Math For Dummies

This one Cubs beat reporter continues to say the Cubs have eaten $11.5 million when they released Carlos Silva. I’m assuming you have all figured out this beat reporter is Paul Sullivan because, who the hell else could it be? There’s a problem with what Sullivan is saying.

First, the Cubs were paid to take Silva from the Mariners. The Cubs were paying $8 million of Silva’s $11.5 million this season with the M’s picking up the rest. The Yankees have since picked him up meaning the Yankees will pay him about $390,000 this season. So the Cubs are on the hood for $7.6 million. That’s what the Cubs are paying Carlos Silva. The rest of the money is coming from two other teams. Simple enough, right?

Sullivan insists the Cubs have eaten all $11.5 million because, get this, they signed Marlon Byrd with some of the money they got from the Mariners. That’s right. To illustrate how iditiotc this is, let’s create a similar situation.

You have only $100 to your name. It’s been a rough year. With that $100 you decide you want to spend some of it in the Obstructed View Store. You’re going to spend $22 on this fabulous shirt.

You’re going to get your son something nice. His favorite color is blue and you see the excellent design by Adam and have to spend $15 on it. A happy son in such rough financial times can go a long way.

Throw in $5 in shipping and you’ve spent $42 of the $100 you had. Simple math means you have $58 remaining. Like most Americans, you’re going to spend it and worry about your financial crisis later, but you’re done with the fantastic Obstructed View merchandise. You spend the rest of the mony on a pair of shoes.

Two months after you get the shirts, your son decides green is his favorite color and wants that shirt out of sight. The good news is that at the same time as you’re discussing this with your son, your out of control dog is chewing up both shirts. Half of each shirt is gone and you decide against sewing them together to make one shirt. You throw them out. $42 down the drain. Obviously your dog goes without dinner because of his behavior. That’s a given. Your wife has left you and taken son and the dog with her. It’s not all bad, though. You still have your shoes and you’re loving them.

QUIZ

1. How much money did you receive little or no value from?

A. $22
B. $42
C. $100

2. Did anyone other than Paul Sullivan answer $42?

A. No
B. Nope
C. Nah
D. All of the above

I seriously cannot figure out how Paul Sullivan graduated from college. I don’t even know how he could get into college. How did he graduate middle school? This is simple math.

$11.5 million
-$3 million
-$0.4 million

You don’t add in some random player just to get it back to $11.5 million. The Cubs are paying Marlon Byrd $5.5 million this year. Yes, some of the money they saved they used to sign Byrd, but they didn’t throw Byrd away so you can’t possibly conclude the team threw $11.5 million away.

This is simple addition and subtraction. I know we’re using decimal points, which can really confuse children when they’re first learning math. Perhaps Sullivan is a child? Saying the Cubs threw $11.5 million away is the same as saying you threw $100 away using the above example. Nobody who has ever graduated high school would say that. Nobody!

I know we’ve been advertising the merchandise lately, but I did want to add that the money we do generate from it will help this site run. Adam, Jeff, Tim and I aren’t made of money and although the cost to maintain this site isn’t large and it’s definitely worth every penny of it, a little help is always nice. We know these aren’t the best economic times. We’re not as crazy as Tom Ricketts who asked the state for buckets of money they couldn’t afford. We’re not asking that from any of you. Buying a shirt or a pair of undies isn’t going to put you on our preferred reader’s list because we don’t have one. It won’t give you any special priveleges. You won’t see superior content that others don’t have access to. It’s just the same site, but if you do like some of the merchandise and have a few dollars to spend. we’ll likely put it toward running this site.


161 thoughts on “Math For Dummies”

  3. Your wife has left you and taken son and the dog with her.

    Clearly what you do is start a country music act.

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  6. [quote name=mb21]That was Fukudome who scored, MO.[/quote]No, Fukudome got nailed on Soto’s FC. Soto scored from first on Colvin’s double.

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  8. [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]No, Fukudome got nailed on Soto’s FC. Soto scored from first on Colvin’s double.[/quote]
    That surprised me but was nice to see anyway.

    Very nice math lesson.

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  9. Aside from Z’s 8 innings, that was a ridiculously boring baseball game.

    I’ll take the 8-7 games any day over this nonsense.

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  10. (dying laughing) @ this, MB. Sullivan keeps saying it and the editors keep running it. Unreal.

    Paul Sullivan is easily one of the dumbest bipeds to survive to adulthood.

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  13. [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder](dying laughing) @ this, MB. Sullivan keeps saying it and the editors keep running it. Unreal.

    Paul Sullivan is easily one of the dumbest bipeds to survive to adulthood.[/quote]
    was that like a link?

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  14. [quote name=mb21]Aside from Z’s 8 innings, that was a ridiculously boring baseball game.

    I’ll take the 8-7 games any day over this nonsense.[/quote]
    it was kinda funny though because of the weather, and Z made it all worthwhile.

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  15. [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder](dying laughing) @ this, MB. Sullivan keeps saying it and the editors keep running it. Unreal.

    Paul Sullivan is easily one of the dumbest bipeds to survive to adulthood.[/quote]I wrote this last week after Sullivan had said it again. Not sure if he’s said it since. I figured Adam posted something about the OV Store that day so I didn’t want to post it the same day. It’s very simple math. There’s no fractions, no multiplication or division. You learn this shit very early in life.

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  16. [quote name=Berselius]Clearly what you do is start a country music act.[/quote]
    Thank God and Greyhound, she’s gone.

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  17. [quote name=Horny Goat]it was kinda funny though because of the weather, and Z made it all worthwhile.[/quote]I enjoyed the first 8 innings. Didn’t care much for the final 2. After Z left all I could see was 0-0 and that’s ugly.

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  21. [quote name=mb21]I enjoyed the first 8 innings. Didn’t care much for the final 2. After Z left all I could see was 0-0 and that’s ugly.[/quote]
    0-0 games into the late innings are exciting until you realize that it’s going to suck donkey balls for whoever loses (dying laughing)

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  22. [quote name=mb21]I enjoyed the first 8 innings. Didn’t care much for the final 2. After Z left all I could see was 0-0 and that’s ugly.[/quote]
    I enjoyed Marmol again. If not for a little dribbler and a bad decision by Castro that one game his ERA would be 0.00.

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  24. [quote name=Berselius]0-0 games into the late innings are exciting until you realize that it’s going to suck donkey balls for whoever loses (dying laughing)[/quote]I used to love the low scoring games, b, but not so much anymore. It’s just boring. I want to see offense. I’d much rather see an 8-8 tie in the late innings. Same kind of excitement as the 0-0 game, but at least you’ve seen 16 runs scored as opposed to 0. A 0-0 baseball game is like a 7-6 NFL game. Aside from fans of each team, who the hell is going to sit there and watch all 4 quarters of that?

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  26. [quote name=mb21]I used to love the low scoring games, b, but not so much anymore. It’s just boring. I want to see offense. I’d much rather see an 8-8 tie in the late innings. Same kind of excitement as the 0-0 game, but at least you’ve seen 16 runs scored as opposed to 0. A 0-0 baseball game is like a 7-6 NFL game. Aside from fans of each team, who the hell is going to sit there and watch all 4 quarters of that?[/quote]
    I think it depends on the kind of game. 0-0 games due to shitty offense are much worse than 0-0 games due to great pitching. The weather made this more of the former.

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  27. [quote name=mb21]I used to love the low scoring games, b, but not so much anymore. It’s just boring. I want to see offense. I’d much rather see an 8-8 tie in the late innings. Same kind of excitement as the 0-0 game, but at least you’ve seen 16 runs scored as opposed to 0. A 0-0 baseball game is like a 7-6 NFL game. Aside from fans of each team, who the hell is going to sit there and watch all 4 quarters of that?[/quote]
    moms?

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  28. I ddint see any of the game and only followed it briefly on my phone but it seemed by the late innings Z was hitting 93 on the 4 seamer. I really wish he could get back to the 96 but i think those says are done. But it appears he was throwing two different breaking pitches tonight

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  31. [quote name=Berselius]Lilly is going to pitch in the next series. How many standing ovations?[/quote]
    288.

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  32. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]I ddint see any of the game and only followed it briefly on my phone but it seemed by the late innings Z was hitting 93 on the 4 seamer. I really wish he could get back to the 96 but i think those says are done. But it appears he was throwing two different breaking pitches tonight[/quote]
    isn’t he a better pitcher when topping off in the low 90s?

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  33. [quote name=mb21]I used to love the low scoring games, b, but not so much anymore. It’s just boring. I want to see offense. I’d much rather see an 8-8 tie in the late innings. Same kind of excitement as the 0-0 game, but at least you’ve seen 16 runs scored as opposed to 0. A 0-0 baseball game is like a 7-6 NFL game. Aside from fans of each team, who the hell is going to sit there and watch all 4 quarters of that?[/quote]
    I think the reason is that just five years ago offensive games were way, way more common an occurrence because Roids were still quite rampant, so those 0-0 type games being far fewer and farther between were way more interesting. Now you just don’t get the 10-9 games all that often, so they’re super exciting when they happen.

    Also, a 10-9 game means Castro probably has 15 hits.

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  35. [quote name=Horny Goat]Are you really charging $100 for those t-shirts? all this math is screwing with my brain.[/quote]
    You and me both, HG

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  36. [quote name=Doogolas]I think the reason is that just five years ago offensive games were way, way more common an occurrence because Roids were still quite rampant, so those 0-0 type games being far fewer and farther between were way more interesting. Now you just don’t get the 10-9 games all that often, so they’re super exciting when they happen.

    Also, a 10-9 game means Castro probably has 15 hits.[/quote]
    is scoring really down that much? I want some numbers.

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  38. God Damnit! I just had to go see what BCB thought of Z’s game tonight.

    He did so well because it was cold and the wind was blowing in. (dying laughing)

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  39. [quote name=Berselius]Lilly is going to pitch in the next series. How many standing ovations?[/quote]
    not as many as DeRosa.

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  41. Did Sullivan mention this in another article?

    I’m not generally one to criticize professionals, as I assume that there is a reason they are being paid to do something and I am not.

    But, the crew (outside of Miles) covering the Cubs beat is braindead. Between Muskat saying she wouldn’t trade Barney for Aaron Hill, Gordo talking up Soriano as if he might hit 50 HRs and Sullivan’s complete failure to understand how employee compensation works, I am not sure who is the dumbest.

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  42. [quote name=Lukas]God Damnit! I just had to go see what BCB thought of Z’s game tonight.[/quote]
    why did you do that? (dying laughing)

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  44. [quote name=Lukas]God Damnit! I just had to go see what BCB thought of Z’s game tonight.

    He did so well because it was cold and the wind was blowing in. (dying laughing)[/quote]
    Fuck those motherfuckers.

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  45. [quote name=Horny Goat]is scoring really down that much? I want some numbers.[/quote]
    Yes, it is.
    Here is the NL OPS in 2005 and then last year’s:

    2005: .744OPS 11535 runs scored. 4.5RPG

    2010: .723OPS 11211 runs scored. 4.3RPG

    That’s a pretty damn big difference.

    For example, for one team that’s the difference between scoring:
    2005: 729 Runs
    2010: 699 Runs

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  46. [quote name=Berselius]Julie says there was all sorts of Z bashing happening on the twitters tonight.[/quote]
    before, during or after? Did he punch Quade for taking him out?

    Cubs fans are a fuckle bunch. Credit me with that word. fuck/fickle. yeah.

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  47. [quote name=Horny Goat]before, during or after? Did he punch Quade for taking him out?

    Cubs fans are a fuckle bunch. Credit me with that word. fuck/fickle. yeah.[/quote]
    Good word.

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  48. [quote name=Berselius]I think it depends on the kind of game. 0-0 games due to shitty offense are much worse than 0-0 games due to great pitching. The weather made this more of the former.[/quote]Even a few years ago I used to love the 0-0 pitching gems. I remember the 3 or 4 times Zambrano and Carpenter met up before Carp’s injuries. I loved those. I’d hate them now. Baseball doesn’t have my undivided attention like it did then. As you can tell by the late innings tonight, I had no clue what was going on. Didn’t care. I figured I could get the gist of it by checking it occasionally and basically did.

    That’s also why I much prefer the AL. The odds of a boring game are much less likely because you don’t have 6 to 8 at-bats being taken by ridiculously bad hitters.

    It’s weird. Just a few years ago those used to be my favorite games, but now I hate them. (dying laughing)

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  49. [quote name=Doogolas]Yes, it is.
    Here is the NL OPS in 2005 and then last year’s:

    2005: .744OPS 11535 runs scored. 4.5RPG

    2010: .723OPS 11211 runs scored. 4.3RPG

    That’s a pretty damn big difference.

    For example, for one team that’s the difference between scoring:
    2005: 729 Runs
    2010: 699 Runs[/quote]
    statfaget

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  51. [quote name=Hector Villanueva ]Did Sullivan mention this in another article?

    I’m not generally one to criticize professionals, as I assume that there is a reason they are being paid to do something and I am not.

    But, the crew (outside of Miles) covering the Cubs beat is braindead. Between Muskat saying she wouldn’t trade Barney for Aaron Hill, Gordo talking up Soriano as if he might hit 50 HRs and Sullivan’s complete failure to understand how employee compensation works, I am not sure who is the dumbest.[/quote]
    I’m not sure. I think he did recently and has brought it up on twitter from what I’ve heard.

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  53. Not that I don’t believe Julie, but I need to see evidence of people bashing Zambrano tonight. That’s hard to believe.

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  55. [quote name=Doogolas]I think the reason is that just five years ago offensive games were way, way more common an occurrence because Roids were still quite rampant, so those 0-0 type games being far fewer and farther between were way more interesting. Now you just don’t get the 10-9 games all that often, so they’re super exciting when they happen.

    Also, a 10-9 game means Castro probably has 15 hits.[/quote]I’m not so much talking about those games, but much earlier too. In the 80s and 90s and early 2000s I loved the low scoring games. I’d have taken a 1-0 game over a 5-4 game any day. Over the last 5 years though I’m the exact opposite. Even 5-4 is boring.

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  56. [quote name=mb21]Not that I don’t believe Julie, but I need to see evidence of people bashing Zambrano tonight. That’s hard to believe.[/quote]
    no shit. Nothing to bash. I think it’s just one of those internet rumors you hear about (dying laughing)

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  58. This was probably the first game by Zambrano since his no-hitter in which there was literally nothing to complain about.

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  60. [quote name=mb21]This was probably the first game by Zambrano since his no-hitter in which there was literally nothing to complain about.[/quote]
    Come on. The obvious complaint is why doesn’t Z do this every game. Because clearly he has the talent to do it, just too much of a headcase.

    /BCB’d

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  61. [quote name=mb21]This was probably the first game by Zambrano since his no-hitter in which there was literally nothing to complain about.[/quote]
    Haters gonna hate…

    It’s too bad he didn’t get the win, but the fact that he kept the other team scoreless and the Cubs eventually won anyway is impressive in itself.

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  62. [quote name=mb21]This was probably the first game by Zambrano since his no-hitter in which there was literally nothing to complain about.[/quote]
    I didn’t see any real bashing. Just not giving the credit he deserved. Some people saying it was all cold weather and wind blowing in that did it.

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  64. [quote name=Lukas]I didn’t see any real bashing. Just not giving the credit he deserved. Some people saying it was all cold weather and wind blowing in that did it.[/quote]

    Oh, you weren’t kidding…

    I hate people.

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  66. [quote name=Lukas]I didn’t see any real bashing. Just not giving the credit he deserved. Some people saying it was all cold weather and wind blowing in that did it.[/quote]
    Lukas, aren’t you a Neb fan? I think so.

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  71. [quote name=Lukas]I didn’t see any real bashing. Just not giving the credit he deserved. Some people saying it was all cold weather and wind blowing in that did it.[/quote]

    That wind was really whipping up the K’s tonight; 10 of them to be specific. If bcb was a building, I’d set it on fire.

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  72. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]I am also infuriated by Tyler Hansbroughs punk ass[/quote]
    Eh. I kinda like Hansbrough. If he was on my team I would like the way he plays. Probably doesn’t hurt that I rooted for his brother for 2 years.

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  73. [quote name=Hector Villanueva ]Eh. I kinda like Hansbrough. If he was on my team I would like the way he plays. Probably doesn’t hurt that I rooted for his brother for 2 years.[/quote]
    I hate him for being a tarheel and a crybaby

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  74. [quote name=Hector Villanueva ]Eh. I kinda like Hansbrough. If he was on my team I would like the way he plays. Probably doesn’t hurt that I rooted for his brother for 2 years.[/quote]
    I hate everything that is the ACC and the Big east

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  76. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]Kurt Thomas was an excellent free agent addition[/quote]
    Boozer is Basketball for Alfonso Soriano

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  77. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]I hate everything that is the ACC and the Big east[/quote]
    Big 10 basketball fan? Or SEC? I really don’t like Big10 basketball. I enjoy SEC ball. I think most of the ACC is overrated because of Duke and UNC.

    Big East is by far the best conference to watch during the regular season.

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  78. [quote name=Lukas]You bet, from Omaha.[/quote]
    I made it to the spring game. Carnes and Turner really looked good. Wouldn’t be surprised if Carnes took over if Martinez gets banged up again in the fall, after all I’ve seen and read, and damn, there are so many more playmakers this year compared to the last few. It’s not even close. And they’re all so young. It’s early, but if that talent comes out in real game action, look out.

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  79. [quote name=Horny Goat]I made it to the spring game. Carnes and Turner really looked good. Wouldn’t be surprised if Carnes took over if Martinez gets banged up again in the fall, after all I’ve seen and read, and damn, there are so many more playmakers this year compared to the last few. It’s not even close. And they’re all so young. It’s early, but if that talent comes out in real game action, look out.[/quote]
    Damn I hope so, I hadn’t heard anything about the spring game, other than a few buddies went and left after 30 mins to drink instead (dying laughing)

    I’m pretty interested to see what Starling’s decision will be too. I’m not expecting him to stick around though.

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  80. (dying laughing)

    Massive computer fail tonight. This post has erased the frustration.

    (dying laughing)

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  81. [quote name=Lukas]Damn I hope so, I hadn’t heard anything about the spring game, other than a few buddies went and left after 30 mins to drink instead (dying laughing)

    I’m pretty interested to see what Starling’s decision will be too. I’m not expecting him to stick around though.[/quote]
    Lot of new speedsters on offense, Lukas. Carnes looks like a veteran already and he’s just a redshirt freshman. I don’t even care about Starling. Doubt he even comes here. We’re loaded at QB. Didn’t you watch the highlights?

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  84. [quote name=Hector Villanueva ]Big 10 basketball fan? Or SEC? I really don’t like Big10 basketball. I enjoy SEC ball. I think most of the ACC is overrated because of Duke and UNC.

    Big East is by far the best conference to watch during the regular season.[/quote]
    Went to the University of South Carolina 2010 National Champions of Baseball Gamecocks.

    Dont care for college basketball but revel in the fact that we play a harder schedule in football than the NFC west and our baseball is legit and fun as hell.
    I just hate the Big East and ACC for being pussy football schools. The SEC should get their automatic BCS bids

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  85. of course a lot of it depends on the O-line, Lukas, but the offense will be much more multiple than it has been in many years. They didn’t show much in the scrimmage but all clues point toward a little of everything. So glad to get rid of Watson.

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  86. Bubbles, hope you make it back to the CWS. Brand new stadium in downtown Omaha. Tomorrow night is the very first game there (NU vs Creighton) though the weather is supposed to be really shitty.

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  88. No I haven’t got around to it, I’ll have to later tonight or tommorow. Work too many hours away from tv and the internet (dying laughing)

    I was looking forward to see Carnes for sure. Everyone I know has been talking him up quite a bit. Turner as well. Damn I need to get back in football mode. (dying laughing)

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  89. [quote name=Horny Goat]of course a lot of it depends on the O-line, Lukas, but the offense will be much more multiple than it has been in many years. They didn’t show much in the scrimmage but all clues point toward a little of everything. So glad to get rid of Watson.[/quote]
    Fuck yes, Watson was driving me crazy.

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  90. [quote name=Horny Goat]Bubbles, hope you make it back to the CWS. Brand new stadium in downtown Omaha. Tomorrow night is the very first game there (NU vs Creighton) though the weather is supposed to be really shitty.[/quote]
    Really hope so too. We are #2 in the country right now after taking 2-3 from #1 Vanderbilt this weekend. Interesting players we have are Jackie Bradley Jr., Mike Roth, matt Price, and Bryan Harper (Bryce’s brother) among others

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  91. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]Went to the University of South Carolina 2010 National Champions of Baseball Gamecocks.

    Dont care for college basketball but revel in the fact that we play a harder schedule in football than the NFC west and our baseball is legit and fun as hell.
    I just hate the Big East and ACC for being pussy football schools. The SEC should get their automatic BCS bids[/quote]
    I don’t give a shit about Big East football. Only like their basketball. SEC football is legit, but also so so so shady. They really need to clean it up.

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  92. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]Really hope so too. We are #2 in the country right now after taking 2-3 from #1 Vanderbilt this weekend. Interesting players we have are Jackie Bradley Jr., Mike Roth, matt Price, and Bryan Harper (Bryce’s brother) among others[/quote]
    cool. I didn’t know Bryce’s bro plays there. I wish Neb wasn’t so mediocre nowadays.

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  93. [quote name=Hector Villanueva ]I don’t give a shit about Big East football. Only like their basketball. SEC football is legit, but also so so so shady. They really need to clean it up.[/quote]
    Big east football is such a joke

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  94. [quote name=Hector Villanueva ]I don’t give a shit about Big East football. Only like their basketball. SEC football is legit, but also so so so shady. They really need to clean it up.[/quote]No shadier than any other conference.

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  95. [quote name=Horny Goat]Big east football is such a joke[/quote]
    It’s really a 2nd tier conference. Notice how their best coaches (Rodriguez, Petrino, Kelly, Edsall) regularly get poached. You don’t see that happening even in the ACC.

    I bet Charlie Strong will build up Louisville and leave within 2 years.

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  96. [quote name=Horny Goat]cool. I didn’t know Bryce’s bro plays there. I wish Neb wasn’t so mediocre nowadays.[/quote]
    Cubs drafted him and he instead decided to go to USC. Bryce tweets a lot of good shit about the gamecocks. I kinda love him. I also live in DC now so i am looking froward to watching him play in september.

    Can the bulls stop turning the ball over!

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  97. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]No shadier than any other conference.[/quote]
    You don’t really believe that do you?

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  99. [quote name=Horny Goat]cool. I didn’t know Bryce’s bro plays there. I wish Neb wasn’t so mediocre nowadays.[/quote]
    (dying laughing) I was trying to get back into Neb baseball. That lasted all of 1 week.

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  101. [quote name=Horny Goat]can of worms![/quote]
    So, I can assume this has been discussed by all the Big 10 fans on this board already? Didn’t mean to open up a can of worms. I thought it was pretty much accepted that the SEC was the best and shadiest conference.

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  102. [quote name=Hector Villanueva ]You don’t really believe that do you?[/quote]
    I do believe that. I mean college sports is a business there is gonna be shady shit all across. Sure $cam newton didnt make us look great and yea SC had some oversigning issues but the big ten isnt cleaner than us. USCw had to forfeit their titles.

    I jsut think we get caught more.

    (dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)

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  103. [quote name=Lukas]I am enjoying Alex Gordon this year though.[/quote]
    I hope he found himself, and can stay healthy, which he never has. Those teams with Alex, then Joba were so fun to watch. They came pretty close to winning the CWS a couple years. One year was especially heartbreaking.

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  104. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]I do believe that. I mean college sports is a business there is gonna be shady shit all across. Sure $cam newton didnt make us look great and yea SC had some oversigning issues but the big ten isnt cleaner than us. USCw had to forfeit their titles.

    I jsut think we get caught more.

    (dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)[/quote]
    My opinion is that it just matters more in the South, that’s why the SEC is worse. Also the alumni in the South literally don’t care if their football teams make their universities look bad. Not so with MOST of the schools in B10, P10 and ACC. I would put certain programs (USC, Ohio State, FSU, Oklahoma) on par with the SEC.

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  105. [quote name=Hector Villanueva ]So, I can assume this has been discussed by all the Big 10 fans on this board already? Didn’t mean to open up a can of worms. I thought it was pretty much accepted that the SEC was the best and shadiest conference.[/quote]
    Certain big ten people here will argue that the Big ten is better.

    I have nothing against the big ten. Im from evanston and went to every NU game growing up. I love NU. But the football is just not even close to SEC football

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  106. [quote name=Hector Villanueva ]My opinion is that it just matters more in the South, that’s why the SEC is worse. Also the alumni in the South literally don’t care if their football teams make their universities look bad. Not so with MOST of the schools in B10, P10 and ACC. I would put certain programs (USC, Ohio State, FSU, Oklahoma) on par with the SEC.[/quote]
    Its an event like none other. I swear to you you could rob a bank when South Carolina plays Clemson and get away with it. It took some getting used to to being prepared to wear a shirt and tie (miserable during noon september games) to every game, but i love the south and SEC football

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  107. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]Certain big ten people here will argue that the Big ten is better.

    I have nothing against the big ten. Im from evanston and went to every NU game growing up. I love NU. But the football is just not even close to SEC football[/quote]
    I think that is a pretty tough claim to make. B10 definitely improves with the addition of Nebraska. But, even with Nebraska there are 4 schools in the B10 that have a legit shot at winning a national title. In SEC you have UGA, UT, UF, ‘Bama, LSU and Auburn. Plus, a couple of solid programs in Arkansas and South Carolina. I’d also put the bottom-feeders in the SEC ahead of the bottom feeders in the B10.

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  108. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]I do believe that. I mean college sports is a business there is gonna be shady shit all across. Sure $cam newton didnt make us look great and yea SC had some oversigning issues but the big ten isnt cleaner than us. USCw had to forfeit their titles.

    I jsut think we get caught more.

    (dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)[/quote]
    I didn’t mean to imply the Big Ten or any conf was the “cleanest”. It’s all relative and there are different ways to look at it. You could talk about it all night. that’s what I meant by can of worms I guess.

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  109. Just watched a few of the highlights HG. I’m liking Carnes hooking up with Turner. Some of those were pretty. Along with Turner’s kick returns. I will also never be confident in Green.

    And I love me some Rex, it’s fun to watch him run.

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  110. [quote name=Hector Villanueva ]I think that is a pretty tough claim to make. B10 definitely improves with the addition of Nebraska. But, even with Nebraska there are 4 schools in the B10 that have a legit shot at winning a national title. In SEC you have UGA, UT, UF, ‘Bama, LSU and Auburn. Plus, a couple of solid programs in Arkansas and South Carolina. I’d also put the bottom-feeders in the SEC ahead of the bottom feeders in the B10.[/quote]
    Big 10 has def. gotten stronger. Dont mean to say something ridiculous but i really think if Garcia can play for South Carolina we might be the best team in the SEC. I would think if he plays we have the best offense and defensive line in the conference. Clowney is going to eat SEC QB’s for lunch.

    Lattimore and Jeffrey are all americans

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  112. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]Its an event like none other. [/quote]
    I really want to make it to a game in the SEC this fall. I’ve been to a lot of the Big10 stadiums, and went to Austin last fall. What SEC campuses have you been to?

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  113. [quote name=Lukas]Just watched a few of the highlights HG. I’m liking Carnes hooking up with Turner. Some of those were pretty. Along with Turner’s kick returns. I will also never be confident in Green.

    And I love me some Rex, it’s fun to watch him run.[/quote]
    Carnes is pretty smooth alright. Such a natural. We’ll know more in the fall. Turner is so exciting and fast, not to mention the other fast guys. Kenny Bell, Jean-Baptiste, the returning players like Kyler Reed. Rex is Rex. A stud. Don’t forget the freshmen backs coming in the fall- Aaron Green, Abdullah, Heard. It’s pretty stacked for playmakers. Cody Green may never start again. He might be wise to redshirt and switch to tight end.

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  114. [quote name=Hector Villanueva ]I really want to make it to a game in the SEC this fall. I’ve been to a lot of the Big10 stadiums, and went to Austin last fall. What SEC campuses have you been to?[/quote]
    (dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)
    None other than Carolina. We were normally so mediocre that it wasnt worth it driving four hours to get embarrased. What i would reccomend is UGA and UF int he worlds largest cocktail party. (SEC east side) or Bama and LSU in Death valley

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  115. It took some getting used to to being prepared to wear a shirt and tie

    I don’t care about the oversigning stuff, it’s THIS that has always pissed me off about football in the South (dying laughing).

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  116. [quote name=bubblesdachimp](dying laughing)
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    None other than Carolina. We were normally so mediocre that it wasnt worth it driving four hours to get embarrased. What i would reccomend is UGA and UF int he worlds largest cocktail party. (SEC east side) or Bama and LSU in Death valley[/quote]
    I’ll probably do either T-town or Athens. Death Valley scares me, and I prefer to go to games on college campuses.

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  118. [quote name=Berselius]I don’t care about the oversigning stuff, it’s THIS that has always pissed me off about football in the South (dying laughing).[/quote]
    (dying laughing) berselius, it’s hot and humid enough.

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  119. [quote name=Berselius]I don’t care about the oversigning stuff, it’s THIS that has always pissed me off about football in the South (dying laughing).[/quote]
    (dying laughing) (dying laughing)

    It really sucked at first but i got used to it. At least i didnt super douche it up with a bow tie

    Also Horny Goat (dying laughing) (dying laughing) what is it 5 straight national titles?

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  121. [quote name=Hector Villanueva ]I’ll probably do either T-town or Athens. Death Valley scares me, and I prefer to go to games on college campuses.[/quote]
    UT UF in the swamp is pretty intense.

    BAma auburn in bama would be sick too

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  122. [quote name=Horny Goat]Bulls hanging on by a hair, seconds left[/quote]
    Pacers are pretty feisty. Bulls played sloppy again today.

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  123. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]

    Also Horny Goat (dying laughing) (dying laughing) what is it 5 straight national titles?[/quote]
    best that money can buy (dying laughing)

    I kid, I kid

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  124. [quote name=Horny Goat]best that money can buy (dying laughing)

    I kid, I kid[/quote]
    er, I meant Ohio State (dying laughing)

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  127. 424, I don’t know who was complaining about Z, but apparently Julie said some people on twitter were. I think she’s following the wrong people if that’s the case.

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  130. [quote name=mb21]424, I don’t know who was complaining about Z, but apparently Julie said some people on twitter were. I think she’s following the wrong people if that’s the case.[/quote]
    Twitter is ruining my optimism about Z.

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  135. Ah, Sully’s mailbag:

    I am sick and tired of Cubs fans and Chicago people always being negative about the Cubs. When will Cubs fans learn that all the negativity contributes to the Cubs not winning? It has to affect players to always hear that they have no chance, doesn’t it? Also, if you are a true Cubs fan you would not jump off the bandwagon after one week of the season just because it was not perfect!! We should have won the series against the Pirates if Marmol doesn’t blow the save!! This team has the talent, they just need to perform to their abilities and we will be all right! What’s your take on what I have brought up, Paul? Nathan H., Omaha,Neb. Agree wholeheartedly.

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  136. You guys probably couldn’t tell, watching on TV last night, but from where I, GBTS, was sitting, which was the center field bleachers, Carlos Zambrano appeared, to me, to pitch very well.

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  137. [quote name=Mish]Ah, Sully’s mailbag:[/quote]
    Nathan H. in Omaha makes the rest of us in Omaha look bad.

    If you hear that Nathan H. has disappeared soon, say nothing. (dying laughing)

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  138. [quote name=GBTS]You guys probably couldn’t tell, watching on TV last night, but from where I, GBTS, was sitting, which was the center field bleachers, Carlos Zambrano appeared, to me, to pitch very well.[/quote]

    I don’t think so. Those 3 or 4 fly ball outs would have been on waveland if not for the wind.

    /BCB’d

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  140. [quote name=Jame Gumb]Which type of Rahr did you get, b?[/quote]I got their blonde. It’s pretty good.

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  141. [quote name=Jame Gumb]http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/4/18/2118645/reds-mike-leake-arrested-theft/origin#64583964[/quote]
    It really pisses me off that Al calls him an idiot. It’s like calling Josh Hamilton an idiot for relapsing. Why don’t people realize that there are serious mental health problems outside of alcohol and drug problems and severe psychotic disorders?

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  144. [quote name=dylanj]leake may not have a disorder. there is a chance he is just kind of an asshole.[/quote]
    It’s possible, but I would find it hard to believe that a professional baseball player would steal $10 shirts because he’s an asshole.

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  145. [quote name=Berselius]I got their blonde. It’s pretty good.[/quote]
    Their seasonals are the way to go. Iron Thistle’s gone until next winter. Their Winter Warmer is awesome too. Bucking Bock is out right now and it’s a nice one.

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  146. [quote name=Xoomwaffle]It really pisses me off that Al calls him an idiot. It’s like calling Josh Hamilton an idiot for relapsing. Why don’t people realize that there are serious mental health problems outside of alcohol and drug problems and severe psychotic disorders?[/quote]
    I think KOWOH took care of that.

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  149. [quote name=Xoomwaffle]It’s possible, but I would find it hard to believe that a professional baseball player would steal $10 shirts because he’s an asshole.[/quote]I agree. It’s much more likely that whatever drove him to do this is very similar to what drives people to alcoholism and drug addiction. Only a simpleton would immediately jump to a conclusion that he’s an asshole. He may be, but my money is on him having some type of problem. That’s just not normal behavior.

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  151. [quote name=dylanj]well im a simpleton then.[/quote]I didn’t mean you. I guess I’m assuming you aren’t jumping to conclusions like Al was. I was talking about him.

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  153. i don’t think anyone can say if leake has some kind of psychological problem that causes him to steal any more than you can say its 100 % caused by leake being an asshole.

    the real question is why mike leake thinks american rag shirts are cool

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  154. As I just read on Tango’s blog, the Yankees have the occasional $5 ticket days. I hope their best customers are currently protesting this outrageous exercise of economics.

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  155. [quote name=dylanj]i don’t think anyone can say if leake has some kind of psychological problem that causes him to steal any more than you can say its 100 % caused by leake being an asshole.

    the real question is why mike leake thinks american rag shirts are cool[/quote]I agree with that. I’d say the actions seem to be more consistent with someone who has a problem, but sure, it’s entirely possible he’s just a prick who thought fuck it, I want this and I don’t wan to pay.

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  156. [quote name=Mish]As I just read on Tango’s blog, the Yankees have the occasional $5 ticket days. I hope their best customers are currently protesting this outrageous exercise of economics.[/quote]
    I would totally pay $5 to get into Yankee Stadium.

    I’m such a leech on society.

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  160. [quote name=Xoomwaffle]It’s possible, but I would find it hard to believe that a professional baseball player would steal $10 shirts because he’s an asshole.[/quote]
    I don’t find it that hard to believe. He’s also 23 years old. I would wait for more facts to pass judgment, but I’m not going to automatically assume that Leake has a mental health problem.

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