We first heard about the Cubs possible interest in Brandon McCarthy a couple days ago and Gordon Whittenmeyer is confirming the Cubs interest, as well as throwing another name out there: Shaun Marcum.
With starting pitching the Cubs’ primary focus again this winter, they already have expressed interest in Athletics right-hander Brandon McCarthy, who was having a good season until suffering a skull fracture when hit by a line drive in September. He underwent surgery and didn’t pitch again this season but appears to be healthy enough for a comeback effort in 2013.
Brewers free agent Shaun Marcum, a 2009 Tommy John surgery graduate who missed two months in 2012 with elbow tightness, is another buy-low candidate the Cubs are eyeing — and a guy whose character they know well through manager Dale Sveum and pitching coach Chris Bosio.
Marcum has been a better than average starter over the last few seasons. He averaged over 3 WAR per season in 2010 and 2011 and had somewhat of a down season last year, but was still productive. He had a 3.70 ERA and 4.14 FIP last year. His strikeout percentage was almost identical to what it was in 2010 and 2011 (20-21%). His walk percentage was up just a bit to 7.8% from 6.9% and 6.0% the previous two seasons.
Marcum has never been a high strikeout percentage, but he's never had trouble striking them out either. This has always surprised me considering his velocity is rarely better than 90 mph. His average fastball last year was less than 87 and it was about the same as the year before.
I was a bit concerned about Dan Haren's drop in velocity because he had relied on it to some extent to strike batters out, but Marcum has done so without the velocity. If his medical report is solid, I think this would be a good pickup for the Cubs.
He can probably be expected to contribute about 2 WAR or so, which makes him worth approximately $10 million on the free agent market. Considering the injury risk, I'd not be willing to go that high and I'd want at least a club option added to the deal too. I'm not sure he could be add for only 1 year, but it's possible Marcum wants to prove he's healthy and hit the free agent market next season.
If the Cubs were to sign both of these guys, the Cubs rotation would suddenly look like a strength when you add in Matt Garza and Jeff Samardzija. It's also a rotation that is flirting with disaster.
You've got the injury prone McCarthy, a pitcher who has perhaps recovered from an elbow injury and another pitcher who hasn't yet shown he has recovered from an arm injury in Garza. Then you have Samardzija who is coming off of only one good season and he's yet to pitch a full year. After him you've got Travis Wood and a bunch of nothing. That could be a fun rotation, but it could also lead to a rotation that is headlined by a struggling Samardzija and Wood followed by the likes of Brooks Raley and Chris Rusin.
That would probably be even less fun than 2012. The question is, is the potential upside worth it? If both of them prove they're healthy, could the Cubs get a decent return midseason like they did with Paul Maholm? They have nothing to lose.
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mb21 wrote:
(dying laughing)
Juan PierreQuote Reply
If we can get Marcum for 2/$18 or 3/$27 I’d jump all over it
WaLiQuote Reply
@ (dying laughing):
Josh Vitters
mb21Quote Reply
(dying laughing) @ referencing @ (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
@ WaLi:
That’s kind of what I was thinking (2/18 with a 3rd year club option).
mb21Quote Reply
Stop creating hope for 2013.
WaLiQuote Reply
@ mb21:
how’d I get dragged into this?
joshQuote Reply
@ WaLi:
*ostrich laugh*
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ josh:
It’s Josh Vitter-s. Not you.
mb21Quote Reply
@ mb21:
So the macro now works for Pierr-e and Vitter-s? Epic.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
You are correct.
mb21Quote Reply
Pierre
EnricoPallazzoQuote Reply
Vitters
EnricoPallazzoQuote Reply
i’ll be damned.
EnricoPallazzoQuote Reply
When Marcum was hurt, he made comments to the effect that he was going to come back and tough it out, play through the pain. And he seemed to pitch worse after coming back. I would stay away unless the medicals look great.
GWQuote Reply
Jason Bay —> unemployed, but what a severance package
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/mets-jason-bay-agree-to-part-ways.html
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ GW:
You’re right. He wasn’t very good after the return. I still wouldn’t mind him, but probably only a 1 year deal for around 6-8 million with a club option.
mb21Quote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
It’s funny, because when he signed, The Onion ran an article that said something like “Bay: “So I’m signing with the Mets, I guess.””
joshQuote Reply
http://www.theonion.com/articles/resigned-jason-bay-well-im-a-met-now,7031/
joshQuote Reply
MLBTR: D’Backs In “Active Discussions” About Justin Upton http://t.co/Dixo9TjQ #cubs
jtsunamiQuote Reply
So we can’t trade Almora or Soler correct? If somehow, some way they can get him and keep Baez, Castro, and Rizzo, I’ll buy tickets to 4 games next year (dying laughing)
Rereading that, it can’t happen. (dying laughing)
jtsunamiQuote Reply
@ josh:
I really enjoyed the Carlos Voltron article too.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
jtsunami wrote:
And the Cubs are on his limited no-trade list (dying laughing)
WenningtonsGorillaCockQuote Reply
@ WenningtonsGorillaCock:
IIRC, that is to give him leverage where if the D’Backs find a trade with the Cubs, the Cubs have to agree to a contract extension with him before he would waive the NTC.
I could be wrong, although I believe we commented about it here before.
jtsunamiQuote Reply
WenningtonsGorillaCock wrote:
It could go either way. 50-50
BerseliusQuote Reply
Jeremy Guthrie looking for a 3/34 deal (dying laughing). He of the career 5.44 K/9, who put up a 5+ FIP last year.
BerseliusQuote Reply
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/diamondbacks-will-listen-to-offers-for-trevor-bauer.html
Why are the D’Backs holding a fire sale?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
They’re covering up the fact that Upton and Bauer were injured due to some reckless dart throwing by Bob Brenly
BerseliusQuote Reply
If anyone has insider, the Quasi-Pope just put up the first ZiPS runs for the NL central
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/conversations/_/id/8601742/projecting-national-league-central-players-teams-2013-mlb
BerseliusQuote Reply
Hey so I started a stupid blog where I could post silly shit that makes me laugh. You should check it out.
http://gbtshumor.wordpress.com/
As you can see I worked really hard coming up with a creative title. Vitters
GBTSQuote Reply
GBTS wrote:
You need to work on your advertising skills (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
@ GBTS:
I spent about 5 minutes looking for Alvin in those pictures (dying laughing)
BerseliusQuote Reply
@ Berselius:
That would have been some stupid blog named Where’s Alvin? Duh.
mb21Quote Reply
@ jtsunami:
You can’t trade anyone who hasn’t been in the minor league organization for less than a year without their approval (essentially a no-trade clause). I think they have to include Baez to get a deal to get Upton and that’s just fine with me. Probably takes more than Baez, but maybe not much more. The Cubs can get it done if they want.
mb21Quote Reply
@ GBTS:
Your stupid blog wouldn’t let me leave a comment at first, because someone who has an account on WordPress has already used the email address sk@sk.sk
(dying laughing)
Suburban kidQuote Reply
mb21 wrote:
GBTS Blog: It’s a Way of Blog
GBTSQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
That’s stupid.
mb21Quote Reply
@ Berselius:
Reds 84-78
Cardinals 83-79
Brewers 79-83
Pirates 75-87
Cubs
69-93147-15mb21Quote Reply
@ mb21:
The Cubs will lose 15 games? Unacceptable.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ mb21:
vitters
GBTSQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
Oh come on.
GBTSQuote Reply
Josh Vitters
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
That’s the Cub, not the artist, by the way.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
How am I supposed to know some guy who started a new stupid blog is going to write his name without capitalizing it? It’s fixed now.
mb21Quote Reply
Funny stuff here for you football fans.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8603746/tim-tebow-lost-emails
Mobile RodrigoQuote Reply
I once wrote a paper for a grad class that suggested this very thing. It was soon after human cloning became a major topic. The prof was a Sox fan, so I suggested the Reinsdorph would clone Albert Belle and pay poor inner city Chicago women to surrogate the kids. That seemed within the realm of possibility, based on the public personae of the folks involved. I was kind of bored with the assignment and decided to have fun with it. My grade wasn’t too good on the paper. Turns out the science was maybe OK, but the rest was pretty insulting, I guess. (dying laughing) (dying laughing)
SVBQuote Reply
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Or maybe they can put Chapman in the rotation anyway and move a shittier pitcher to the bullpen?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Broxton? Ewwww.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
I’d love to see what Aroldis could accomplish as a starter, but right now he’s almost a one-pitch pitcher (it’s a helluva pitch, but still…)
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Nate Silver on Daily Show again tonight
BerseliusQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
If you can get a little cred on the blog from other sites, then OV might absorb you, furthering their Google-like business model of just buying what they want.
SVBQuote Reply
@ Berselius:
Did he gloat?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/08/the-dan-haren-carlos-marmol-trade-fell-through-because-of-harens-health/
MishQuote Reply
FanGraphs Top 15 Cubs Prospects: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/chicago-cubs-top-15-prospects-2012-13/
MishQuote Reply
BP wrote up a staff debate on the Cubs prospect list
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=18860
BerseliusQuote Reply
@ Mish:
ah yes, the comp to a 90s talk show host does raise serious doubts.
GWQuote Reply
@ GW:
Fangraphs saying Fangraphs things.
MishQuote Reply
@ GW:
Yeah I was confused by that too.
WaLiQuote Reply
New video footage obtained of secret Cubs winter training program for prospects and young players on the 25-man roster, personally overseen by Dale Sveum in an unlikely location: http://youtu.be/6tbW2m8-U7E
Suburban kidQuote Reply
GW wrote:
We’d know they really liked him if they compared him to some obscure micro-indie musical troupe.
BerseliusQuote Reply
from HJE:
“Incidentally, I met a girl over the weekend whose father has Wrigley Field seats right behind home plate. Because of the nature of his business, he gets quite a bit of inside access to team events. This girl had a chance to meet Crane, who was greasily hanging all over a girl who was young enough to be his daughter, and who seemed loose enough to be a hooker. According to this girl, Crane was “disgusting.” She also mentioned that pretty much everyone in the organization despises him. So, every horrible thing you’ve ever thought about Crane Kenney is probably completely accurate.”
@ Suburban kid:
who is the guy on the bike that gets destroyed? campana?
EnricoPallazzoQuote Reply
EnricoPallazzo wrote:
I think that was SK’s son
BerseliusQuote Reply
Berselius wrote:
mb21Quote Reply
Face ——-> Palm
http://obstructedview.net/facepalm/daily-facepalm-11-8-12.html
BerseliusQuote Reply