See, I told you it was too early to set a lineup because just a few days after this post, the Cubs did a thing:
The Cubs have agreed to sign Trey Mancini to a two-year contract, according to ESPN’s Jesse Rogers (Twitter link). Mancini, a client of the Frontline agency, can opt out of the deal following the 2023 season if he amasses at least 350 plate appearances in the first year of the contract, 670 The Score’s Bruce Levine reports (via Twitter). Also from Levine, Mancini will earn $14MM in guaranteed money over the two years of the deal, and another $7MM is available in bonus clauses related to plate appearances.
Via MLBTR
The various talking heads suggest it’s straight up $7MM per season for the two years, and if Trey Mancini can get 350 plate appearances over the 2023 season, he can opt out of the contract. This gives the Cubs an obvious platoon partner for Eric Hosmer, allows them to have Matt Mervis work on his defense or whatever, and delay the next roster decision for the moment. This also potentially allows them various other options, including giving Christopher Morel the time at Iowa that he missed when he came up last season. It’s too early in the game to figure out which player they’ll boot off the roster at this time to make room for Mancini, or if they just try to outright one of the many Quad-A position players, but this is what I have as the set of players most likely to break camp with (bold meaning I think that’s a lock):
- Catcher – Tucker Barnhart (L), Yan Gomes (R)
- First Base – Trey Mancini (R), Eric Hosmer (L), Patrick Wisdom (R)
- Second Base – Nico Hoerner (R)
- Shortstop – Dansby Swanson (R)
- Third Base – Zach McKinstry (L), Miles Mastrobuoni (L), Christopher Morel (R)
- Left Field – Ian Happ (S)
- Center Field – Cody Bellinger (L)
- Right Field – Seiya Suzuki (R)
- Bench/Designated Hitter – Nick Madrigal (R), Nelson Velázquez (R)
So that’s eight “locks” and another seven players fighting for the final five spots. Mancini’s presence does allow them a backup corner outfielder, and will reduce the number of plate appearances given to guys with obvious flaws like Patrick Wisdom. I only suggest that Hosmer, Wisdom, and the rest aren’t locks because who knows if someone in the “non-roster invite” pool makes them dispensable, but if I were a betting person (I am not), I’d say the final five are Hosmer, one of McKinstry/Mastrobuoni, Morel, Wisdom, and Madrigal.
This brings us to yet another projected lineup, this time from FOX Sports:
- 2B Nico Hoerner
- SS Dansby Swanson
- LF Ian Happ
- RF Seiya Suzuki
- 1B Eric Hosmer
- DH Trey Mancini
- CF Cody Bellinger
- 3B Christopher Morel
- C Tucker Barnhart
There were some comments during the various Cubs Convention sessions where they considered the possibility of using Nico at leadoff, so that’s the difference from the previous lineups I outlined. There was also some comment about Nick Madrigal of all people playing third base, which (dying laughing)…it’s admirable that he’s trying, though I seem to recall him having trouble even making throws from second base, but that’s what spring training is for I guess.
I think the good part about the FOX lineup is less Wisdom (now there’s a pun), and it appears everyone has reached a consensus about the two-thru-four hitters. It probably makes the most sense to just have Nico lead off, but I think Hosmer is hitting too high, not that anyone after Suzuki’s turn in the lineup makes you feel all that good. Let’s try some adjustments. First, against typical starters:
- 2B Nico Hoerner
- SS Dansby Swanson
- LF Ian Happ
- RF Seiya Suzuki
- CF Cody Bellinger
- DH Trey Mancini
- 1B Eric Hosmer
- 3B Christopher Morel
- C Tucker Barnhart
This alternates handedness from the middle of the lineup on, and the hope is that even though we have some major groundball machines towards the bottom, at least with the shift restrictions, some of those will find holes. Bellinger, Mancini, and Morel have some pop, so a little bit of lift would be nice. Here’s what I think they could do against tough lefties:
- 2B Nico Hoerner
- SS Dansby Swanson
- LF Ian Happ
- RF Seiya Suzuki
- 1B Trey Mancini
- 3B Patrick Wisdom
- CF Christopher Morel
- C Yan Gomes
- DH Nick Madrigal
I kind of hope the Cubs are able to find a capable center field backup to spell Bellinger every now and then and not just against tough lefties, because I’m unsure you want to rely on Morel or Happ for that, but as with the regular lineup, this one has its own sets of issues towards the bottom with likely copious amounts of ground balls and a goodly amount of swing-and-miss potential. This is, however, the bed the Cubs have made for themselves, and with them now bumping up against the first luxury tax tier, they’re not going to add anything substantial to the offense anymore (not that anyone is left to sign anyway).
Hopefully one day, the Cubs will be able to sign actual long term, elite offensive players and not guys on pillow contracts. For now, this appears to be the best we can hope for.
Comments
What if, indeed…
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/01/boras-blue-jays-cubs-twins-were-really-after-xander-bogaerts.html
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Rice Cube,
That would have been nice.
dmick89Quote Reply
Names mentioned as LHP options include Britton (thought he retired), Hand, and Will Smith as long as they don’t talk smack about his wife
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/01/the-opener-signings-cubs-fa-bats.html
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(dying laughing) I believe we have a winner for the 2023 marketing slogan.
Smokestack LightningQuote Reply
Smokestack Lightning,
Ooooh I’ll write them a letter right now
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Reds president really stuffing the foot in the mouth again eh
https://theathletic.com/4094180/2023/01/16/reds-president-phil-castellini-luncheon/
Rice CubeQuote Reply
It seems I missed the astronomical signs that signaled it was time for MLB owners to show their whole ass
https://twitter.com/danconnolly2016/status/1615186718042251265?t=bP1OXq7ZE8DWvjJOyvUGKw&s=19
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Greinke getting lowballed? I sort of get it given the pitcher he is now, but still seems disrespectful…also it would be kind of fun to see what he’s got left as a Cub, but I think they’re probably not going to spend much more
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/01/royals-hoping-for-incentive-laden-deal-with-zack-greinke.html
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Heh, kinda nice to see that I’m not completely full of it sometimes:
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I don’t know if he would bring back more than “intriguing reliever” or “bench player” but sure
https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2023/01/17/zach-mckinstry-has-been-a-popular-name-when-other-teams-call-the-cubs/
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MLB Pipeline top 10 LHPs out:
https://www.mlb.com/news/top-left-handed-pitching-prospects-2023?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage
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Yeah that seems about right…too bad, seems a cool guy, just bad luck
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The Cubs should probably just sign Ohtani (and extend Happ)
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/mlb/2024-mlb-free-agents-who-are-the-best-non-shohei-ohtani-hitters-available
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Rice Cube,
I like that plan. Cubs will instead seek a bottom of the rotation starter and backup outfielder who can play all three spots.
dmick89Quote Reply
(dying laughing) they probably should address the claims/DFA yo-yo-ing for these guys on the margins in the next CBA but I’m sure there are way more pressing matters, unfortunately for them
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/01/orioles-outright-lewin-diaz.html
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dmick89,
The best news is that the Cubs already have those so they can go sign someone else! (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Fixed. They’d be saving money!
berseliusQuote Reply
berselius,
Make sure you accept the outright assignment so you can keep all the money
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Bryan at BN reminds that the 60-day IL starts up again in about 3 weeks so some margin guys might stay off waivers then, depending on when the Mancini deal becomes official
Rice CubeQuote Reply
More roster maneuvering needed now to sign Mancini
https://twitter.com/M_Montemurro/status/1615480636260728833?t=XVAIQ9ToTrwoLg3I_0jhPA&s=19
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Cubs apparently landed 3 in the top 100 for Baseball America, this is behind a paywall so I’m unsure whom yet, but I’m gonna guess Brennen Davis, PCA, and either Alcantara or Canario
https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/2023-top-100-prospects/
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Rice Cube,
Ah there we go
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Gonna need a lot of surprises to get substantially above .500 but I guess Passan gave the Cubs a “squint and you can see some good” award
https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2023/01/18/cubs-win-jeff-passans-sneaky-big-step-forward-award-for-their-offseason/
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Welp, it’s wild card or bust, jabronis
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Rice Cube,
Sigh
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Quick new shit before we hopefully record a new podcast soon –> http://www.obstructedview.net/the-division-is-a-pipe-dream/
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