Davis vs. Goliath

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I have a sneaky suspicion Davis doesn’t have the equivalent of a slingshot and smooth stones to fell the Philliestines, but that’s why they play the game.  Amiright?

Mostly, we just needed a new thread.


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  1. Berselius

    Lots of great PAs against Oswalt in the top of the inning. Odd that it was Pena who popped out on the first pitch, since he’s usually so patient

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  2. mb21

    [quote name=Berselius]Lots of great PAs against Oswalt in the top of the inning. Odd that it was Pena who popped out on the first pitch, since he’s usually so patient[/quote]Brenly was right though. He just missed that pitch. A quarter of an inch and that ball was sent 500 feet.

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  3. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]Brenly was right though. He just missed that pitch. A quarter of an inch and that ball was sent 500 feet.[/quote]
    Needed more on the x-coordinate there.

    Doug Davis having control issues.

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  4. Steve Swisher

    Anyone know what’s going on with Brett Jackson? He’s like the only thing I look forward to this season.

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  5. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Berselius](dying laughing) at Len completely misreading Davis ‘hustling'[/quote]
    I’m pretty sure he was being sarcastic (dying laughing)

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  6. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Steve Swisher]Anyone know what’s going on with Brett Jackson? He’s like the only thing I look forward to this season.[/quote]
    He sat for three straight games before playing again last night, no idea why.

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  7. mb21

    [quote name=Steve Swisher]Anyone know what’s going on with Brett Jackson? He’s like the only thing I look forward to this season.[/quote]Injuries and he hasn’t started to hit since coming back.

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  8. mb21

    I really hope that Doug Davis does not start in Kansas City. There’s a good chance he’ll pitch one of those games and it’s going to piss me off. He’s the most boring player ever.

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  9. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]I really hope that Doug Davis does not start in Kansas City. There’s a good chance he’ll pitch one of those games and it’s going to piss me off. He’s the most boring player ever.[/quote]
    It might be nice to be able to take a nap between pitches though.

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  10. Aisle424

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Ryan Howard does not believe in platoon splits.[/quote]
    Platoon splits kind of go out the window when a shitty pitcher like Doug Davis is involved.

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  11. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Aisle424]Platoon splits kind of go out the window when a shitty pitcher like Doug Davis is involved.[/quote]
    Correct.

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  12. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]I really hope that Doug Davis does not start in Kansas City. There’s a good chance he’ll pitch one of those games and it’s going to piss me off. He’s the most boring player ever.[/quote]
    The Royals will sign Trachsel as an emergency starter for that game just to piss you off (dying laughing)

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  13. mb21

    [quote name=Berselius]The Royals will sign Trachsel as an emergency starter for that game just to piss you off (dying laughing)[/quote]I’m going to all 3 games so there’s a 60% chance Davis starts in that series.

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  14. mb21

    If the Cubs stay on schedule, it should be Dempster, Wells and Zambrano that series. Nice. I’d rather see Garza than Wells, but at least it’s not Davis. Davis will be pitching the game before the series opens vs the Royals.

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  15. Rice Cube

    [quote name=AndCounting](dying laughing) at Bob Brenly going off on the human element. I’m in total agreement.[/quote]
    I can’t argue with Bob today.

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  16. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Aisle424]I’m fairly certain we can’t expect anything better from Doug Davis than what we got today.[/quote]
    108 pitches! But I think Q runs him out again to start the 6th because he has to.

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  17. mb21

    [quote name=Aisle424]I’m fairly certain we can’t expect anything better from the Cubs than what we got today.[/quote].

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  18. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]108 pitches! But I think Q runs him out again to start the 6th because he has to.[/quote]He probably would have if the pitcher’s spot didn’t come up that inning.

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  19. Rice Cube

    (dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)

    Scott Maine just gave up a grand slam to get his pitching coach ejected. Then he hit the next batter and got himself ejected.

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  20. ACT

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Cubs —-> #2 pick. Two games back of Houston for #1 pick.[/quote]They can do it! I believe in them!

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  21. ACT

    Carrie Muskat wrote: #Cubs Kerry Wood has blister on right index finger and may need to go on DL. Expect a few roster moves on Monday

    Oh goodie gumdrops.

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  22. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Aisle424]Cubs fall to under .500 under our new banner. That magic didn’t last long.[/quote]
    The trek to .444 has been stalled.

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  23. Aisle424

    [quote name=Rice Cube]The trek to .444 has been stalled.[/quote]
    That turns out to have been blind optimism.

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  24. mb21

    [quote name=Aisle424]That turns out to have been blind optimism.[/quote]Yeah, it’s more like the trek to .396.

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  25. Rice Cube

    The Royals are killing the Angels right now. I know the pitching has been suspect but the offensive stars seem to be real deals. You might see a sweep in KC, mb (dying laughing)

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  26. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]The Royals are killing the Angels right now. I know the pitching has been suspect but the offensive stars seem to be real deals. You might see a sweep in KC, mb (dying laughing)[/quote]I’m OK with that. I’m a Royals fan, too. I’m excited to see some of their young players and can’t wait for more to come up.

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  27. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]I’m OK with that. I’m a Royals fan, too. I’m excited to see some of their young players and can’t wait for more to come up.[/quote]
    It seems they’re more position-player heavy and not too good on the pitching. Are the pitchers just kind of lurking in the wings?

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  28. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=GBTS]So, the Cardinals get the Rays, Orioles, and Blue Jays in interleague play. The Brewers get the Rays, Yankees, and Red Sox.

    That makes sense.[/quote]
    Yes, it is just freaking stupid. I hope the rumored two 15 team leagues helps get that straightened out. I also hope they kill the home field for world series in the all star game. Bud Fucking Idiot Selig.

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  29. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]It seems they’re more position-player heavy and not too good on the pitching. Are the pitchers just kind of lurking in the wings?[/quote]5 of their top 10 were pitchers. They’re heavy on left-handed starters. 4 of the 9 they had in the top 100 were pitchers. The top rated pitchers heading into this season for the Royals were John Lamb, Mike Montgomery, Danny Duffy, Chris Dwyer, and Aaron Crow. All are lefties except Crow.

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  30. mb21

    [quote name=Bubba Biscuit]Yes, it is just freaking stupid. I hope the rumored two 15 team leagues helps get that straightened out. I also hope they kill the home field for world series in the all star game. Bud Fucking Idiot Selig.[/quote]I’m not sure how it would wok out with two 15-team leagues though. I’m not a huge fan of interleague play and would hate to have that going on all season long. One of the leagues will have to be 16 teams. If I was in charge I’d do away with interleague play.

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  31. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=mb21]5 of their top 10 were pitchers. They’re heavy on left-handed starters. 4 of the 9 they had in the top 100 were pitchers. The top rated pitchers heading into this season for the Royals were John Lamb, Mike Montgomery, Danny Duffy, Chris Dwyer, and Aaron Crow. All are lefties except Crow.[/quote]
    And the best might be the guy they got in the Greinke trade, Jake Odorizzi who is a righty. They have about 7 guys that look to be #2 or #3 starters in the majors. Duffy likely the only one that shows up to KC this season. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/top-30-prospects-the-kansas-city-royals/

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  32. Bubba Biscuit

    KC will definitely be a very fun team to watch here soon. The Tampa Bay Rays of the mid-2010’s with the advantage of not being in the AL East.

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  33. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=mb21]Duffy already made his big league debut. 5 starts: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=3542&position=P

    Odorizzi is off to a ridiculous start in High A. over 12 K per 9. 79 strikeouts, 14 walks, 57.2 innings. (dying laughing)[/quote]
    Yes, Duffy is here and will likely hang around and take the rookie bumps this season, but will probably be the only young promising starter KC calls up this year.

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  34. mb21

    Yeah, if they spend a little money after they get good like the Rays did, they could run off multiple division championships and be a force in the playoffs. I can’t wait.

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  35. Rice Cube

    What’s wrong with interleague play? I’m assuming the unbalanced schedule doesn’t help much, but I kind of like the thought of playing teams that you normally don’t play.

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  36. GW

    [quote name=mb21]Did they send Duffy down already?[/quote]
    don’t think so. he’s been having some control issues though.

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  37. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=mb21]Did they send Duffy down already?[/quote]
    No, sorry for being confusing. Duffy is in KC and will stay. No other pitcher is getting called up this year for KC that would be a prospect, maybe in a James Russel spot start situation, but not a top 10 prospect.

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  38. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]What’s wrong with interleague play? I’m assuming the unbalanced schedule doesn’t help much, but I kind of like the thought of playing teams that you normally don’t play.[/quote]Take the Cardinals and Brewers this season. Brewers just took over 1st place, but they play the Rays, Yankees and Red Sox along with home and home against the suddenly hot Twins. The Cardinals play home and home against the Royals, Blue Jays, Orioles and Rays.

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  39. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]Take the Cardinals and Brewers this season. Brewers just took over 1st place, but they play the Rays, Yankees and Red Sox along with home and home against the suddenly hot Twins. The Cardinals play home and home against the Royals, Blue Jays, Orioles and Rays.[/quote]
    Understandable. I think if they do the one interleague series per trip though, there are ways to balance it out better. Cramming interleague into one month makes it hard to achieve balance.

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  40. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=mb21]Take the Cardinals and Brewers this season. Brewers just took over 1st place, but they play the Rays, Yankees and Red Sox along with home and home against the suddenly hot Twins. The Cardinals play home and home against the Royals, Blue Jays, Orioles and Rays.[/quote]
    100% agree here, it either needs to be scrapped (highly unlikely) or fixed to be more balanced.

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  41. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Understandable. I think if they do the one interleague series per trip though, there are ways to balance it out better. Cramming interleague into one month makes it hard to achieve balance.[/quote]
    I meant if they just had interleague as a full-season thing, not just crammed into one month.

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  42. mb21

    Let’s say you two 3-game series each week in interleague play, which would be required with 15-team leagues. In ll reality, it’s probably an average of about 6.25 games per week, but we’ll use 6. The MLB season is 26 weeks long. That’s 156 interleague games, which is actually fewer than there are now so I’m all for it.

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  43. shadasrevenge

    [quote name=mb21]Has Al confirmed this yet?[/quote]
    Al is too busy asking rhetorical questions.

    In other news, I see Sully is opining that the fans are going to let Quade and the team have it tomorrow night. That seems unlikely, as there would have to be people in the ballpark for that to happen.

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  44. Bubba Biscuit

    4 other teams in division x 12 games each (6 home, 6 away) = 48 Games
    10 teams in league, not in division x 6 Games each (3H / 3A) = 60 Games
    15 teams in the other league x 3 games each = 45 Games
    (alternate home / away each season) i.e. Cubs go to Boston this year for 3 games, Boston come to Cubs next year for 3
    1 Interleague rival that you always have a home and away series with each year adds 3 games
    Total of 156 Games

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  45. mb21

    [quote name=shadasrevenge]Al is too busy asking rhetorical questions.

    In other news, I see Sully is opining that the fans are going to let Quade and the team have it tomorrow night. That seems unlikely, as there would have to be people in the ballpark for that to happen.[/quote](dying laughing) not only that, the people in attendance would have to care and I’ve not seen the Cubs fan base care less than they do this year.

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  46. shadasrevenge

    [quote name=mb21](dying laughing) not only that, the people in attendance would have to care and I’ve not seen the Cubs fan base care less than they do this year.[/quote]
    If we think the crowds are bad now, wait until September when vacations end and school starts up again. There won’t be 10,000 in the stands.

    Apathy is the worst thing that could happen for the Cubs right now

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  47. melissa

    [quote name=shadasrevenge]Also, Derek Jeter is going to get his 3000th hit on Friday.

    /salt into wound[/quote]
    I’m hoping he does as I’m going to the game and it will make the Cubs getting their asses kicked interesting.

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  48. mb21

    It’s going to be like the mid 90s. I’m sure 424 can talk more about it, but I remember going to some a few weekend series in the early to mid 90s in September and there was nobody there.

    I really do wonder what actually attendance is so far. Paid attendance is about 34,000 per game, but I doubt actual attendance is 25,000 per game. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s closer to 20,000.

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  49. melissa

    If they went to 15 teams in both leagues then they should either do away with DH or institute it in both leagues. NL teams would have to start carrying a DH player on their roster regardless because they would be at a very big offensive disadvantage.

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  50. shadasrevenge

    [quote name=melissa]I’m hoping he does as I’m going to the game and it will make the Cubs getting their asses kicked interesting.[/quote]
    He got his first grand slam against the Cubs (off of Borowski in 2006), so it only makes sense that he gets 3000.

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  51. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=melissa]If they went to 15 teams in both leagues then they should either do away with DH or institute it in both leagues. NL team would have to start carrying a DH player on their roster regardless because they would be at a very big offensive disadvantage.[/quote]
    I have heard before the player’s union wants the DH in each league, so that could happen. No way they get rid of it in both leagues.

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  52. melissa

    [quote name=Bubba Biscuit]I have heard before the player’s union wants the DH in each league, so that could happen. No way they get rid of it in both leagues.[/quote]
    Yeah, I don’t believe there is any way the players let the DH go but there has been talk that it would remain the way it is now.

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  53. WaLi

    I live in central IL. My neighbor I guess has a family trip every year to a Cubs game. this year they messed up the schedule (or that’s the story) so they are stuck with 8 tickets for this weeks Cubs/Brewers game on Tuesday. They asked me if I wanted to go.. Face value 70$. I feel bad for them (dying laughing)

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  54. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]So what is Al’s argument against Mark Cuban going to be now?[/quote]
    Was there an argument against Mark Cuban before? I must have missed that.

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  55. WaLi

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Was there an argument against Mark Cuban before? I must have missed that.[/quote]
    the argument being cuban has never won

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  56. melissa

    [quote name=mb21]So what is Al’s argument against Mark Cuban going to be now?[/quote]
    Sports history has ended thus no NBA title for Cuban. Done deal. Sealed.

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  57. Bubba Biscuit

    Mark Cuban is now going to have a new wardrobe.

    16 Different styles and colors of T-Shirts saying 2010-2011 NBA Champs Dallas Mavericks.

    Not that I blame him one bit.

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  58. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Bubba Biscuit]Mark Cuban is now going to have a new wardrobe.

    16 Different styles and colors of T-Shirts saying 2010-2011 NBA Champs Dallas Mavericks.

    Not that I blame him one bit.[/quote]
    He can afford it.

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  59. GBTS

    Not only did Cuban just win a championship, he did it with complete class. It’s almost as if he actually reads Yellon.

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  60. Silky Johnson

    [quote name=mb21]So what is Al’s argument against Mark Cuban going to be now?[/quote]
    Cuban hasn’t won a championship in a sport where black people shouldn’t be in the hall of fame.

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  61. Bubba Biscuit

    [quote name=Silky Johnson]Cuban hasn’t won a championship in a sport where black people shouldn’t be in the hall of fame.[/quote]
    Water Polo???

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  62. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Dallas —-> winning[/quote]

    [quote name=bubblesdachimp]Texas =====>> Back to Omaha[/quote]

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  63. Dr. Aneus Taint

    I care nothing about Mark Cuban.

    Who cares about rhetorical questions?

    What if a 2003 Cubs Shortstop makes a double play in Game 6 of the NLCS?

    What if Dusty pulls Mark Prior when he should have in that same game?

    What if Lee Smith doesn’t give up a homer to Steve Garvey in 1984?

    So what? This is a useless exercise about something that didn’t happen.

    by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 12, 2011 11:22 PM CDT reply

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  64. Dr. Aneus Taint

    Irrelevant.

    Since it didn’t happen.

    Owning, and making a winner out of an NBA team, is a very different thing than making a winner out of a MLB team.

    by Al Yellon on Jun 13, 2011 6:57 AM CDT reply

    (dying laughing)

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  65. WaLi

    Wow, they are little bitches over there. Who can’t man up and say “I was wrong. Cuban is obviously a winner now”

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  66. Silky Johnson

    [quote name=Alvin]Owning, and making a winner out of an NBA team, is a very different thing than making a winner out of a MLB team.

    by Al Yellon on Jun 13, 2011 6:57 AM CDT reply[/quote]
    This was obviously going to be his opinion. Can’t give credit to Cuban so say apples and oranges. Cuban can’t win b/c he hasn’t won a World Series. (dying laughing). Even then Alvin would uncut his win.

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  67. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Silky Johnson]This was obviously going to be his opinion. Can’t give credit to Cuban so say apples and oranges. Cuban can’t win b/c he hasn’t won a World Series. (dying laughing). Even then Alvin would uncut his win.[/quote](dying laughing), it’s funny that for most people this was exactly the response they expected from Yellon.

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  68. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Jame Gumb](dying laughing)[/quote]Wait, how can something be both irrelevant and non-existent?

    If it happened, but is not germane to the matter(s) at hand, then it is irrelevant.

    But if it “didn’t happen,” then it just didn’t happen. There has to be an event for it have been irrelevant. So either Cuban won a championship, and Al’s former complaint against him is now moot, or Al thinks Cuban didn’t win a championship, and is therefore a delusional person with a wicked Napoleon complex.

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  69. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=WaLi]Wow, they are little bitches over there. Who can’t man up and say “I was wrong. Cuban is obviously a winner now”[/quote]
    This is not directed at you…

    Because winning a title doesn’t change anything about Cuban’s ability as an owner. Using Alvin’s pea-brained logic, Cuban was a great owner at 9:45 pm yesterday, but not at 9:30 pm yesterday.

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  70. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Wait, how can something be both irrelevant and non-existent?

    If it happened, but is not germane to the matter(s) at hand, then it is irrelevant.

    But if it “didn’t happen,” then it just didn’t happen. There has to be an event for it have been irrelevant. So either Cuban won a championship, and Al’s former complaint against him is now moot, or Al thinks Cuban didn’t win a championship, and is therefore a delusional person with a wicked Napoleon complex.[/quote]
    A: Alvin is a faget that shouldn’t have happened.

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  71. WaLi

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]This is not directed at you…

    Because winning a title doesn’t change anything about Cuban’s ability as an owner. Using Alvin’s pea-brained logic, Cuban was a great owner at 9:45 pm yesterday, but not at 9:30 pm yesterday.[/quote]
    But he isn’t even saying that, is he? Isn’t he is still in denial that Cuban isn’t a good owner? ( If he is using that logic and his argument before was that Cuban never won therefore would be an awful owner in the MLB and his team would never win a game going 0-162 for 5 seasons straight, then shouldn’t Cuban winning mean he is a winner?

    My head hurts.

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  72. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=WaLi]But he isn’t even saying that, is he? Isn’t he is still in denial that Cuban isn’t a good owner? ( If he is using that logic and his argument before was that Cuban never won therefore would be an awful owner in the MLB and his team would never win a game going 0-162 for 5 seasons straight, then shouldn’t Cuban winning mean he is a winner?

    My head hurts.[/quote]Yellon has/had two main gripes: Cuban is “all about himself” and not the team (as if the Rickettses haven’t been shamelessly self-aggrandizing…but I digress) and that Cuban has never won a championship.

    To my mind, this championship removes both those complaints, so Al has found recourse in the final refuge of the defeated: sophistry.

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  73. Silky Johnson

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]This is not directed at you…

    Because winning a title doesn’t change anything about Cuban’s ability as an owner. Using Alvin’s pea-brained logic, Cuban was a great owner at 9:45 pm yesterday, but not at 9:30 pm yesterday.[/quote]
    THIS

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  74. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yellon has/had two main gripes: Cuban is “all about himself” and not the team (as if the Rickettses haven’t been shamelessly self-aggrandizing…but I digress) and that Cuban has never won a championship.

    To my mind, this championship removes both those complaints, so Al has found recourse in the final refuge of the defeated: sophistry.[/quote]
    The way Cuban wrote the foreword in Jonah Keri’s book makes me think that he isn’t that bad of an owner. I mean, the team’s made the playoffs just about every year he’s owned it, and have two Finals appearances and a title to show for it. Plus a couple other Western Conference Finals appearances right? Not to mention that the fans actually like the product…

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  75. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Rice Cube]The way Cuban wrote the foreword in Jonah Keri’s book makes me think that he isn’t that bad of an owner. I mean, the team’s made the playoffs just about every year he’s owned it, and have two Finals appearances and a title to show for it. Plus a couple other Western Conference Finals appearances right? Not to mention that the fans actually like the product…[/quote]And that he’s upgraded the player and fan facilities at the arena there to be among the best, if not the best, in the league.

    In the meantime, in two seasons under Ricketts, a club that was favored to win the NL pennant has become a laughingstock, on and off the field.

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  76. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Rice Cube]The way Cuban wrote the foreword in Jonah Keri’s book makes me think that he isn’t that bad of an owner. I mean, the team’s made the playoffs just about every year he’s owned it, and have two Finals appearances and a title to show for it. Plus a couple other Western Conference Finals appearances right? Not to mention that the fans actually like the product…[/quote]
    Twelve years ago, the Mavericks played in a dump of an arena and 98 percent of the people in Dallas couldn’t name more than two players on the team.

    Now, the DFW area becomes a Mavs town pretty much as soon as NFL season ends.

    Mark Cuban basically took the Washington Natinals and made them into the SF Giants within a few years.

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  77. mb21

    [quote name=Jame Gumb](dying laughing)[/quote]I knew he’d be fun today. If I was ever going to go over there, it would be today, but I’ve got life to live. (dying laughing)

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    [quote name=mb21]I knew he’d be fun today. If I was ever going to go over there, it would be today, but I’ve got life to live. (dying laughing)[/quote]
    It’s been pretty anti-climactic so far. I’ll keep bringing the gold over here.

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  79. Rice Cube

    I think a lot of fans are turned off by Cuban because he used to be so vocal in the past, and seems like a little kid, but I’ve always liked him because he’s so accessible and hands-on. The Dairy Queen episode was hilarious.

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  80. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4672421/did-bucks-just-assure-mavs-of-nba-title[/quote]Ari Kaplan approves of this use of statistics.

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  81. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Ari Kaplan approves of this use of statistics.[/quote]
    I wish I would have seen that in December. Would have made the last week much less stressful.

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    [quote name=Rice Cube]I think a lot of fans are turned off by Cuban because he used to be so vocal in the past, and seems like a little kid, but I’ve always liked him because he’s so accessible and hands-on. The Dairy Queen episode was hilarious.[/quote]Yeah, but I can’t see why. The guy is passionate about the team. All he wants to do is win and make more money, so they can keep winning…and making more money. Losing teams can stay in the black, but they don’t make a ton of money. It doesn’t seem like Ricketts really gets that yet.

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    [quote name=Rice Cube]I think a lot of fans are turned off by Cuban because he used to be so vocal in the past, and seems like a little kid, but I’ve always liked him because he’s so accessible and hands-on. The Dairy Queen episode was hilarious.[/quote]
    He’s new money for sure, but I like that. Why does he have to “act like an owner” for people to like him?

    The DQ thing was a perfect illustration of him. Yes, he runs his mouth, but he doesn’t take himself too seriously to work a cash register for a day.

    Oh wait, he was being self-aggrandizing…

    Fuck you, Alvin.

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  84. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah, but I can’t see why. The guy is passionate about the team. All he wants to do is win and make more money, so they can keep winning…and making more money. Losing teams can stay in the black, but they don’t make a ton of money. It doesn’t seem like Ricketts really gets that yet.[/quote]
    I would think fans would like to see their team’s owner care at least as much as they. Or at least act like it.

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  85. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]He’s new money for sure, but I like that. Why does he have to “act like an owner” for people to like him?

    The DQ thing was a perfect illustration of him. Yes, he runs his mouth, but he doesn’t take himself too seriously to work a cash register for a day.

    Oh wait, he was being self-aggrandizing…

    Fuck you, Alvin.[/quote]
    So when he won Dancing With the Stars, did he donate that to charity? I forgot if he won or not but I heard he did okay.

    I figure if you as an owner put yourself out there in that way, you cause people who don’t know you to google what you do, and then those people find out about your product (lots of playoffs, decent team, new NBA champions) and that’s pretty much another form of advertising. I don’t see anything wrong with that at all.

    It’s really too bad he didn’t buy the Cubs, but I’m glad he was smart enough not to get into a bad deal.

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    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Ari Kaplan approves of this use of statistics.[/quote]Yeah, it’s not that the team they beat were on 12-game winning streaks, which usually means the team is really good. It’s that the Bucks won. (dying laughing)

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    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah, but I can’t see why. The guy is passionate about the team. All he wants to do is win and make more money, so they can keep winning…and making more money. Losing teams can stay in the black, but they don’t make a ton of money. It doesn’t seem like Ricketts really gets that yet.[/quote]It’s really kind of funny because Al wants Ricketts to be the same as Cuban. He wants him to be a huge Cubs fan who roots for the team to win with as much passion as he has. He likes to hear Ricketts talk. He thinks it’s good that Ricketts walks all around the ballpark talking with fans. So on and so forth. Al wants Tom Ricketts to be Mark Cuban, but he doesn’t like Mark Cuban. (dying laughing)

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    [quote name=Jame Gumb]I would think fans would like to see their team’s owner care at least as much as they. Or at least act like it.[/quote]Yeah. It’s odd that Al embraces Ricketts as a “real fan” who “gets it,” but refuses to acknowledge that Cuban is every bit the actual fan the Ricketts only professes to be.

    [quote name=Rice Cube]So when he won Dancing With the Stars, did he donate that to charity? I forgot if he won or not but I heard he did okay.

    I figure if you as an owner put yourself out there in that way, you cause people who don’t know you to google what you do, and then those people find out about your product (lots of playoffs, decent team, new NBA champions) and that’s pretty much another form of advertising. I don’t see anything wrong with that at all.

    It’s really too bad he didn’t buy the Cubs, but I’m glad he was smart enough not to get into a bad deal.[/quote]Yeah, Cuban knows how to make money.

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    [quote name=mb21]Yeah, it’s not that the team they beat were on 12-game winning streaks, which usually means the team is really good. It’s that the Bucks won. (dying laughing)[/quote]Yeah. I only laugh because I suspect this is exactly the kind of analysis Kaplan is supplying Hendry and Quade. (dying laughing)

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  90. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Rice Cube]So when he won Dancing With the Stars, did he donate that to charity? I forgot if he won or not but I heard he did okay. [/quote]
    I didn’t hear anything about that, but (knowing Cuban, though not personally) I’m sure it was more about winning than the money.

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  91. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah. I only laugh because I suspect this is exactly the kind of analysis Kaplan is supplying Hendry and Quade. (dying laughing)[/quote]
    It’s better to laugh than to cry.

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  92. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=mb21]It’s really kind of funny because Al wants Ricketts to be the same as Cuban. He wants him to be a huge Cubs fan who roots for the team to win with as much passion as he has. He likes to hear Ricketts talk. He thinks it’s good that Ricketts walks all around the ballpark talking with fans. So on and so forth. Al wants Tom Ricketts to be Mark Cuban, but he doesn’t like Mark Cuban. (dying laughing)[/quote]
    The only difference is that Alvin thinks Cuban is doing it to get himself press.

    Candidate A has a history of turning shit into gold, including a moribund franchise in a top-5 media market. He is likely one of the most overtly competitive owners in major sports, yet will set aside his ego and hire people he knows are more experienced in sports management than he.

    Candidate B likes the team on sale. Met his wife at a game or some shit.

    Alvin: Candidate B > Candiate A because it’s not clear how badly it can be perceived that he wants to be on TV.

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  93. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Rice Cube]It’s better to laugh than to cry.[/quote]New image for the sidebar:

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  94. Dr. Aneus Taint

    I think that Ricketts is a fan of the team. I think that he just says stupid things sometimes.
    by Shanghai Badger on Jun 13, 2011 9:17 AM CDT upreply

    Agreed.
    by Al Yellon on Jun 13, 2011 9:39 AM CDT upreply

    It’s OK to say stupid things as long as you’re not trying to get on TV.

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  95. Dr. Aneus Taint

    I wanted the Mavs to win for me, but I always knew Cuban winning would icing on the cake. I just didn’t realize how much icing there would be.

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  96. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]New image for the sidebar:
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    The goat fucking the Cub is pretty appropriate right now.

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  97. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]It’s OK to say stupid things as long as you’re not trying to get on TV.[/quote]Because nothing says “I don’t wanna be on TV” like filming an episode of “Undercover Boss.”

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  98. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Rice Cube]The goat fucking the Cub is pretty appropriate right now.[/quote](dying laughing) I’m not sure that image is ever “appropriate.” (dying laughing)

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  99. Alvin

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Because nothing says “I don’t wanna be on TV” like filming an episode of “Undercover Boss.”[/quote]
    That’s different. That was one episode. Cuban appeared on several episodes of Dancing With the Stars, a good show.

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  100. Dr. Aneus Taint

    Will someone with a BCB account please ask Alvin why he prefers Ricketts to Cuban? And don’t let him get away with his bullshit “it’s all about him” response.

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  101. Mercurial Outfielder

    Maybe the best column Rogers has penned in a decade: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-your-morning-phil-realignment-hafner-cuban-20110613,0,7038076.story

    Choice bits:

    Baseball’s current alignment of teams is inherently unfair, because you have a 16-team league and a 14-team league, the difference being the six-team NL Central vs. the four-team AL West. Common sense says two 15-team leagues, but getting there from here is just about impossible.

    For one thing, you’d have to find a team willing to move from the NL to the AL. The one that makes the most sense is Arizona, which could become the fifth team in the AL West, but then you’d need to move a team from the NL Central to the NL West to replace the Diamondbacks, and teams aren’t exactly clamoring for more games in the Pacific Time Zone, which are death to broadcast ratings. For that reason, the Texas Rangers would love to go the other direction, joining the AL Central. So good luck shuffling teams.

    Secondly, how do you do a schedule if you have two 15-team leagues? You’d need inter-league play year round. That could happen, but it would be a real complication. And would you really want inter-league games in September when playoff spots are on the line?

    He goes on to lay out two possible solutions. It’s nice expository writing, and it gives you a real sense of the difficulties involved here.

    Was there a method to Mark Cuban’s near-invisibility during the Dallas Mavericks’ run to the NBA championship? The guy who scared MLB owners by his yelling at officials and constant need for affirmation could not have handled the playoffs any better, staying away from reporters and, after the clinching victory in Game 6, even allowing former Mavs owner Donald Carter to officially accept the trophy. When Stuart Scott tried to interview him, he deferred to coach Rick Carlisle. How could MLB not want a guy like this in its inner circle? Is there a chance that Cuban will surface as the guy to rescue the Dodgers? Or could he take over the Brewers if Mark Attanasio winds up trading in the Brewers for the Dodgers, as John Henry once swapped his holdings in the Marlins for the Red Sox? Could he figure in the Mets’ situation? You shouldn’t rule out anything. And MLB shouldn’t keep out Cuban. He’d be good for baseball, as he’s been for basketball.

    Mark Cuban will buy a baseball team someday, and Cubs fans will forever rue that it was not the Cubs.

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  102. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]
    Mark Cuban will buy a baseball team someday, and Cubs fans will forever rue that it was the Cubs.[/quote]
    Cubs fans are so ungrateful.

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  103. Mish

    I’ve always loved Cuban. I don’t like the idea of monolithic archetypes for owners. I also respect him as a businessman.

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  104. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Cubs fans are so ungrateful.[/quote](dying laughing), I just realized I left out a “not.”

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  105. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Mish]I’ve always loved Cuban. I don’t like the idea of monolithic archetypes for owners. I also respect him as a businessman.[/quote]THIS.

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  106. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Mark Cuban will buy a baseball team someday, and Cubs fans will forever rue that it was not the Cubs.[/quote]
    Cuban buying an NL Central team would be so awesome.

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  107. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=jtsunami]Happy Lebron James Day! Everyone gets to leave work 12 minutes early.[/quote](dying laughing)

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  108. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]Cuban buying an NL Central team would be so awesome.[/quote]I hope he buys the Pirates and turns them into a Cub-killing machine. Yellon would shit himself.

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  109. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Mish]In a hotel in Atlanta, anyone know of anything fun to do?[/quote]You were told not to discuss this.

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  110. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder](dying laughing), I just realized I left out a “not.”[/quote]
    Oh, I thought you were pulling a Yellon.

    I think Cubs fans are already ruing the day.

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  111. Mish

    [quote name=jtsunami]Happy Lebron James Day! Everyone gets to leave work 12 minutes early.[/quote](dying laughing)

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  112. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Mish]In a hotel in Atlanta, anyone know of anything fun to do?[/quote]
    When I was there years ago I just walked around the city and went bar hopping. That’s always fun. Too bad the Braves are out of town.

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    [quote name=Mish]In a hotel in Atlanta, anyone know of anything fun to do?[/quote]I believe Gordon Biersch is a brewery based out of Atlanta. Might be worth checking out. Also Buckhead is a very popular district. When I was pretty young, we went to the famous Buckhead Diner. I remember it being good but especially because of the sweet and sour calimari. Coca-Cola is HQed in Atlanta (they have a tour of the facility). About all I know.

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  114. Lebron

    At the end of the day, all of you people rooting for me to fail, tomorrow you’ll have to wake up and post on the same blog that you had before you woke up today. You got the same personal problems you had today and I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things I want to do.

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  115. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Mish]In a hotel in Atlanta, anyone know of anything fun to do?[/quote]
    Unless you have a gun, staying inside would be the most fun.

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  116. Mish

    [quote name=jtsunami]I believe Gordon Biersch is a brewery based out of Atlanta. Might be worth checking out. Also Buckhead is a very popular district. When I was pretty young, we went to the famous Buckhead Diner. I remember it being good but especially because of the sweet and sour calimari. Coca-Cola is HQed in Atlanta (they have a tour of the facility). About all I know.[/quote]Thanks. In Buckhead right now. Just looking to walk around, grab lunch, then hit the road to Nashville.

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  117. Mercurial Outfielder

    [quote name=Lebron]At the end of the day, all of you people rooting for me to fail, tomorrow you’ll have to wake up and post on the same blog that you had before you woke up today. You got the same personal problems you had today and I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things I want to do.[/quote]You need to add “show up in the 4th quarter” to your list of things you want to do.

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  118. Mish

    [quote name=Jame Gumb]Unless you have a gun, staying inside would be the most fun.[/quote]What makes you think I wouldn’t have a gun? (dying laughing)

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  119. Mercurial Outfielder

    Someone asked Lebron for change of a dollar after the game, but Lebron didn’t have a 4th quarter.

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  120. Aisle424

    [quote name=jtsunami]I believe Gordon Biersch is a brewery based out of Atlanta. Might be worth checking out. Also Buckhead is a very popular district. When I was pretty young, we went to the famous Buckhead Diner. I remember it being good but especially because of the sweet and sour calimari. Coca-Cola is HQed in Atlanta (they have a tour of the facility). About all I know.[/quote]
    A fun thing to do is to go around town always ordering a Pepsi, and when they ask if you would like Coke instead, tell them you can’t have Coke because you used to have a wicked drug problem and that you know they aren’t supposed to use cocaine in the formula anymore, but you can’t take that chance. Then start weeping and tell them how you love your family too much to start down that road again.

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    [quote name=Aisle424]A fun thing to do is to go around town always ordering a Pepsi, and when they ask if you would like Coke instead, tell them you can’t have Coke because you used to have a wicked drug problem and that you know they aren’t supposed to use cocaine in the formula anymore, but you can’t take that chance. Then start weeping and tell them how you love your family too much to start down that road again.[/quote]This is the worst thing to every happen on this blog.

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  122. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Aisle424]A fun thing to do is to go around town always ordering a Pepsi, and when they ask if you would like Coke instead, tell them you can’t have Coke because you used to have a wicked drug problem and that you know they aren’t supposed to use cocaine in the formula anymore, but you can’t take that chance. Then start weeping and tell them how you love your family too much to start down that road again.[/quote]
    I’m proud to be a Coke fiend.

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  123. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Mish]What makes you think I wouldn’t have a gun? (dying laughing)[/quote]
    You’re black, right?

    /wtf
    /racist

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  124. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Aisle424]A fun thing to do is to go to Long John Silvers and be shocked at the prices and say, “Only in New York.”[/quote].

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  125. Aisle424

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]This is the worst thing to every happen on this blog.[/quote]
    Too soon?

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  126. WaLi

    [quote name=Aisle424]A fun thing to do is to go around town always ordering a Pepsi, and when they ask if you would like Coke instead, tell them you can’t have Coke because you used to have a wicked drug problem and that you know they aren’t supposed to use cocaine in the formula anymore, but you can’t take that chance. Then start weeping and tell them how you love your family too much to start down that road again.[/quote](dying laughing)

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  127. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]FLAGGED[/quote]
    I was just trying to say that he and all the other blacks should stop posting here until Sidney Poitier signs up.

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