, Chadd Blasko, Matt Clanton
Selected 21st overall, Brownlie got off to a strong professional start. In his first season he threw 66 innings in High A and allowed only 48 hits while striking out 59. 2004 was even a good season at AA. Then it went south.
Hagerty, Blasko and Clanton were picked 32nd, 36th and 38th. Each was a supplemental draft pick after the Cubs offered arbitration to Rondell White, Todd Van Poppel and David Weathers. Clanton was out of baseball after 2003, Blasko after 2007, Hagerty after 2008 and Brownlie after 2009. None reached the big leagues.
2003 – Ryan Harvey
A power hitting right fielder ranked 65th and 66th prior to 2004 and 2005 never had the plate discipline to be successful at the big league level. The Cubs released him after 2008 and the Rockies gave him a chance, but he’s now out of baseball (2010 was his last season). He posted a career .749 OPS, but that included an OBP below .300. He had a lot of power, but didn’t know how to take pitches.
2004 – no first round pick
2005 – Mark Pawelek
He was the 20th pick and in his first season the lefty looked to have a promising career ahead of him. At the age of 18 in rookie league he struck out 60 in 46 innings while allowing just 31 hits. The strikeouts began to go decline too much as he jumped to short-season A ball. I don’t remember which year it was, but I think it was 2007 when he woke up in spring training or something and tripped over a Playstation. He missed significant time because of that. Not necessarily because of the injury, he was never any good after that and the Cubs released him the same day they released Ryan Harvey.
2006 – Tyler Colvin
Tim Wilken’s first draft with the Cubs was this one and he went with a guy who was ranked below 150th by Baseball America. He’s now with the Chicago Cubs though he probably shouldn’t be. Here’s what Baseball America had to say about Colvin at the time of the draft.
Colvin was the hottest hitter coming down the stretch for one of college baseball’s hottest teams. It’s redemption for a player who finished 2005 in a 4-for-39 slump. Colvin took a 15-game hitting streak into the Atlantic Coast Conference tournament, as his tools start turning into production. Colvin’s timing couldn’t be better, as scouts are looking for any college hitters who have tools and are performing. Colvin doesn’t have a tool that stands out, but as he has gained strength he has been able to repeat his smooth lefthanded swing more readily, and he’s added power to be average in that department. He’s an above-average runner and an efficient basestealer who plays a solid left field. Colvin’s arm is average. While he doesn’t stand out, he has shown fewer and fewer weaknesses this spring, and some scouts estimated he would go in the first three rounds.
2007 – Josh Vitters, Josh Donaldson
Since these are so recent, I’m just going to post what Baseball America has to say. I think most people here are familiar with the top picks from this point on. Vitters was the 3rd pick.
Vitters’ older brother Christian was a solid prospect who had an excellent career at Fresno State. While Christian was a 10th-round pick, Josh figures to go nine rounds higher. He entered last summer as one of the top hitters in the class, then blew to the top of the heap while dominating at the Area Code Games, doubling three times at the Aflac Classic and earning MVP honors at the Cape Cod Classic. While Vitters has solid defensive and running tools, that’s not what earned him such accolades–his bat did. He has tremendous feel for getting the fat part of the bat to the ball, and with his tremendous bat speed and barrel awareness, he drives the ball more consistently than any hitter in the class. Scouts describe him as the rare righthanded hitter with a pretty swing, and he’s shown the ability to handle different velocities and different styles of pitching with ease. Vitters’ his hand-eye coordination and ability to make contact are almost too good, because at times he swings at pitches he should let pass, rather than waiting for one he can punish with his all-fields power. While his hands and footwork at third are sound, he tends to misread hops, and defense doesn’t come easy to him. His bat should play at any position, however. His only speed-bump this spring was a bout with pneumonia that caused him to miss two weeks, but he was still considered a near-lock to be picked in the first five spots overall.
Donaldson was a supplemental pick for Juan Pierre and was taken 48th overall. He was traded to the A’s in the deal for Rich Harden and he made his MLB debut last season.
2008 – Andrew Cashner, Ryan Flaherty
Do we really need to talk about Cashner? Here’s what BA had to say.
For a while, it appeared that the state of Texas might get shut out of the draft’s first round for the first time since 1977. That’s unlikely to happen now, thanks to Cashner, the hottest pitching prospect to come out of Angelina (Texas) JC since Clay Buchholz. Cashner turned down opportunities last year to sign with the Rockies (as a draft-and-follow) and the Cubs (as a 29th-rounder), opting instead to transfer to Texas Christian. A starter at Angelina, Cashner has excelled as a reliever for the Horned Frogs. No college pitcher in this draft can match his consistent 96-98 mph velocity, the product of outstanding whip in his 6-foot-6, 180-pound frame, and overmatched opponents have hit just .104 against him. Cashner has armside run on his fastball, and he backs it up with an 84-85 mph slider that can be electric. The slider is much better than the mediocre curveball he threw in the past, though it’s not always consistent. Neither is his command, which may prevent him from becoming an effective starter, but some clubs are interested in returning him to that role in pro ball. A team in love with radar-gun readings could take Cashner as high as the middle of the first round.
Flaherty was a supplemental pick for Jason Kendall and was selected 41st overall. He’s having a very good season for the Smokies right now and could see MLB action before the end of the season.
2009 – Brett Jackson
The top prospect in the Cubs organization entering the season was selected 31st overall. I wish the Cubs were drafting that low every season (remember 2008?). This was the first time since I’ve closely followed the Cubs drafts in which they chose a college hitter who had excellent patience. I was thrilled with this pick. Jackson missed some time recently because of a pinky injury after a hot start. He’s hit well at each level, but has struggled a bit since his return. He’s also likely to get a call up before the end of the season.
2010 – Hayden Simpson
Like Colvin, Simpson was rated well below where he was picked. I believe BA had him ranked 177th. He signed for half a million under slot and was shocked he was drafted in the first round. So was everyone else. Here’s BA’s take.
Southern Arkansas coach Allen Gum found the most successful pitcher in school history literally right next door. Simpson, his next-door neighbor in Magnolia, Ark., has gone 35-2, 2.39 with 323 strikeouts in 271 innings in three seasons with the NCAA Division II Muleriders. Though he’s just 6 feet and 175 pounds, he has a strong lower half and a quick arm that delivers 91-93 mph fastballs that peak at 96. His fastball is fairly straight and he tends to pitch up in the zone, which could lead to difficulty with tougher competition. He has a pair of hard breaking pitches, an 82-83 mph slider and an 78-80 mph curve. He also has a changeup that he uses sparingly, and he commands his entire repertoire well. His velocity decreased a little toward the end of the season, and some scouts are wary of his size and the fact that he’s never ventured far from Magnolia. Nevertheless, his fastball could get him drafted as high as the fourth or fifth round.
Not a great list first rounders by any stretch of the imagination. Some realy good ones. Some with tremendous potential, but then again, all first rounders have that. Some whose careers were shortened because of injury. Some whose careers were shortened because they couldn’t not swing the bat.
Comments
(dying laughing) What a dickhead.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
I remember this vividely.
My thoughts exactly.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
^^^ (dying laughing)
MishQuote Reply
After Prior, a pretty unimpressive run, pending Cashner’s surgery and whatever Brett Jackson turns out to be.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Nice snark.
I’m curious about where Prior ended up within the Yankees system. He was doing so well in spring training too.
Why no 2004 pick? Did they cough it up to free agent comp?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Why no 2004 pick? Did they cough it up to free agent comp?[/quote]
The guy they selected in the first round was already picked in the 17th round of the 2003 draft. They couldnt’ think of anyone else to use a first on, so they passed.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]The guy they selected in the first round was already picked in the 17th round of the 2003 draft. They couldnt’ think of anyone else to use a first on, so they passed.[/quote]
………..that’s so dumb I don’t think you can even make something like that up.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]………..that’s so dumb I don’t think you can even make something like that up.[/quote]
Give me some credit.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Give me some credit.[/quote]
Is that like me calling you a dumbass?
(Which you’re obviously not)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Is that like me calling you a dumbass?
(Which you’re obviously not)[/quote]
Amusing, but wrong.
MishQuote Reply
BAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Too true!!
doc_blumeQuote Reply
Ah yes, the LaTroy Hawkins signing…it’s fun to just give away draft picks.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
As far as I can tell Mark Prior is still on the DL for the Yankees’ AAA affiliate.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Is that like me calling you a dumbass?
(Which you’re obviously not)[/quote]
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]
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Correct.
*transforms*
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[quote name=Mish]Amusing, but wrong.[/quote]
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/6/6/2209607/2011-mlb-draft-who-is-that-guy
MishQuote Reply
What the hell is wrong with Colvin? Too much time on the bench last year?
joshQuote Reply
this is why i can’t get excited about draft day any more than i can a crap shoot in which i don’t even have a pass line bet. for the cubs, maybe a crappy shoot with a fail line. the odds anything beyond replacement level comes out of the whole mess are about 1/5 for this team.
gaius mariusQuote Reply
Who were the prominent over slot guys? F7…
GWQuote Reply
Didn’t the draft used to start during the day?
Suburban kidQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid]Didn’t the draft used to start during the day?[/quote]
Last year was the first draft I watched with you fuckers and it was indeed during the day. I think the awesomeness of this year’s draft class requires prime-time.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Z is having a weird year. He’s been a finesse pitcher, really. He’s been somewhat above average, but I don’t know if he can keep it up.[/quote]
Agreed. His strikeouts and his groundballs are both way down, even from his last few seasons.
BerseliusQuote Reply
I don’t have MLBN, I’m assuming I can watch live online somewhere?
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Agreed. His strikeouts and his groundballs are both way down, even from his last few seasons.[/quote]His walk rate is also a career low. If he can keep it that low, he’ll probably be fine, but I’m skeptical.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]Who were the prominent over slot guys? F7…[/quote]
That list might be even more depressing for CHC fans.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
(dying laughing) at the 2002 draft. I don’t know if it’s more hilarious that the Cubs had four first round picks that all failed or that they got one of them for offering arb to Todd Fucking Van Poppel, or that TFVP turned it down (dying laughing) (dying laughing)
BerseliusQuote Reply
Also, holy shit at that Christensen story. I hadn’t heard that one before.
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]That list might be even more depressing for CHC fans.[/quote]
huseby, szczvzur, ….
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Last year was the first draft I watched with you fuckers and it was indeed during the day. I think the awesomeness of this year’s draft class requires prime-time.[/quote]
Is it still just going to be footage of a conference call, or are they jazzing it up this year?
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]huseby, szczvzur, ….[/quote]
Rundle
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Z is just a different pitcher this year, probably thanks to Riggins. I don’t think his numbers are really cause for alarm. Unless he’s getting by only on the fact he isn’t the same as the scouting reports say.
He’s throwing his cutter 10% more. Splitter and fastball are down. And he weirdly has fangraphs confused by throwing an “unknown” pitch 9%. That’s pretty high as far as FG goes.
jtsunamiQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]Rundle[/quote]Stinkfish
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[quote name=jtsunami]Stinkfish[/quote]
Banksy
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[quote name=Josh]What the hell is wrong with Colvin? Too much time on the bench last year?[/quote]No patience, mediocre contact skills, and a bad eye.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]No patience, mediocre contact skills, and a bad eye.[/quote]
I want a second opinion.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]I want a second opinion.[/quote]
No patience, mediocre contact skills, and a bad eye. And a big hole in his chest.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]I want a second opinion.[/quote]http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/2010/03/tyler-colvin-users-manual.html
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
I’m probably not going to be viewing the draft live, mb or Aisle or B or AC, can you tweet the pick(s) even if there’s no new post?
jtsunamiQuote Reply
Brett Jackson’s contact skills are even worse.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Is it still just going to be footage of a conference call, or are they jazzing it up this year?[/quote]
I don’t know, last year I got to watch everything live on MLB.com and Bud Selig announced all the picks at a podium so if that’s what you’re talking about, I expect to see that again this year.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Brett Jackson’s contact skills are even worse.[/quote]Brett Jackson’s eye is the best in the entire organization. I think that makes up for it.
jtsunamiQuote Reply
No contact with a good eye = ok.
No contact with a bad eye = not ok.
jtsunamiQuote Reply
[quote name=jtsunami]Brett Jackson’s eye is the best in the entire organization. I think that makes up for it.[/quote]
The Cubs drafted a cyclops!
Rice CubeQuote Reply
rumors coming out that the Cubs might draft Cuban lefty Onelki Speck
JManQuote Reply
Draft is primetime tonight, streaming live online just like last year.
GBTSQuote Reply
I know there’s a lot of worry about Wilken going off the radar again. But no way does that happen again. Not at 9 at least. If they drafted another player to sign under slot then the fans and media would have a bigger field day than Z breaking another bat over his knee. Or breaking a bat over Quade’s head.
The pick won’t be anyone not named Bradley, Starling, Hultzen, Rendon, Springer, Baez, or Lindor. Springer and Baez being the worst case.
jtsunamiQuote Reply
[quote name=jtsunami]I know there’s a lot of worry about Wilken going off the radar again. But no way does that happen again. Not at 9 at least. If they drafted another player to sign under slot then the fans and media would have a bigger field day than Z breaking another bat over his knee. Or breaking a bat over Quade’s head.
The pick won’t be anyone not named Bradley, Starling, Hultzen, Rendon, Springer, Baez, or Lindor. Springer and Baez being the worst case.[/quote]
imo, Lindor and Baez would be reaches. Not Simpson reaches, but still.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=jtsunami]I know there’s a lot of worry about Wilken going off the radar again. But no way does that happen again. Not at 9 at least. If they drafted another player to sign under slot then the fans and media would have a bigger field day than Z breaking another bat over his knee. Or breaking a bat over Quade’s head.
The pick won’t be anyone not named Bradley, Starling, Hultzen, Rendon, Springer, Baez, or Lindor. Springer and Baez being the worst case.[/quote]
jt, I think you’re vastly over-counting the number of Cubs fans who give a damn about the draft.
BerseliusQuote Reply
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/6/6/2209360/in-defense-of-carlos-zambrano
No thoughts from Al yet.
ZappBranniganQuote Reply
I was referring more towards the Speck and Mahtook rumors. I don’t consider Lindor a stretch at 9 though.
jtsunamiQuote Reply
[quote name=jtsunami]I was referring more towards the Speck and Mahtook rumors. I don’t consider Lindor a stretch at 9 though.[/quote]
Can you explain the Lindor love to me?
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=JMan]rumors coming out that the Cubs might draft Cuban lefty Onelki Speck[/quote]
Another mild reach. At this point, CHC should be happy with a mild reach.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
http://aeryssports.com/a-league-of-her-own/maybe-milton-bradley-was-right/
Rice CubeQuote Reply
RF Fuke
2B Barn
SS Star
1B Los
3B Ram
LF Blake
C Sote
CF Ty
P Garz
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]RF Fuke
2B Barn
SS Star
1B Los
3B Ram
LF (dying laughing)
C Sote
CF (dying laughing)
P Garz[/quote]
There we go.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]http://aeryssports.com/a-league-of-her-own/maybe-milton-bradley-was-right/[/quote]Wow. That’s a big admission from Julie. She’s spot-on, though. I love how badly this thing has blown up on the beat guys. They are fucked.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Wow. That’s a big admission from Julie. She’s spot-on, though. I love how badly this thing has blown up on the beat guys. They are fucked.[/quote]
yeah, it’s accreditation day for ovblog
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]RF Spinny
2B Flukey
SS Swingy
1B Oldie
3B Donesie
LF Floppy
C 2009y
CF Hacky
P Breaky[/quote]Baldy McGrindy and the Nine Dwarves
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
I’m not saying I want Lindor, but I don’t see how you don’t think he’s at least top 12 on the board. He is a true SS who has a bat that could play well there. Kind of a Starlin Castro clone at the plate but he has better defense. Now, he’ll have to really hit to have as high of an average as Starlin. He’s a switch hitter and he has a really good arm. At worst he moves to 3B, but everyone’s confident in his ability to stay at SS.
I wouldn’t be thrilled with the pick, but I wouldn’t say it’s a mild reach either. It obviously depends on who’s still there.
jtsunamiQuote Reply
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/6/6/2209152/baseball-draft-prospects-2011-gerrit-cole
I’m sure they’ll post they best of Day 3 on Wednesday. Then you can read about CHC’s first rounder.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]yeah, it’s accreditation day for ovblog[/quote]It’s too bad ACB got shut down before everything we’ve ever written about that hobbity twat Sullivan was proven true.(dying laughing)
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=jtsunami]I’m not saying I want Lindor, but I don’t see how you don’t think he’s at least top 12 on the board. He is a true SS who has a bat that could play well there. Kind of a Starlin Castro clone at the plate but he has better defense. Now, he’ll have to really hit to have as high of an average as Starlin. He’s a switch hitter and he has a really good arm. At worst he moves to 3B, but everyone’s confident in his ability to stay at SS.
I wouldn’t be thrilled with the pick, but I wouldn’t say it’s a mild reach either. It obviously depends on who’s still there.[/quote]
I think he’s Edgar Renteria AT BEST. If I’m picking at No. 9 in the deepest, most top-heavy draft class in years, I want more than a potential Edgar Renteria at No. 9.
Bottom line for me: I can name nine pitchers I’d rather have than Lindor. I can name nine position players I’d rather have.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I just don’t see what the fuss is about.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]It’s too bad ACB got shut down before everything we’ve ever written about that hobbity twat Sullivan was proven true.(dying laughing)[/quote]
Can’t wait to see your newest post on this subject.
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For what it’s worth, Edgar Renteria was a good player for a long time. 38.6 fWAR
BerseliusQuote Reply
Please use this instead of Orson from now on.
Thanks.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]For what it’s worth, Edgar Renteria was a good player for a long time. 38.6 fWAR[/quote]
Yes he was. Lindor is a LONG way away from that, though. The “AT BEST” comps for at least a dozen guys in the draft are much better than Renteria, though.
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[quote name=Jame Gumb]
Please use this instead of Orson from now on.
Thanks.[/quote]
Do not presume to tell me what to do.
BerseliusQuote Reply
http://www.wgntv.com/blogs/lenandbob/wgntv-cubs-not-taking-it-eazy-20110606,0,7381520.story
Len and Bob do not agree on Z. Must be sweeps week.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]Do not presume to tell me what to do.[/quote]
I don’t think I was presuming.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Interesting note from the BTF thread on Z’s comments:
MishQuote Reply
in order of my wants for pick #9
1. Bubba Starling
2. Archie Bradley
3. Javier Baez
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Interesting note from the BTF thread on Z’s comments:[/quote]Nope the next lowest is Houston with .673. http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/2011.shtml
ACTQuote Reply
^^^ well aren’t you a little faget. (dying laughing)
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]http://www.wgntv.com/blogs/lenandbob/wgntv-cubs-not-taking-it-eazy-20110606,0,7381520.story
Len and Bob do not agree on Z. Must be sweeps week.[/quote]Wow. I guess Len knows which side of the bread the butter is on. Fucking sycophant.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
Yeah disappointed to see Len’s reaction here.
MishQuote Reply
FanGraph’s latest power rankings:
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BtB’s mock:
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[quote name=jtsunami]I’m probably not going to be viewing the draft live, mb or Aisle or B or AC, can you tweet the pick(s) even if there’s no new post?[/quote]I’ll have a new thread up right at about 6 pm and update it through at least until the Cubs pick. Then what I’ve done in the past is start a new thread and collect information about the no-name player they selected. Is that good enough?
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[quote name=jtsunami]Brett Jackson’s eye is the best in the entire organization. I think that makes up for it.[/quote]Agreed. I don’t really care about the strikeouts. It would of course be awesome if he didn’t strikeout much, but the guy’s discipline is outstanding.
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[quote name=GBTS]Draft is primetime tonight, streaming live online just like last year.[/quote]It’s also on MLBN
mb21Quote Reply
KG tweet:
This probably fucks up the Cubs’ entire draft strategy.
Aisle424Quote Reply
Here’s why I care about the strikeouts: http://www.masnsports.com/steve_melewski/2011/02/looking-at-some-minor-league-strikeout-totals.html
Yes, it’s possible that he has the skillset to compensate, but it’s not an encouraging sign.
ACTQuote Reply
Sorry, wrong link. here it is: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/4/22/2123847/the-significance-of-minor-league-k-rates
ACTQuote Reply
More from KG:
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Oh yeah, that guy from Cuba who nobody has heard of, but the Cubs are supposedly interested in, that’s who they’ll draft. That way they can say they scout the best talents in Cuba. He’s only 23 years old so it’s a good way to spend first round money. (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]KG tweet:
This probably fucks up the Cubs’ entire draft strategy.[/quote]No doubt.
mb21Quote Reply
I’m thanking the draft coverage for me not having to write a preview today (dying laughing)
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]KG tweet:
This probably fucks up the Cubs’ entire draft strategy.[/quote]
It makes it easier – now they can go ahead and draft an inelgible guy and not sign him (dying laughing)
BerseliusQuote Reply
[quote name=Berselius]I’m thanking the draft coverage for me not having to write a preview today (dying laughing)[/quote]lazy bastard
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]KG tweet:
This probably fucks up the Cubs’ entire draft strategy.[/quote][quote name=mb21]Oh, indeed.[/quote].
Biggus DickusQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]lazy bastard[/quote]
Hey, I did write a draft coverage article today
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I am hoping Starling slips to #9 but that’s probably not gonna happen. I prefer Lindor to Baez. But that’s just me.
The Cubs are bound to take one of the prep arms that slip….. I wonder if Danny Hulzen’s 13 million dollar request might scare off teams and he could slip to 9… Here’s to hoping..
2883Quote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Here’s why I care about the strikeouts: http://www.masnsports.com/steve_melewski/2011/02/looking-at-some-minor-league-strikeout-totals.html
Yes, it’s possible that he has the skillset to compensate, but it’s not an encouraging sign.[/quote]For what it’s worth, most of the guys on that list played a corner outfield/infield position (based on a quick glance). I do agree that Jackson will have to reduce the strikeouts if he’s going to be a star. I still think he can be more than decent even if he doesn’t.
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[quote name=2883]I am hoping Starling slips to #9 but that’s probably not gonna happen. I prefer Lindor to Baez. But that’s just me.
The Cubs are bound to take one of the prep arms that slip….. I wonder if Danny Hulzen’s 13 million dollar request might scare off teams and he could slip to 9… Here’s to hoping..[/quote]You’re looking at this all wrong. It’s not about who may slip, but who may rise. There were some kids down the street playing ball. I think one of them may be drafted by the Cubs.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]You’re looking at this all wrong. It’s not about who may slip, but who may rise. There were some kids down the street playing ball. I think one of them may be drafted by the Cubs.[/quote]
I mean I’m 27 have a bad knee and haven’t played organized baseball in 10 or so years, any chance I could be drafted?
I am a fast riser..
2883Quote Reply
draft thread up: http://obstructedview.net/articles/major-league-baseball/2011-mlb-draft-day-one.html
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