Bruce Levine is reporting the Cubs have fired Jim Hendry.
The Chicago Cubs relieved Jim Hendry of his duties as vice president and general manager on Friday, according to a source familiar with the situation.
Another positive step in the right direction. Mike Quade just lost his job, too, but he hasn’t been informed yet. No way a new GM keeps him around.
UPDATES: Randy Bush is the new GM, which I’m assuming is on an interim basis.
Hendry admitted he was fired on July 22nd, but stuck around to see to it that the draft picks were signed. Had the authority to make trades, but felt the next GM should do that.
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Randy Bush taking over for now
dylanjQuote Reply
you would have to assume Quade is out too right?
dylanjQuote Reply
Who would manage the team? Listach?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]you would have to assume Quade is out too right?[/quote]Yeah, I can’t imagine any scenario in which he is the manager next season. Doubtful he’s fired right now, but that wouldn’t surprise me either.
mb21Quote Reply
Oh yeah, if the Cubs do this right, the Rays just lost their GM.
mb21Quote Reply
Sweet. So apparently Ricketts just wanted to start the awesome train going all at once with the draft, instead of spacing the good things out.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Who would manage the team? Listach?[/quote]Random fan. It would be great for ticket sales.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Random fan. It would be great for ticket sales.[/quote]Player-manager. I vote Castro.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Random fan. It would be great for ticket sales.[/quote]
Let’s let Al Yellon manage the team so we can make a late run at the #1 pick.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Unrelated, but from the website:
(dying laughing)
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Player-manager. I vote Castro.[/quote]That would be awesome. He could potentially be an MLB manager for the next 60 years. (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Unrelated, but from the website:
(dying laughing)[/quote]
Holy early-90s Batman.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Shut me right up.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]you would have to assume Quade is out too right?[/quote]
I’d imagine they’ll let him ride out the season. Bush is the interim, so I don’t think he’ll be hiring a new manager before they decide he’s the guy or hire someone else.
Aisle424Quote Reply
Q got a vote of confidence from the owners according to the Chicagoland media earlier this week. It’d be funny if he were fired after the Cubs lose 20-2 today.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Oh yeah, if the Cubs do this right, the Rays just lost their GM.[/quote]
You think he really wants to leave TB?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]You think he really wants to leave TB?[/quote]
I realize that sounds like a dumb question (dying laughing) but I always thought he was buddies with the owner.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
god chicago sports radio is awful
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]You think he really wants to leave TB?[/quote]Yeah, I think the Cubs can offer 5 times as much as the Rays and he’ll gladly pack his shit and move to Chicago. How many GMs out there would prefer to remain a GM of a small market franchise? Most GMs would prefer to have a lot of money to use and it’s difficult for me ot believe that Freidman is any different.
mb21Quote Reply
This could be really good. An awesome draft, then restructure the org and rebuild. I really hope this turns out to be the shakeup we’ve been waiting for.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]god
chicagosports radio is awful[/quote].mb21Quote Reply
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]This could be really good. An awesome draft, then restructure the org and rebuild. I really hope this turns out to be the shakeup we’ve been waiting for.[/quote]It will be nice. The Cubs will have a lot of holes to fill. Assuming Bush doesn’t get the job and I think there’s a less than 1% chance of that happening, Quade and probably most of the coaching staff is gone. Wilken and some or most of the scouting staff are gone.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]It will be nice. The Cubs will have a lot of holes to fill. Assuming Bush doesn’t get the job and I think there’s a less than 1% chance of that happening, Quade and probably most of the coaching staff is gone. Wilken and some or most of the scouting staff are gone.[/quote]I’m hoping for a minor league shakeup as well. Maybe Tom doesn’t have control over all levels — I’m not sure how the org is structured — but given the weirdly consistent problems documented in the MiLB players, it would be nice to at least see a thorough investigation of where they could improve.
binkyQuote Reply
As interim GM I’m guessing they put a lot of restrictions on what Randy Bush is allowed to do now…
Rice CubeQuote Reply
20 bucks says Ricketts keeps Wilken
dylanjQuote Reply
Isn’t Randy Bush a pitcher?
binkyQuote Reply
Randy Bush ——-> Worst. Pornstar name. Ever.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]Isn’t Randy Bush a pitcher?[/quote]
If Randy Wells and Dave Bush had a mutant baby.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]If Randy Wells and Dave Bush had a mutant baby.[/quote]I’d pay to see that.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]20 bucks says Ricketts keeps Wilken[/quote]$20 says Wilken tenders his resignation. Why would he stick around and work for a guy he doesn’t know? Wilken has been in this game too long to put himself in that position.
mb21Quote Reply
And why on earth would a GM take the Cubs job if he can’t even hire his own scouting director? If Ricketts wants Wilken, then the list of available GMs just got a lot smaller and a lot less interesting. Randy Bush might even be at the top of such a list.
mb21Quote Reply
because this is the cubs md. we will half ass firing the GM just like everything else
dylanjQuote Reply
The bottom line is that these decisions with regards to who stays and goes are going to be left to the new GM. You won’t find but the most desperate person if you hire someone and force him to use their people. In fact, Jim Hendry is at the top of that list since he’s been fired. If Ricketts is going to do that, Jim Hendry is hired as GM this offseason. I highly doubt Ricketts is that stupid and will let the GM make those decisions. Make the GM keeps Wilken, but I’m guessing Wilken resigns before that’s an option.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]because this is the cubs md. we will half ass firing the GM just like everything else[/quote]It’s funny that I’m now one of the more optimistic people with regards to this. I don’t know they’ll hire, but Ricketts is a businessman and he knows if he’s hiring someone to basically run it, they’re going to want their own people. To me, firing Hendry is accepting of that. I just don’t see Hendry being fired if there were other coaches or scouts the club wanted to keep. Those are Hendry’s guys. I’m not even sure why anybody would want one of his guys to stick around anyway?
mb21Quote Reply
Interesting timing on this in regards to the MLBPA grievance.
binkyQuote Reply
I wonder if Ricketts is displeased with how Hendry has handled the Z incident, or if he wanted someone else to negotiate with MLBPA or something.
binkyQuote Reply
he was actually fired july 22nd
dylanjQuote Reply
And seriously, if Tom Ricketts looks at the state of the minor league organization, how could he possibly reach a conclusion that he wants to keep the person who has been in charge of it for the last 6 years?
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]he was actually fired july 22nd[/quote]Who?
mb21Quote Reply
hendry. ricketts told him then he was out but hendry stayed on to sign the draft picks
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]I wonder if Ricketts is displeased with how Hendry has handled the Z incident, or if he wanted someone else to negotiate with MLBPA or something.[/quote]I doubt that had anything to do with it. I’m sure Ricketts wants to not pay Zambrano even more than Hendry wanted since it’s his money.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]hendry. ricketts told him then he was out but hendry stayed on to sign the draft picks[/quote]Oh, is that what they’re saying now?
mb21Quote Reply
yeah
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]he was actually fired july 22nd[/quote]Sweet. That was my birthday. And here I thought the Cubs got me nothing!
binkyQuote Reply
poor bastard worked for a month knowing he was out.
dylanjQuote Reply
Dont know how i feel about this to be honest… I feel like he did a pretty ok job.. Not the best. Not the worst
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]yeah[/quote]That makes sense why the Cubs didn’t do anything at the deadline. Why would you let a guy who has been fired do anything other than lock up the guys he drafted?
mb21Quote Reply
hendry said he had authority to trade but felt that the next GM should make those decisions
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]Dont know how i feel about this to be honest… I feel like he did a pretty ok job.. Not the best. Not the worst[/quote]To me, it doesn’t really matter. I feel like they needed a shakeup. Maybe that’s irrational, but I think the Cubs need new blood.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]Dont know how i feel about this to be honest… I feel like he did a pretty ok job.. Not the best. Not the worst[/quote]Yeah, I don’t have the disgust for him that some do. I think it’s a step in the right direction. The club had fallen apart after 2008 and while I don’t blame Hendry, he is the GM and those are the guys you fire when shit goes wrong. Shit went wrong twice in his tenure (after 2004 and then after 2008).
mb21Quote Reply
WTF? RT @thekapman Hendry just admitted that he was fired on July 22nd. He stayed on to help get all the draft picks signed
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]hendry said he had authority to trade but felt that the next GM should make those decisions[/quote]Good decision in my opinion.
mb21Quote Reply
i agree i mean you can still trade Marmol or Dempster or whoever in the off season. Carlos Pena was not going to give us any kind of real prospect anyways
dylanjQuote Reply
i still think you’re a bit harsh on wilken md- they team didnt give him any money to spend. Hard to build a good farm like that
dylanjQuote Reply
Wow.
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
I mean the way i see it: Hendry made some really good moves, some really and some moves that made me just wonder.
I mean in 2007 the previous owner told him to spend a lotta money to make the team more vlauable so we have soriao
our manager told him to get a lefty bat so we got milton bradley
our 2 amazing cant miss prospects arms fell off
another one is a fucking and i mean fucking nutbag
2008 we were real good defense collapses
And then even after getting fired he decides to stay on for a month to help the organization. Best of luck Jim. Hope all goes well
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
From another message board
(dying laughing) (dying laughing)
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
TheCCO ChicagoCubsOnline
#Cubs As Hendry left the room said, “Tell Bushy to go hug Albert for me.”
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
Yeah, he’s a real generous soul. Whatever. He was given carte blanche and couldn’t do that right. I’m not sad to see him go.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]i agree i mean you can still trade Marmol or Dempster or whoever in the off season. Carlos Pena was not going to give us any kind of real prospect anyways[/quote]Exactly.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]i still think you’re a bit harsh on wilken md- they team didnt give him any money to spend. Hard to build a good farm like that[/quote]I don’t disagree with that, but the Cubs gave Simpson a million bucks when they could have had him several rounds later for $150,000 at the most. They could have had Colvin for much less, but since he was a first rounder that wasn’t possible. I agree there are other things to consider. It’s not all his fault and I’d never say it was, but even with the money the Cubs spent, or lack thereof, the Cubs farm system should be better. How many more years do we have to wait until we can evaluate Wilken? Does he really need a decade as the scouting director for that?
Jim Hendry got fired because the Cubs suck. How does Tim Wilken keep his job when the Cubs minor league system sucks?
mb21Quote Reply
I am thinking that uber-GM-to-be-hired can probably find a decent scouting director so losing Wilken doesn’t bug me all that much.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Rick Hahn from White Sox is one of the names being tossed around.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
ricketts says he wants a GM with a stronger sabr background that what the org has right now
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]I am thinking that uber-GM-to-be-hired can probably find a decent scouting director so losing Wilken doesn’t bug me all that much.[/quote]I agree. I have zero care about Wilken or anyone else leaving.
binkyQuote Reply
Ricketts indicates he will strongly recommend the new GM keep Wilken & Fleita but its up to the GM to hire his own folks
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]Ricketts indicates he will strongly recommend the new GM keep Wilken & Fleita but its up to the GM to hire his own folks[/quote]Yeah, if he wants to, that’s fine, but I’m not about to shed a tear if he goes or resigns. Maybe he’s the best scouting director in history, but the minors are in shambles and besides, a GM with a strong central vision, I think, could do more than a guy with a strong scouting director who doesn’t jive with his ideas.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]ricketts says he wants a GM with a stronger sabr background that what the org has right now[/quote]
I guess Randy Bush better start reading “The Book” (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
he said no internal candidates for GM will be considered
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]I guess Randy Bush better start reading “The Book” (dying laughing)[/quote]
Shut me right up…Ricketts wants to look elsewhere.
Quade is so fired.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Ryne Sandberg —-> Next Manager
Greg Maddux —-> Next GM
Jerome Walton —-> Next Hitting Coach
adnielsenQuote Reply
[quote name=adnielsen]Ryne Sandberg —-> Next Manager
Greg Maddux —-> Next GM
Jerome Walton —-> Next Hitting Coach[/quote]
false
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=adnielsen]Ryne Sandberg —-> Next Manager
Greg Maddux —-> Next GM
Jerome Walton —-> Next Hitting Coach[/quote]Brooks Kieschnick/Felix Pie —–> Next Co-Scouting Directors
adnielsenQuote Reply
The [quote name=adnielsen]Ryne Sandberg —-> Next Manager
Greg Maddux —-> Next GM
Jerome Walton —-> Next Hitting Coach[/quote]
False. Dwight Smith ——– hitting coach
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]ricketts says he wants a GM with a stronger sabr background that what the org has right now[/quote]I really hope this doesn’t mean Ari Kaplan is getting a promotion.
This is two strong, decisive moves in a row for Ricketts, though, with the draft and this move now. He just has to keep it going. He wants to be the Red Sox? Go get the next Theo.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=adnielsen]Ryne Sandberg —-> Next Manager
Greg Maddux —-> Next GM
Jerome Walton —-> Next Hitting Coach[/quote]Hector Villanueva ————-> Fitness Instructor
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
I really think he is going after Friedman.
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Hector Villanueva ————-> Fitness Instructor[/quote]HAHAHAHAHAH
adnielsenQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]Ricketts indicates he will strongly recommend the new GM keep Wilken & Fleita but its up to the GM to hire his own folks[/quote]Why Fleita? Honestly, you look at the systemic problems in the minors, and it seems odd to want to retain the person who presided over it.
Also, the local beat guys, the Manolantern excluded, have egg all over their faces right now.
Mercurial OutfielderQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]I really think he is going after Friedman.[/quote]
—> 
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Ricketts wants a GM with a sabr background
He wants a guy who comes from “a culture of winning”
And he wants to keep Wilken
Friedman fits the bill- Wilken was his scouting director before he took this job. Done deal sealed
dylanjQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]Ricketts wants a GM with a sabr background
He wants a guy who comes from “a culture of winning”
And he wants to keep Wilken
Friedman fits the bill- Wilken was his scouting director before he took this job. Done deal sealed[/quote]
It just might work.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
[quote name=adnielsen]Ryne Sandberg —-> Next Manager
Greg Maddux —-> Next GM
Jerome Walton —-> Next Hitting Coach[/quote]I think there’s a good chance that Sandberg is the next manager. Never thought about Walton as a hitting coach. Has he done that anywhere? Does Maddux have any interest in being a GM or working full-time? I’m guessing they go after Friedman for GM.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]I really think he is going after Friedman.[/quote]Agreed. That’s more than likely his number one choice and as long as the Cubs offer him similar money to what the Rays will, I can’t imagine he’ll not take it.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I think there’s a good chance that Sandberg is the next manager. [/quote]
It’d be a weird about-face for Ryno to come back after all but telling the Cubs to go fuck themselves.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
wut?
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]It’d be a weird about-face for Ryno to come back after all but telling the Cubs to go fuck themselves.[/quote]To be fair, they started it.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=josh]
I’d pay to see that.[/quote]
Interesting fetish.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]It’d be a weird about-face for Ryno to come back after all but telling the Cubs to go fuck themselves.[/quote]
Don’t worry, I’m never coming back.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]Ricketts wants a GM with a sabr background
He wants a guy who comes from “a culture of winning”
And he wants to keep Wilken
Friedman fits the bill- Wilken was his scouting director before he took this job. Done deal sealed[/quote]And after one year as GM, the Rays replaced Wilken and have built what has been the best overall farm system in baseball since. Maybe it’s nothing, but it’s not unreasonable to think one or the other didn’t want to work with the other. Friedman is obviously a saber GM and Wilken isn’t anything like that. I don’t know anything about Matt Arnold, but I’m pretty sure he’s the guy who they replaced Wilken with. I doub the Rays are the least bit unhappy with that decision. I could see Arnold coming with Friedman.
mb21Quote Reply
I guess Arnold was promoted in 2009
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=adnielsen]Ryne Sandberg —-> Next Manager
Greg Maddux —-> Next GM
Jerome Walton —-> Next Hitting Coach[/quote]
adnielsen —-> faget
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]It’d be a weird about-face for Ryno to come back after all but telling the Cubs to go fuck themselves.[/quote]
More realistically, he probably was telling Hendry to go fuck himself.
But I can’t believe they would go back down that road again so soon.
Aisle424Quote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]It’d be a weird about-face for Ryno to come back after all but telling the Cubs to go fuck themselves.[/quote]I’d guess the Cubs managerial job is still his dream job. Plus, the Cubs can now blame his departure on Hendry and Ricketts can make nice with him.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Aisle424]More realistically, he probably was telling Hendry to go fuck himself.
But I can’t believe they would go back down that road again so soon.[/quote]I think it depends. The odds of the Cubs rebuilding has increased significantly so if that’s the way they go I’d expect Sandberg would get the job no problem. If they instead want to contend, which may be difficult to do not having a GM, they may look to a guy like Bobby Valentine.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I guess Arnold was promoted in 2009[/quote]He was promoted, but the Rays didn’t have a Director of Scouting before 2009
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I think there’s a good chance that Sandberg is the next manager. Never thought about Walton as a hitting coach. Has he done that anywhere? Does Maddux have any interest in being a GM or working full-time? I’m guessing they go after Friedman for GM.[/quote]Sorry I was being a sarcastic faggot (doc check your spelling)
adnielsenQuote Reply
Draysbay interview with Matt Arnold:
Hire him. Right now.
mb21Quote Reply
Maybe I am overstating this, but would Friedman want Ryno? “The Extra 2%” goes into how Maddon was cut from the same cloth as Sternberg, Friedman, and Silverman. Ryno seems more like a traditionalist to me…
MishQuote Reply
Wow, there is at least a non-zero chance that this rules. The rays of hope being discussed in this thread have buoyed my spirits already. Faget points for everyone!
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=Mish]Maybe I am overstating this, but would Friedman want Ryno? “The Extra 2%” goes into how Maddon was cut from the same cloth as Sternberg, Friedman, and Silverman. Ryno seems more like a traditionalist to me…[/quote]Wanna be like the Red Sox, take a guy who was a traditionalist like Theo and turn him into what would now be considered a saber-manager. The advantage to hiring someone like Ryno is that you have more control. It’s the same reason the Rays want a guy like Joe Maddon. They can tell him to wash dishes, change diapers and he’ll do it. To me, that’s the kind of manager that Friedman is going to want. Basically, the same type of manager that Billy Beane and Theo Epstein want. They want someone they can tell to do whatever they want and they’ll behave like good little children. In other words, if Sandberg wants his dream job, he’s going to do it Friedman’s way. No reason to believe he can’t.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=fang2415]Wow, there is at least a non-zero chance that this rules. The rays of hope being discussed in this thread have buoyed my spirits already. Faget points for everyone![/quote]
Minus faget points to me for the accidental pun. But wow, I really hope that it becomes a more relevant pun during the off-season.
Where’d the Rays find Friedman anyway? Not that it really matters — tiny teams like that need to find the next genius before anybody knows about him. Teams like the Cubs just need to hire the most recent previous genius.
fang2415Quote Reply
^^^ Wall Street.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=dylanj]ricketts says he wants a GM with a stronger sabr background that what the org has right now[/quote]Link or gtfo.
GBTSQuote Reply
Wait Hendry has been fired for a month, and none of the intrepid beat reporters had any idea? I refuse to believe that.
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]Wait Hendry has been fired for a month, and none of the intrepid beat reporters had any idea? I refuse to believe that.[/quote]Not only that, but told us he was GM through next year.
binkyQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Link or gtfo.[/quote]Correct.
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=GW]Wait Hendry has been fired for a month, and none of the intrepid beat reporters had any idea? I refuse to believe that.[/quote]Sullivan is still trying to grasp the financial details of the Nomar trade.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I really hope this doesn’t mean Ari Kaplan is getting a promotion.
This is two strong, decisive moves in a row for Ricketts, though, with the draft and this move now. He just has to keep it going. He wants to be the Red Sox? Go get the next Theo.[/quote]
Hell, make a call to the first Theo. It’s not like his relationship with the Boston ownership is all sunshine and happiness.
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]Wait Hendry has been fired for a month, and none of the intrepid beat reporters had any idea? I refuse to believe that.[/quote]
It wouldn’t have happened if the media reported it.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
If Al Yellon interviewed Paul Sullivan on who really has to pay Carlos Silva, it would last for 17 years.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=bubblesdachimp]I mean the way i see it: Hendry made some really good moves, some really and some moves that made me just wonder.
I mean in 2007 the previous owner told him to spend a lotta money to make the team more vlauable so we have soriao
our manager told him to get a lefty bat so we got milton bradley
our 2 amazing cant miss prospects arms fell off
another one is a fucking and i mean fucking nutbag
2008 we were real good defense collapses
And then even after getting fired he decides to stay on for a month to help the organization. Best of luck Jim. Hope all goes well[/quote]Yeah, I kind of liked Hendry and I’m sure he’s a good egg. But he did do stuff like hire Ari Kaplan in a statistical analysis role, apparently without irony.
I do wish him health and happiness in his future endeavors; I wouldn’t even have minded if they moved him “sideways” in the org somewhere to save face. (Nippon Ham Fighters?)
But all in all it’s hard not to feel a bit more of this:
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]It wouldn’t have happened if the media reported it.[/quote]That doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t have been true when they did report it.
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=fang2415]That doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t have been true when they did report it.[/quote]
That only applies to sources.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=GW]Hell, make a call to the first Theo. It’s not like his relationship with the Boston ownership is all sunshine and happiness.[/quote]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2sKH8yjVsM
fang2415Quote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]If Al Yellon interviewed Paul Sullivan on who really has to pay Carlos Silva, it would last for 17 years.[/quote]
AY: So the Cubs only have to pay a little bit?
PS: Yes.
AY: Not a lot?
PS: No.
AY: Is it more than the cost of a bologna sandwich?
PS: Yes.
AY: More than a Big Gulp?
PS: Yes.
AY: So the Cubs still owe him money?
PS: Yes.
AY: But less than they would have if they kept him?
PS: Yes
AY: So Silva still has money coming to him, and some of that is from the Cubs?
PS: Yes.
…
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
I personally wouldn’t mind Kim Ng, just because I’m curious to see how the Chicago sports media would handle its first prominent minority woman. They’d probably run her out of town for poor driving or dry cleaning.
GBTSQuote Reply
Man, you people are faget-point crazy today.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]I personally wouldn’t mind Kim Ng, just because I’m curious to see how the Chicago sports media would handle its first prominent minority woman. They’d probably run her out of town for poor driving or orange chicken.[/quote]
So racist.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Youre giving Sullivan way too much credit. At least two, maybe three people have to pitch in for that Big Gulp. Through 2014.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]I personally wouldn’t mind Kim Ng, just because I’m curious to see how the Chicago sports media would handle its first prominent minority woman. They’d probably run her out of town for poor driving or dry cleaning.[/quote]
Silly faget, women can’t drive.
MishQuote Reply
[quote name=Mercurial Outfielder] Go get the next Theo.[/quote]
GWQuote Reply
Apparently the Cubs were 749-748 under Hendry. Nice of them to let him bow out while he’s ahead.
fang2415Quote Reply
Damn, I’ve been busy all day and finally get a chance to check out the site and see what you fagets are talking about and I see this news. Pretty surprising considering all the reports saying he was probably staying and even more surprising to see he was canned almost a month ago. Oh well, I didn’t hate Hendry but it was definitely time for the Cubs to move on. Depending on what Ricketts does from here on out, I might actually start liking him. In a non-faget way.
MuckerQuote Reply
[quote name=Rice Cube]Rick Hahn from White Sox is one of the names being tossed around.[/quote]So since I’m sure we’ll hear this a lot from the intrepid fourth estate of Chicago sports in the next few months… Could that actually be good? I don’t know anything about Hahn, but I find it hard to believe that there could be anybody smart in the White Sox organization, except maybe by accident.
fang2415Quote Reply
This was the Hobbit’s article in the Tribune this morning. Summary: “Hendry is in really good spirits lately, which I take to mean he’s been told his job is secure for next year” (dying laughing)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0819-cubs-chicago–20110819,0,605834.story
WenningtonsGorillaCockQuote Reply
Twitter smackdown goin’ on:
“BruceMiles2112 Bruce Miles
Rickett to impose cone of silence in hiring process of new GM. Uh-huh. #Cubs”
“mlbtraderumors MLB Trade Rumors
Did manage to keep firing under wraps for a month. RT @BruceMiles2112: Rickett to impose cone of silence in hiring process of new GM.”
WenningtonsGorillaCockQuote Reply
Uh…
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/post/_/id/7038/possible-candidates-to-lead-the-cubs
fang2415Quote Reply
I really don’t see what is so strange about the Cubs firing Hendry a month ago and having him continue at his job. We fired MB on like the 3rd day of the blog and he’s still here pissing all over the Cubs farm system.
Aisle424Quote Reply
Nice roundup of tweet-o-mania so far: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/chicago_cubs/
Booooooooooooo
fang2415Quote Reply
I’d like the Cubs to hurry and hire the next person, whoever it is, just so I can get started hating them.
Chris DickersonQuote Reply
(dying laughing)
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22](dying laughing)[/quote]
Was just about to (dying laughing).
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Chris Dickerson]I’d like the Cubs to hurry and hire the next person, whoever it is, just so I can get started hating them.[/quote](dying laughing)
MuckerQuote Reply
Merkin needs to marry this woman and make her hyphenate her last name.
http://www.mignonfaget.com/about-mignon/index.html
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
In fact, I think the next person to register for this site should be forced to post under the name Mignon Faget-Merkin.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]Merkin needs to marry this woman and make her hyphenate her last name.
http://www.mignonfaget.com/about-mignon/index.html%5B/quote%5D
And their ceremony should take place at this hotel:
http://www.danubiushotels.com/en/our_hotels/romania/sovata/hotel_faget
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Then they should move here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dildo,_Newfoundland_and_Labrador
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=WenningtonsGorillaCock]This was the Hobbit’s article in the Tribune this morning. Summary: “Hendry is in really good spirits lately, which I take to mean he’s been told his job is secure for next year” (dying laughing)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0819-cubs-chicago–20110819,0,605834.story%5B/quote%5D
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
How on earth is that “calling a bluff?”
Z: I think I’ll fold.
Hendry: I will respect that (takes the pot).
Sullivan: Brilliant call!
GBTSQuote Reply
And eat these every Sunday:
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Pretty sure she was born in this village:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking,_Austria
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22]Pretty sure she was born in this village:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking,_Austria%5B/quote%5D
Her family ran a restaurant specializing in Vietnamese/British fusion called Pho King Faggots.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Brenly marveled at Berkman’s 2-out RBI total. Apparently 1/3 of his RBI come with 2 outs. Wow.
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Brenly marveled at Berkman’s 2-out RBI total. Apparently 1/3 of his RBI come with 2 outs. Wow.[/quote]I’ll bet another 1/3 come with 0 outs, and another 1/3 come with 1 out.
He’s probably terrible with 3 outs though.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22]Pretty sure she was born in this village:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking,_Austria%5B/quote%5D
Many a night, they’d go to bed listening to their parents tell them the story of Hans Brinker.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
(dying laughing)
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Dr Taint has a searchbot set up for Olde Tyme Racist Imagery so he he doesn’t have to look for it himself.
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
[quote name=fang2415]
[/quote]I was going to post that if someone hadn’t already. My favorite gif and immediately what I thought of when I read this. Woohoo!
But all in all it’s hard not to feel a bit more of this:
WaLiQuote Reply
[quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]
[/quote]Holy shit was is that from?
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22]Holy shit was is that from?[/quote]Does he died?
GBTSQuote Reply
Who the hell jumps into somebody’s windshield then catch a ride on the hood while the car is driving away with haste?
MuckerQuote Reply
[quote name=Muckey]Who the hell jumps into somebody’s windshield then catch a ride on the hood while the car is driving away with haste?[/quote]
^^^^That guy.
Aisle424Quote Reply
Pat Hughes is really overusing the word “rapped” in reference to hitting the ball in any fashion
8volumesthickQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22]Holy shit was is that from?[/quote]
Outside my apartment this morning. That fucker was jumping on my car every day.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22]Dr Taint has a searchbot set up for Olde Tyme Racist Imagery so he he doesn’t have to look for it himself.[/quote]
It’s not racist, it’s just really caustic soap.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Mignon Merkin-Faget from Dildo by way of Fucking is tired of cooking Dr. Brains Faggots, so she borrowed Dr. Taint’s searchbot to come up with new dinner ideas:
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22]Mignon Merkin-Faget from Dildo by way of Fucking is tired of cooking Dr. Brains Faggots, so she borrowed Dr. Taint’s searchbot to come up with new dinner ideas:
Merkin-Faget needs to put her fingers in the dyke.
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Some of you guys are awesome.
Gabe AsherQuote Reply
Cubs trailing 4-1. Barney hits a solo home run. Judd: “Barney cuts the lead in half!”
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Cubs trailing 4-1. Barney hits a solo home run. Judd: “Barney cuts the lead in half!”[/quote]
I’m sure he meant “cuts the lead into half.”
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=Gabe Asher]Some of you guys are awesome.[/quote]
…but not all of you…
Snyds01Quote Reply
[quote name=Snyds01]…but not all of you…[/quote]
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Biggest crowd at Wrigley since 1978. Weird.
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I don’t disagree with that, but the Cubs gave Simpson a million bucks when they could have had him several rounds later for $150,000 at the most. They could have had Colvin for much less, but since he was a first rounder that wasn’t possible. I agree there are other things to consider. It’s not all his fault and I’d never say it was, but even with the money the Cubs spent, or lack thereof, the Cubs farm system should be better. How many more years do we have to wait until we can evaluate Wilken? Does he really need a decade as the scouting director for that?
Jim Hendry got fired because the Cubs suck. How does Tim Wilken keep his job when the Cubs minor league system sucks?[/quote]Huh? How does the Cubs minor league system suck? We just traded away 3 staples to our farm and are still a top 15 system. By all accounts, we just had a great draft. Before this Wilken’s budget was limited. We have graduated a lot of players in recent years.
Sure we didn’t have any true impact players other than Castro, but we have good cost controlled players at the big league level. Combine that with an above average farm that never had a big budget on the draft or internationally, IDK how you can say Wilken sucks.
For fucks sake, we were trying to “tap” into the Korean market before everyone else. Like there was equal or better talent there than Latin America. I know Wilken doesn’t deal with International stuff, but it still shows how limited our budget was for developing and taking top talent.
jtsunamiQuote Reply
[quote name=jtsunami]Huh? How does the Cubs minor league system suck? We just traded away 3 staples to our farm and are still a top 15 system. .[/quote]
I don’t think we are a top 15 system post-trade…
MishQuote Reply
I’m curious who has the current Cub minor league system in their top fifteen.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=jtsunami]Huh? How does the Cubs minor league system suck? We just traded away 3 staples to our farm and are still a top 15 system. [/quote]
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]I’m curious who has the current Cub minor league system in their top fifteen.[/quote]
The antimb21. 12bm!
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
Barack Obama —–> Kevin on Facebook.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Brenly marveled at Berkman’s 2-out RBI total. Apparently 1/3 of his RBI come with 2 outs. Wow.[/quote]Wouldn’t we expect more of his RBI to come with 2 outs? You have more runners on base.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=GBTS](dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
Barack Obama —–> Kevin on Facebook.[/quote]
gbts ————–> faget point
Dr. Aneus TaintQuote Reply
[quote name=jtsunami]Huh? How does the Cubs minor league system suck? We just traded away 3 staples to our farm and are still a top 15 system. By all accounts, we just had a great draft. Before this Wilken’s budget was limited. We have graduated a lot of players in recent years.
Sure we didn’t have any true impact players other than Castro, but we have good cost controlled players at the big league level. Combine that with an above average farm that never had a big budget on the draft or internationally, IDK how you can say Wilken sucks.
For fucks sake, we were trying to “tap” into the Korean market before everyone else. Like there was equal or better talent there than Latin America. I know Wilken doesn’t deal with International stuff, but it still shows how limited our budget was for developing and taking top talent.[/quote]Top 15 only if you ignore how several players in the top 10 have done this season. Only about 4 guys in the top 20 have held their own while the others have dropped.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]Wouldn’t we expect more of his RBI to come with 2 outs? You have more runners on base.[/quote]I was thinking that 2 outs would be a higher % because of RBI groundouts and sac flies, but otherwise they’d be relatively similar.
GBTSQuote Reply
Everyone knows Theriot can’t hit fastballs.
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]I was thinking that less than 2 outs would be a higher % because you can get RBI groundouts and sac flies, but otherwise they’d be relatively similar.[/quote]Fixed myself.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]I was thinking that 2 outs would be a higher % because of RBI groundouts and sac flies, but otherwise they’d be relatively similar.[/quote]If you think about it, though, the longer the inning goes (the more outs) the more baserunners you have and the further they are on the bases.
mb21Quote Reply
The same reason the number 3, 4, 5 hitters have more RBI than the 1-2 hitters would be why there would be more RBI with 2 outs.
mb21Quote Reply
Hooooooooooooooooooooooly shit.
GBTSQuote Reply
22.4% of the RBi with no outs
40.0% with 1 out
37.6% with 2 outs
for 2011 anyway.
I guess the runs scoring on outs is a much bigger part of it than I thought. I knew there has to be more with 2 outs than with 0 outs though.
mb21Quote Reply
That was to make up for the Cardinals back to back dumbass plays conceding triples to Barney and DeWitt.
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Hooooooooooooooooooooooly shit.[/quote]?
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]The same reason the number 3, 4, 5 hitters have more RBI than the 1-2 hitters would be why there would be more RBI with 2 outs.[/quote]Don’t 3 hitters come up with 2 outs and nobody on a good percentage of the time? I thought The Book talked about that in regards to lineup construction.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22]That was to make up for the Cardinals back to back dumbass plays conceding triples to Barney and DeWitt.[/quote]Yeah, horrible baserunner there by a guy whose only value is baserunning and defense.
mb21Quote Reply
And Theriot’s dumbass error letting Campana on base in the first place.
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
[quote name=GBTS]Don’t 3 hitters come up with 2 outs and nobody on a good percentage of the time? I thought The Book talked about that in regards to lineup construction.[/quote]They do, but they come up with more overall runners on base.
mb21Quote Reply
Basically, close to 80% of RBI are with 1 or 2 outs. It seems close to evenly split between those 2 with 1 out at about 20%. If you wanted to use round numbers 20, 40, 40 would be good enough.
mb21Quote Reply
Why does Quade clap his hands like an idiot after bad things happen?
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
So Pena’s 33% RBI on 2 outs is less than you’d expect, but that may be becuase teams are more likely to walk him with 2 outs. Not sure if that’s true, but it’s just a thought.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22]Why does Quade clap his hands like an idiot after bad things happen?[/quote]He’s an idiot.
mb21Quote Reply
I like your new name, SK. I’m hoping more people add the 22 to their name. I’ll feel like I started something.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]So Pena’s 33% RBI on 2 outs is less than you’d expect, but that may be becuase he just wants the inning to end so he can chill with Aramis Ramirez..[/quote]
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I like your new name, SK. I’m hoping more people add the 22 to their name. I’ll feel like I started something.[/quote]Once you explained why you started it, it all seemed to make so much sense.
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
[quote name=mb21]I like your new name, SK. I’m hoping more people add the 22 to their name. I’ll feel like I started something.[/quote]I would but I’ve reached the maximumest number of characters (dying laughing)
WenningtonsGorillaCockQuote Reply
[quote name=WenningtonsGorillaCock]I would but I’ve reached the maximumest number of characters (dying laughing)[/quote]Plus you would need to add “inches” as well.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=Suburban kid 22]Once you explained why you started it, it all seemed to make so much sense.[/quote]You guys should know that everything I do makes sense. Maybe not to anyone else, but to me it does. (dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
Marshall is pretty good.
ACTQuote Reply
BUNT BUNT BUNT BUNT
jtsunamiQuote Reply
Bunting works!
ACTQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Marshall is pretty good.[/quote]Well you can’t have him.
GBTSQuote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Marshall is pretty good.[/quote]
Suburban kid 22Quote Reply
Pujols, Berkman, and Holliday combined for no hits today.
ACTQuote Reply
GW said earlier in the thread he doesn’t believe Hendry was fired on July 22nd. I don’t know if he was or not, but I don’t really see the benefit to lying about it. Most of the beat reporters were fooled, but Kaplan seemed positive Hendry was gone after that point so to me, it’s obvious he’d been given some information.
It doesn’t matter, though. The guys the Cubs could have traded that have value can still be traded in 6 weeks.
mb21Quote Reply
[quote name=ACT]Pujols, Berkman, and Holliday combined for no hits today.[/quote]Sad about Hendry.
GBTSQuote Reply
I wonder what occured on July 22nd that forced Rucketts to tell him he was done. I also find it interesting that Ricketts said he is going to seek advice from others in baseball about how he should move forward. That’s a stark contrast to not wanting a baseball guy to watch his baseball guy remarks. It’s also two years too late. Ricketts should have been ready to have his own baseball guy in place from day one. He had two years during the buying process to consult baseball people and figure shit out. I’m hoping Ricketts finally gets it right but I’m not holding my breath.
melissaQuote Reply
[quote name=mb21]GW said earlier in the thread he doesn’t believe Hendry was fired on July 22nd. I don’t know if he was or not, but I don’t really see the benefit to lying about it. Most of the beat reporters were fooled, but Kaplan seemed positive Hendry was gone after that point so to me, it’s obvious he’d been given some information.
It doesn’t matter, though. The guys the Cubs could have traded that have value can still be traded in 6 weeks.[/quote]
that was just a crack at the beat reporters. i agree that there isn’t any point in them lying about it. I do wonder what precipitated it, though.
GWQuote Reply
[quote name=melissa]It’s also two years too late. Ricketts should have been ready to have his own baseball guy in place from day one. He had two years during the buying process to consult baseball people and figure shit out. I’m hoping Ricketts finally gets it right but I’m not holding my breath.[/quote]
this
GWQuote Reply
new shit: http://obstructedview.net/chicago-cubs/articles/gm-candidates.html
mb21Quote Reply