As you all know by now, Barry Bonds was convicted two days ago for hitting too many home runs. It’s a serious offense in modern America. Punishment has not yet been handed down and no precedent exists. It’s believed Bonds will be get a spanking for each of the 13 home runs he hit above Babe Ruth. There’s still much debate concerning passing Hank Aaron in career home runs, but experts believe that Bonds will be sent to bed without dessert for 3 weeks.
Prosecutors are exploring the idea of requesting Bonds be executed, but are likely to insist instead he be permanently detained in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Said the prosecutor, “there are many others wrongfully detained in Guantanamo Bay so it only seems appropriate Bonds be one of them.” In response to the statement, the American people quickly threw their support behind the prosecution releasing a written statement reading, “That cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater finally gets what’s coming to him. Amerika, Fuck Yeah!”
Although there are surely some spankings and dessertless nights ahead for Bonds, I quickly took a look to see who the new home run leaders were. Turns out, it’s still Barry Bonds. Don’t believe me?
Single Season home run leaderboard
Career home run leaderboard
Told ya.
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Win.
AndCountingQuote Reply
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Vitters 2/4, BB, 2 2B
Dolis 6 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 5 K, 0 BB, 7-2 GO-FO
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I don’t believe in capital punishment or zombies, but I think Barry Bonds should be executed and then we should double-kill his corpse.
I mean, after all, he likely lied about taking a substance so he could use a stick to hit a ball over a wall. The fucking nerve.
MishQuote Reply
I think all the blacks in the HOF should be summarily dismissed and not allowed back in again until Barry Bonds is admitted.
WaLiQuote Reply
People often wonder how many homers Babe Ruth would have hit in the steroid era, but they too easily dismiss the point as moot. We know exactly how many home runs Barry Bonds would have hit in Babe Ruth’s era, because guys like him wouldn’t have been allowed to play.
AndCountingQuote Reply
[quote name=Mish]I don’t believe in capital punishment or zombies and I’m into forgiveness and all that, but I think Barry Bonds should be executed and then we should double-kill his corpse.
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Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Adrian Gonzalez ——> Red Sox, 7/154 extension.
Time for the Cubs to respond by signing Alex Gonzalez, Rodney Myers style (dying laughing).
BerseliusQuote Reply
Chuck’s new post on the Cubs financials:
http://ivychat.blogspot.com/2011/04/cutting-spending.html
Aisle424Quote Reply
In Bonds’ 2004 season when he walked a gazillion times, he also hit 45 homers and struck out just 41 times. He walked 20% of the time and walked over a thousand times more than he struck out. He somehow compiled a career batting average of .298 with a BABIP of .285 for his career (most of which I assume is because of the homers and the overshift later on in his career).
I don’t see how you keep this guy out of the Hall of Fame. Even if he’s a cheating asshole, keeping such a compiler of ridiculous statistics out of Cooperstown is disingenuous.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Because he made baseball cry, RC.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Because he made 762 baseballs cry, RC.[/quote]
This is true.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
(dying laughing) RC, well done.
MishQuote Reply
http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/juror-brings-baseball-glove-to-barry-bonds-perjury,19881/
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Also, thanks for the H/T yesterday. I thought the story was too rediculous not to be true so I didn’t bother looking it up (dying laughing) My friend isn’t that creative
WaLiQuote Reply
I saw this yesterday somewhere and hadn’t really thought about it before, but it’s worth posting here. The player with the most career hits is not in the Hall of Fame. The player with the most career home runs is not in the Hall of Fame (assuming he doesn’t get in, which is a safe assumption for the time being) and the pitcher with the most Wins Above Replacement will also not get in.
If you knew nothing about the Hall of Fame other than it was a place that honored baseball’s greats and I told you that, you’d think it was a joke. What the hell is the point of the Hall of Fame if you’re not even going to honor the best players ever?
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I saw this yesterday somewhere and hadn’t really thought about it before, but it’s worth posting here. The player with the most career hits is not in the Hall of Fame. The player with the most career home runs is not in the Hall of Fame (assuming he doesn’t get in, which is a safe assumption for the time being) and the pitcher with the most Wins Above Replacement will also not get in.
If you knew nothing about the Hall of Fame other than it was a place that honored baseball’s greats and I told you that, you’d think it was a joke. What the hell is the point of the Hall of Fame if you’re not even going to honor the best players ever?[/quote]
Because the BBWAA has to complete their Pontious Pilate routine. Until they accept their own role in the steroid era, nothing is going to change.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Because the BBWAA has to complete their Pontious Pilate routine.[/quote]Is that like a misting station for your hands?
GBTSQuote Reply
Pontius Pilate? Is that like Yanni Yoga?
MishQuote Reply
What’s better than $10 bleachers seats?
$1 tickets in section 438.
Suck on that, Trebek.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Pretty sure if they’re $1 tickets I won’t be staying in 438 for long though (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]
What’s better than $10 bleachers seats?
$1 tickets in section 438.
Suck on that, Trebek.[/quote]That’s actually $2, RC. (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
What the fuck do his testicles have to do with it??
GBTSQuote Reply
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/4/15/2112705/the-barry-bonds-conundrum?login=1302876884#64263209
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[quote name=mb21]That’s actually $2, RC. (dying laughing)[/quote]
The original tickets were actually $2. I got them for $1. 50% discount FTW.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]That’s actually $288, RC. (dying laughing)[/quote].
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
There are
288two ways to define greatest HR hitter. Most HR ever or most HR per AB. Fact. Correct. Misting Station.Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Die fuck laugh.
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[quote name=GBTS](dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
What the fuck do his testicles have to do with it??[/quote]Totally my favorite Tina Turner song.
AndCountingQuote Reply
[quote name=Jame Gumb]There are
288two ways to define greatest HR hitter. Most HR ever or most HR per AB. Fact. Correct. Misting Station.[/quote]What about (Good Feelings)/HR? When I was a kid, Julio Zuleta hit a three run home run on my birthday. It was awesome, and he only hit 9 home runs in his career.Zuleta —-> Greatest Home Run Hitter of All time.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]When I was a kid, Julio Zuleta hit a three run home run on my birthday.[/quote]
Wrong.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
MB, can you check again? I’m not entirely sure if he’s still the all-time HR leader. Do you know a site on the internets where I could look this up?
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[quote name=Berselius]MB, can you check again? I’m not entirely sure if he’s still the all-time HR leader. Do you know a site on the internets where I could look this up?[/quote]
http://www.isbarrybondsthehomerunleadertoday.com
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]www.isbarrybondsthehomerunleadertoday.com[/quote](dying laughing)
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(dying laughing)
Someone at BCB agreed with my summarily dismissed argument.
GBTSQuote Reply
I’m tempted to buy that domain, RC.
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[quote name=GBTS](dying laughing)
Someone at BCB agreed with my summarily dismissed argument.[/quote]
Were you Raymond again?
Definitely, definitely the home run leader.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]www.isbarrybondsthehomerunleadertoday.com[/quote]
I still always click on those in hopes that they actually exist.
XoomwaffleQuote Reply
[quote name=Xoomwaffle]I still always click on those in hopes that they actually exist.[/quote]That one is going to exist within 24 to 48 hours.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Were you Raymond again?
Definitely, definitely the home run leader.[/quote]I don’t want to get Raymond banned until Charlie can post.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]That one is going to exist within 24 to 48 hours.[/quote]It should just take you to this:
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/images/he+is
GBTSQuote Reply
so last night in our league championship I committed 4 errors in the field and pulled my groin. At age 26.
Still managed to get an inside out single to RC. #truegrit
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bleedcubbueblue =
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None of these things in bold have anything to do with playing baseball.
cdwQuote Reply
The funny thing is that there is plenty of evidence to suggest amphetamines improves performance while no such evidence exists for steroids.
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so i suppose it was a coincidence that everybody and their dog was hitting 30 HR’s in the steroid era md? Or that a bunch of slugger who should have been declining instead increased their HR production.
Saying steroids or HGH or whatever don’t have an impact to me is total bullshit.
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The funny thing is Alvin isn’t discussing how either amphetamines or steroids impact baseball performance. He’s just saying steroids are bad while not applying that same opinion to amphetamines…while there is plenty of evidence that amphetamines are horrible for short and long term health.
cdwQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]so last night in our league championship I committed 4 errors in the field and pulled my groin. At age 26.
Still managed to get an inside out single to RC. #truegrit[/quote]
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In 2004, Bonds was the greatest hitter in baseball history. Steroids or not. He walked over 230 times and was intentionally walked 120 times. Unreal.
MuckerQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]The funny thing is that there is plenty of evidence to suggest amphetamines improves performance while no such evidence exists for steroids.[/quote]I don’t know if I agree with that. I think Brady Anderson and Luis Gonzalez are pretty damning evidence.
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again, i know that using softball as an example is kind of apples to oranges but we have a kid on our team who is easily the best player. Went to college on scholarship and still plays semi-pro/clinging on to glory days legion baseball. So he already has a ton of natural talent. He also is a human chemistry lab who looks like the Hulk. The stuff he takes doesn’t make his swing better or his hand eye coordination improve but it does help him work out longer and get stronger. Which helps him hit HR’s that are almost comical.
So to me if you suck ass at baseball to begin with taking a steroid isnt going to make you good but it sure as shit can help already talented players get stronger & play better than they would going au natural.
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[quote name=dylanj]again, i know that using softball as an example is kind of apples to oranges but we have a kid on our team who is easily the best player. Went to college on scholarship and still plays semi-pro/clinging on to glory days legion baseball. So he already has a ton of natural talent. He also is a human chemistry lab who looks like the Hulk. The stuff he takes doesn’t make his swing better or his hand eye coordination improve but it does help him work out longer and get stronger. Which helps him hit HR’s that are almost comical.
So to me if you suck ass at baseball to begin with taking a steroid isnt going to make you good but it sure as shit can help already talented players get stronger & play better than they would going au natural.[/quote]I agree. If the ability was there, the hand eye coordination was there, the swing was there, then taking steriods would help tremendously.
MuckerQuote Reply
Anyone paying attention to the Smokies? Not counting the two at-bats by Mario Mercedes or pitchers, Nate Samson is last on the team with a .885 OPS.
They beat Chris Archer of the Tampa Bay
DevilRays MiLB AA squad 11-2.Archer gave up 3 earned in 4.2.
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Oh, and Vitters with another BB to put his walk rate at 12%.
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[quote name=jtsunami]Anyone paying attention to the Smokies? Not counting the two at-bats by Mario Mercedes or pitchers, Nate Samson is last on the team with a .885 OPS.
They beat Chris Archer of the
Tampa Bay [s]DevilRays[/s]MiLB AA squadMontgomery Biscuits (greatest name ever)11-2.Archer gave up 3 earned in 4.2.[/quote]
Fixed.
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[quote name=Muck Muckintuck]I don’t know if I agree with that. I think Brady Anderson and Luis Gonzalez are pretty damning evidence.[/quote]I’m not saying what my opinion on it is one way or the other. I’m just pointing out that we have several studies confirming that amphetamines improve performance as well as helping players stay on the field more. No such studies exist for steroids. It would be impossible to conduct them. That’s all I’m saying.
One last thing I’ll add as I have no interest in debating any of this is that looking only at home runs and completely ignoring the size of the ballparks is a mistake that far too many people make. The number of home runs by themselves mean absolutely nothing. DJ saying so and so hitting 30 home runs is a pointless comment. Ballparks are much smaller today, the pitcher’s mound is lower, the bats used are far superior, the balls themselves are taken out of play so frequently (no more rain soaked balls, no more balls with scuff, no more balls with lotions or whatever), nutrition is better, people exercise far more often than they ever did (the athletes) and much, much more.
Comparing modern day home run totals to those in the past is like someone coming into work and being upset that the cost of a McDonald’s hamburger isn’t as cheap as it was in 1950.
A lot has changed in baseball since the home run totals people cherish are being thrown around as if they actually represent a benchmark in today’s sport. They do not.
I think steroids helped, but it would be ridiculous of me to just say steroids helped because players hit more home runs. No, more home runs is evidence of the impact of all the other changes I mentioned above. Steroids is a part of that. How much? I have no clue and I don’t even care.
mb21Quote Reply
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/news/2011/2611568.html
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[quote name=jtsunami]Oh, and Vitters with another BB to put his walk rate at 12%.[/quote]It would be huge if he could keep that up.
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[quote name=Jame Gumb]http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/news/2011/2611568.html[/quote]
The Cubs will select #51 with their #9 pick.
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[quote name=mb21]It would be huge if he could keep that up.[/quote]
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Brett Jackson in RF? Or are they letting him play CF?
MuckerQuote Reply
So when will people start crucifying Joe Mauer for not living up to his contract?
GBTSQuote Reply
I don’t know about you, but that’s the reason I don’t go to McDonald’s. Those 1950s prices are an insult to their best customers today.
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[quote name=Muck Muckintuck]Brett Jackson in RF? Or are they letting him play CF?[/quote]CF from what I’ve seen. It appears the RF test last year was just to trick me into think they’re retarded.
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[quote name=mb21]I’m not saying what my opinion on it is one way or the other. I’m just pointing out that we have several studies confirming that amphetamines improve performance as well as helping players stay on the field more. No such studies exist for steroids. It would be impossible to conduct them. That’s all I’m saying.
One last thing I’ll add as I have no interest in debating any of this is that looking only at home runs and completely ignoring the size of the ballparks is a mistake that far too many people make. The number of home runs by themselves mean absolutely nothing. DJ saying so and so hitting 30 home runs is a pointless comment. Ballparks are much smaller today, the pitcher’s mound is lower, the bats used are far superior, the balls themselves are taken out of play so frequently (no more rain soaked balls, no more balls with scuff, no more balls with lotions or whatever), nutrition is better, people exercise far more often than they ever did (the athletes) and much, much more.
Comparing modern day home run totals to those in the past is like someone coming into work and being upset that the cost of a McDonald’s hamburger isn’t as cheap as it was in 1950.
A lot has changed in baseball since the home run totals people cherish are being thrown around as if they actually represent a benchmark in today’s sport. They do not.
I think steroids helped, but it would be ridiculous of me to just say steroids helped because players hit more home runs. No, more home runs is evidence of the impact of all the other changes I mentioned above. Steroids is a part of that. How much? I have no clue and I don’t even care.[/quote]I agree. It’s not just the Roids. Lot of factors go into HR spike. Being stronger is going to help you hit the ball farther. Especially the lead-off hitter types that normally wouldn’t hit many HRs. I’m with you, I don’t care. Baseball sure was fun to watch during the Steriod Era.
MuckerQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]CF from what I’ve seen. It appears the RF test last year was just to trick me into think they’re retarded.[/quote]They don’t need to trick me, I know they are retarded.
MuckerQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]It appears the RF test last year was just to trick me into think they’re retarded.[/quote]
One of many “tricks.”
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What’s the consensus on what the Cubs will do in the draft? BPA? (dying laughing)
MuckerQuote Reply
Oops, image doesn’t work. Just my $2 ticket with a ROFL indicator.
It’s nice of the Cubs to make it easier for a family to go to a ballgame together.
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[quote name=Muck Muckintuck]What’s the consensus on what the Cubs will do in the draft? BPA? (dying laughing)[/quote]
The No. 9 pick will be:
1. Athletic middle infielder/CF OR very big/small power pitcher.
2. High floor
3. Signable
4. Wilken’s favorite player, regardless of perceived value.
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The whole idea that Luis Gonzalez’s stats are out of whack, but Roger Maris’s aren’t is another thing that bothers me. Maris went from 16 to 39 to 61 and then back to 33 and down into the 20s. Gonzalez went fro 26 to 31 to 57 and then back into the high 20s. You cannot possibly believe that one of those is out of whack without believing the other is. Baseball is filled with examples like this. How about 14, 16, 19, 30, 40 (led the league)? That’s the honorable Ryne Sandberg. It’s also interesting to point that out because steroids became widespread in 1988. Sandberg hit 19 in 1988. He then hit 122 home runs over the next 4 seasons before hitting only 9 and retiring.
I’m not saying Sandberg used. I don’t know if he did or not, but those are numbers that jump out at a lot of people. Just because he stood on a podium and talked about steroids means he didn’t do them? How many times have we been lied to by politicians? Sandberg’s OPS went from .741 (in the middle of a player’s typical peak), to .809 to .853, .913, .865 and .881. His slugging went from .411, .442, .419, .497, .559, .485, .510, and back to .412.
I’m pretty sure DJ will tell you the first sign of a player using is a huge increase in something or another. Well, right there it is for Sandberg right in the middle of the steroid era beginning in MLB. How come nobody says he took them? His stats jump out at you as much as nearly any other player’s do.
******I am not saying Sandberg took them. I’m pointing out that weird shit happens all the time in baseball********
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It’s fresh: http://obstructedview.net/chicago-cubs/previews/series-preview-chicago-cubs-6-6-at-colorado-rockies-10-2.html
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[quote name=Muck Muckintuck]I agree. It’s not just the Roids. Lot of factors go into HR spike. Being stronger is going to help you hit the ball farther. Especially the lead-off hitter types that normally wouldn’t hit many HRs. I’m with you, I don’t care. Baseball sure was fun to watch during the Steriod Era.[/quote]The thing about the leadoff hitter type is that those guys have declined. Teams have realized that speed isn’t as valuable as they once thought and they’re focusing now on OBP instead (except for the Cubs). Players with a high OBP are also more than likely going to hit for some decent power (generally speaking of course). The game just isn’t the same game people watched when they were children.
Ultimately though, I couldn’t care less what another human puts in his or her body. It’s their body to do with as they please. If they want to put chemicals in it, go for it.
By the way, is sports the only profession on earth that improved performance is seen as a bad thing? I can’t think of any other profession in which people would complain about improved performance.
Boss: Johnny, you’re performance has improved way too much in recent weeks and we’re no longer comfortable keeping someone like you around.
The idea of that is laughable. In every single profession, people want improved performance. Except sports.
Just goes to show that fans still don’t see the athletes as employees, which is unfortunate because that’s exactly what they are. I think when fans do begin to see athletes that way, they aren’t going to care either.
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