At the beginning of the season we started an over/under contest that would take wouldn't reveal a winner until the end of the season. People chose whether a player would end the season over or under his projections. Under was a bit confusing for pitchers and I made that clear in the post. If you thought the pitcher was going to do better than a 3.5 FIP you chose under. Anyway, we're halfway through the season at this point. Well not yet. In two more games they are. Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see if anyone has jumped out to a big enough lead.
I just doubled each player's playing time and WAR (average of fWAR and rWAR). If you got it right so far, one point for you. Otherwise it's none. These can still change. Some of the players have performed right along the lines of what we would have expected. I have not yet included Anthony Rizzo or Brett Jackson since we didn't expect them to get much playing time by this point. I threw out Kerry Wood's since he retired. At the end of the season Jackson and Rizzo will be included whether they play all that much or not, but Wood will be thrown out.
| Username | Total |
| berselius | 28 |
| Snyds01 | 28 |
| Tommy (TC) | 26 |
| Mark Ammer | 26 |
| shawndgoldman | 26 |
| ACT | 24 |
| mb21 | 23 |
| SkipVB | 23 |
| Mercurial Outfielder | 22 |
| cwolf | 22 |
| WaLi | 21 |
| DamageControlFreak | 21 |
| josh | 20 |
| koboldekobold | 20 |
| WenningtonsGorillaCock | 20 |
| Suburban Kid | 20 |
| adnielsen | 20 |
| GW | 19 |
| AndCounting | 19 |
| Rice Cube | 18 |
| Corms | 18 |
| João Lucas Pimenta Pinto | 14 |
berselius, mb21 and AndCounting are highlighed because they are ineligible to win.
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Oh yes I remember being too lazy to do this.
MishQuote Reply
How did my super optimistic projections net me 20 points? Have the Cubs actually done better than expected? That certainly can’t be right. Maybe I wasn’t optimistic enough.
joshQuote Reply
I’m guessing that my score reflects the fact that I was too optimistic.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I think the scores are mostly just luck. There were 3 categories for each player. I’m guessing a lot of people made some of their choices based on previous choices for that player. I figured Maholm wouldn’t reach his projected innings pitched in part because of an injury or ineffectiveness. So I also figured he’d be worse than his projected FIP and since I had both as lower I also figured his WAR would be. For Soto I figured he’d have fewer PA, but a higher wOBA and a higher WAR. So sometimes if you get one wrong you end up getting them all wrong. It’s really just luck, but I liked the idea that GW had and it’s something I think we’ll do each year. I might try to simplify it so more people take part in it. I might give people the option to pass on certain players too. I don’t know, but I’m going to play around with it before next year.
mb21Quote Reply
Anyone have an opinion on term limits? http://obstructedview.net/forum.html?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=93.0#postid-1219
mb21Quote Reply
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/03/anthony-rizzo-was-the-best-friend-starlin-castro-had-last-night/
MishQuote Reply
Andy Griffith died 🙁
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Mish:
I’m shocked to see myself listed up there, given my own profound laziness.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
@ Suburban kid:
I usually un-latino-ify myself and end up doing these things, though.
MishQuote Reply
I’m mediocre!
WaLiQuote Reply
Good Chris Carpenter ———> could be shut down again, have another surgery
BerseliusQuote Reply
@ Mish:
You were probably too busy fighting crime and saving puppies
WaLiQuote Reply
@ WaLi:
Probably?!
MishQuote Reply
Has anyone bothered to watch the new Spider-Man movie yet before Mish rampages through theaters in a couple weeks?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
I haven’t gone to a movie in over a year. Will actually probably take a day off work to see TDK Rises.
joshQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
(dying laughing)
I have a five day weekend starting in 1:15, so at some point I might indulge in Spider-Man, though I have nothing set up yet. I could also catch it before I watch TDKR at midnight in a few weeks, but I’d rather use that pre-show time to put my my mind in the right state, if you catch my drift.
MishQuote Reply
josh wrote:
I will probably wait for the opening weekend crowds to die down before I take the family to a matinee. We’re a bunch of nerds.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
Me too. The day off work is so the kid will be at daycare, so we can, you know, actually watch the movie.
joshQuote Reply
@ josh:
Bane is not an especially cuddly personality for an infant.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
True. Plus, unless it’s Yo Gabba Gabba onscreen, he gets bored after about 5 minutes.
joshQuote Reply
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/jeff-samardzijas-seesaw-season/
MishQuote Reply
@ josh:
I wish I didn’t google “Yo Gabba Gabba”
Poor kid.
WaLiQuote Reply
@ WaLi:
It is by far — BY FAR — the most tolerable kids show I’ve seen.
joshQuote Reply
Just opened my twitter and the first headline i saw was “The history of the batmobile” Didnt have to even look who retweeted it
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
@ bubblesdachimp:
Cool story, bro…
Rice CubeQuote Reply
josh wrote:
False…just a bad statement all around. You need a larger sample size.
TheVanQuote Reply
@ bubblesdachimp:
It’s not who I am underneath, but what I retweet, that defines me.
MishQuote Reply
@ TheVan:
I didn’t say “in existence” or “ever made.” I said “I’ve seen,” and I stand by it. If you have suggestions, I’m open to them.
joshQuote Reply
josh wrote:
Metalacolypse, Archer, Squidbillies…to name a few. They’re animated so they count as children’s shows. Also, I’m a horrible parent.
TheVanQuote Reply
@ TheVan:
Kid’s not a big cartoon fan. I think he just likes the familiarity, and the fact that he knows the character’s names. He also likes when it’s time to dance.
joshQuote Reply
@ TheVan:
I was trying to get him to watch me play L.A. Noire yesterday. After about 5 minutes he started slapping hte keyboard and yelling.
joshQuote Reply
My kids are at a fun age where they like to watch the Cubs, but they’re too young to understand that the Cubs suck, but old enough to read the scoreboard and know they’re losing. It’s a very confusing time in my household.
TheVanQuote Reply
@ TheVan:
My son in the last week just starting pointing at the screen when I’m watching the Cubs or clips and saying “bee ball?” It begins.
joshQuote Reply
@ TheVan:
Squidbillies will certainly get some good ole learning in them their youngins, for sure. Early’s hats combine to form the encyclopedia of all knowledge needed for red blooded Americans.
BubbaBiscuitQuote Reply
Re: Children’s programming
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6789072/dora-the-explorer-movie-trailer-with-ariel-winter
BerseliusQuote Reply
@ Berselius:
Ugh. That show is soooo boring. They just stare at you. I hate Dora so much.
joshQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
Now that’s just weird. I was thinking about him earlier today, and it’s not as though I think about him every day.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Getting back to an earlier discussion I wasn’t around for: I wonder whether Samardzija’s reliance on his splitter as his out pitch may have something to do with why he’s been so inconsistent. That is, he’s only as good as his splitter on a given day. Somebody less lazy than myself needs to research that question.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Billy Hamilton now has 100 stolen bases.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Rizzo the Rat wrote:
Not today. That’d be a record.
Aisle424Quote Reply
@ Aisle424:
(dying laughing)
mb21Quote Reply
Don’t know what the SB record is in the minor leagues, but I’m pretty sure Hamilton is going to beat it.
mb21Quote Reply
Hamilton has reached base 154 times. 17 of those were doubles, 9 triples and a home run. Those are insane stolen base numbers.
mb21Quote Reply
@ josh:
If the kid is at day care, shouldn’t you go hike the Appalachian Trail instead of go to a movie?
mobile skipQuote Reply
@ mobile skip:
I don’t think I can reach the Appalachian Trail and hike it in a day starting from Illinois. If you’re generally questioning whether I get outside enough, rest assured I spend as much time outside as I can. That’s part of why I do insect photography. I try to get to a park once a week and spend my lunch hours outside hunting for bugs (when I’m not on old with the IRS, that is).
joshQuote Reply
@ mb21:
Yeah, unfortunately minor league record-keeping hasn’t always been very good. Vince Coleman stole 145 in 1983 (Class A Macon), which is the most at any level since 1962. http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/2012/06/for-the-record-single-season-stolen-base-leaders-for-every-minor-league/
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ mobile skip:
Por ejemplo, a lacewing I photographed yesterday:
joshQuote Reply
So there’s a good chance he’ll set the record that we know of.
mb21Quote Reply
@ mb21:
Never heard of this guy.
joshQuote Reply
@ josh:
@ mb21:
Go lacewing!
/non sequitur’d
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ josh:
He’s in the Reds system (high A). He’s considered the fastest guy in baseball at any level. http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=hamilt002bil
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Also, a HOF outfielder from the 19th century: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamilbi01.shtml
I think it would be a great idea to pass down the “Sliding Billy” nickname to the newer model. (Assuming the younger Billy needs to slide. From what I’ve heard, he’s probably fast enough to steal bases against A-level catchers standing up.)
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ Rizzo the Rat:
AND he can get on base? Is that allowed? Did anyone tell Tony?
joshQuote Reply
@ josh:
Both Tony and Billy have a career MiLB OBP of .358, FWIW.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ josh:
Ah, I think you missed the reference, but former SC Gov Mark Sanford can give you pointers on how to hike the AT from 1000s of miles away.
Cool pic
mobile skipQuote Reply
Proof that performance in this contest is luck as MB says: MB – 23; Skip 23.
I should have far less.
mobile skipQuote Reply
I’m glad Chipper is in the all-star game in his final season.
mb21Quote Reply
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ mb21:
Agreed. I’ve enjoyed watching him hit.
MishQuote Reply
any word on a start time?
mb21Quote Reply
mb21 wrote:
None of those balls left the infield, either.
GBTSQuote Reply
@ Mish:
He’s been one of my favorites for awhile. I was watching the Braves a lot when he was establishing himself. Great player
mb21Quote Reply
Mets announcer just called RBIs “ribeye steaks.”
GBTSQuote Reply
@ mb21:
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
linccecum is done. getting hselled by the nats
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
Well, so much for Big Time Timmy being back on track.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Its just hanging breaking ball after hanger.. Bizarre
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
Wow. Brewers and Marlins tied at 11. Brewers blew a 6-run lead in the 8th.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
just got away with another hanger. Everything is up for him
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
So, this Rizzo guy…
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I really like Rizzo
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
Vitters BB in first at bat. Now hitting over .300 also
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
I have a feeling if Castro does that play brenly rips him
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
Aramis just hit a 2-run come-from-behind walk-off home run against Heath Bell in the bottom of the 10th. Aramis’ WPA on the day: .991
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
cue yakety sax
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=22805063&c_id=mlb&topic_id=vtp_star_of_the_game
Heath’s reaction is awesome.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Alfonso Soriano stole a base.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Rizzo the Rat:
It’s nice that Aramis and Cesar Izturis could be reunited for a postgame walkoff. Too bad the camera cut away from their hug today before we got to see a replay of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpC5bdyYwCU
Chet MastersonQuote Reply
Volstad —> one bad inning as usual
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ mobile skip:
Gotcha. Totally missed that.
joshQuote Reply
@ Rizzo the Rat:
Aramis is having a pretty good year.
joshQuote Reply
Guys, don’t worry. Dolis is pitching.
joshQuote Reply
Dolis needs to go down
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
Surprisingly, Dolis had trouble throwing his sinker for strikes.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
I haven’t even heard of the current pitcher.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ Rizzo the Rat:
I think he pitched once before. Picked him up on a minor league deal, I believe.
joshQuote Reply
josh wrote:
Isn’t a contract with the Cubs a minor league deal by definition?
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ Rizzo the Rat:
Zing.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
i would like an official timer on this half inning.. I have over 20 minutes
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
@ Rizzo the Rat:
Correct. But I guess it was a waiver claim.
joshQuote Reply
Cashner hurt 🙁
bubblesdachimpQuote Reply
@ bubblesdachimp:
Aw yeah! trade win!
joshQuote Reply
@ bubblesdachimp:
Already?!
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I hated Chipper when I was a kid. He always did well against the Cubs. Now I know he was just a good player. I was very passionate as a boy.
joshQuote Reply
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/5577/andrew-cashner
Good lord. That kid is cursed.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
You know, my softball game was 10-3 going into the bottom of the 7th and we got over confident and allowed them to score 3. Just saying it was closer than we thought it would be. The other team totally made a comeback and we were way better.
joshQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
I mean, injury history was the main reason the Cubs let him go, right? Of course, the same can be said for The Rockies and Ian Stewart.
joshQuote Reply
@ bubblesdachimp:
Not surprised. I thought re-converting him to a starter was a terrible idea.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ josh:
Well, that and Hoyer’s long-standing man-crush on Rizzo.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ Rizzo the Rat:
I’m kinda agreeing with him. Although, obviously, I’m just waiting for him to have an a slump so I can say they called him up to early and the kid has already shown he doesn’t have what it takes.
joshQuote Reply
Holy crapstore begonias! How do the damn White Sox have 19 runs!??!
joshQuote Reply
apparently it’s just a lat strain
GWQuote Reply
So Tyler Colvin has the winning homer today if the score holds.
I guess the Cubs lost that trade in a way.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Finally: I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the Orioles’ struggles have coincided with Adam Jones slowing down.
joshQuote Reply
It’s really weird to have the Phils at 10 games below .500. I know they’re old and injured and all that, but just last year they won over 100 games, for God’s sake.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
I was going to go on YouTube to look for Trevor Bauer videos, but I just ended up watching Jack Bauer stuff for 40 minutes.
GBTSQuote Reply
@ Rizzo the Rat:
That’s really surprising. Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay have been shakey, haven’t they? It’s mind boggling. I think everyone assumed that their first month struggles would quickly turn around, but they haven’t. Maybe they’ll make up ground in the second half. When do they play the Cubs? That should get them going.
joshQuote Reply
Something’s happening in Seattle through five.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
It’d have to be the combined kind of nothing much, if nothing much happened.
joshQuote Reply
@ josh:
The dude’s been fairly economical so it may be a solo something/nothing much.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
He’s already been taken out.
joshQuote Reply
@ josh:
How disappointing, but ’tis best to err on the side of caution.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ josh:
What? Chen’s still pitching.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Perfect game, no-hitter, and shutout all lost on 1 pitch.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ Rizzo the Rat:
Not for much longer (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Rizzo the Rat:
I was looking at the box score all upside down. I blame the amazing beer I’m drinking.
joshQuote Reply
@ Rizzo the Rat:
It seems to go that way a lot of the times. Guy starts thinking about it too much, challenges him with a fastball down the middle. Bang.
joshQuote Reply
Justin Smoak. That dude hasn’t worked out at all.
joshQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
i was secretly hoping trevor would wear #24.
GWQuote Reply
Rice Cube wrote:
It’s certainly not looking great for the Cubs, but it was a fine gamble by Thoyer. FWIW Colvin’s projection still sits at .258/.297/.476, a .328 wOBA. That’s a lot higher than I would have thought but it probably also has Coors taken into account. Colvin has power, but the rest of his numbers are buoyed by a .363 BABIP
BerseliusQuote Reply
Holy balls, the White Sox obliterated the Rangers last night
Berselius22Quote Reply
We got a search engine hit on “Jack Daniels Honey gross”
BerseliusQuote Reply
@ Berselius:
I remember posting some stupid comment that included the words Jack Daniels, so you’re welcome.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
@ Berselius:
That stuff is pretty gross.
joshQuote Reply
new shit: http://obstructedview.net/minor-leagues/the-children-are-the-future-cubs-minor-league-update-sponsored-by-cookies-bar-b-q.html
mb21Quote Reply