Projecting the 2012 Cubs – Carlos Marmol

Marmol followed up his stellar 3 WAR 2010 season a much more heart-attacky 2011 season. Marmol's ten blown saves led all of baseball last year (tied with LAAoLAoDoQEoA's Jordan Walden). Marmol walks (and hits) a ton of batters, and continued that trend in 2011. However, his K/9 dropped to a "mere" 12 batters per nine, down from the record-breaking 15.99 of 2010. Marmol's HR rate also jumped up, as he gave up 7.5% HR/FB as opposed to the microscopic numbers he posted in '09 and '10. That's still quite good, but his HR-precenting skills were going to regress at some point. Speaking of regression, Marmol's BABIP over the past two years has hovered up around .300, which seems normal until you consider what an extreme fly ball/pop up inducing pitcher he is. One thing that looks like a blip in his otherwise stellar 2010 numbers was his 6.3% IFFB%, which had been well into the double digits previously, even reaching as high as 20% in 2009. His 2011 numbers also showed a lower number (9%), which could mean that batters are making better contact off of him.

Carlos Marmol got the pitchers equivalent of "best shape of his life" going into spring training, namely, the "we've made his delivery smoother" cliche. Not that spring stats mean much of anything, but Marmol has seemed just as wild as before, and has even looked more hittable. Most of that could probably be attributed to him focusing on locating his fastball, which he needs to mix in with his devastating slider. I don't think Marmol needs that much work on the slider because even when it's "on" he probably still doesn't know where the hell it is going. Marmol suffered a hand injury a week or so but all signs pointed to it being cramps. He got an MRI for it…on his neck, which was also sore. Could be something to look out for going forward.

Projection IP BB HBP SO HR ERA FIP
Steamer 71 43 5 89 7 3.17 3.84
Bill James 76 52 8 97 5 3.43 3.71
RotoChamp 70 47 10 101 4 3.34 3.34
Tango Marcel 70 38 6 85 4 3.34 3.24
ZiPS 73.33 49 9 101 5 3.19 3.55
CAIRO 77 49 8 107 4 3.26 3.16
PECOTA 74.7 40 7.67 98 5 2.57 3.20
Oliver 75 49 7.67 102 4 3.95 3.28
DavMarcel 65 55 7.67 125 5 4.19 3.09
Guru 69 39 6 88 4 3.63 3.20
Average 72.1 46.1 7.67 99.3 4.7 3.41 3.37

With this projection, Marmol is worth 6.37 RAR, which combined with his closer role nets 1.31 WAR. He's getting more expensive, and I wonder if the Cubs would be able to move him for much of anything right now. Thank goodness for the Proven Closer surtax, though it's too bad Ed Wade isn't around to trade some of the Astros' copious reserves of nothing at the Cubs to get him.

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33 thoughts on “Projecting the 2012 Cubs – Carlos Marmol”

  1. Over 72 innings with league FIP of 4.0, I get 0.9 WAR (including leverage). A starter with 72 IP and a 3.62 FIP would be 1.3 WAR.

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  2. Watching Moneyball. Dig it so far. Just from what I’ve seen so far, I can see why they ignore Zito. The point is that he lost three “stars” and needs to replace him. That gets him thinking about whether these guys are stars, what is a star. I like how they did it. As soon as I’m dong baking this cake, I’m going to finish it and watch the A’s finally win a World Series.

    I’m getting my hopes way, WAY up.

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  3. Jamie Moyer is the Rockies’ no. 2 starter and the oldest pitcher ever to make a starting rotation. I’m excited, even if I don’t expect great things.

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  4. I liked Moneyball and I didn’t think I’d like it. I don’t care that they didn’t focus on Hudson, Zito and Mulder. That’s not what the movie was about. I thought they did a really good job. I thought they did a better job at dealing with the traditional scouts than Michael Lewis did.

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  5. @ mb21:
    It was good. I enjoyed it. It was a good story, and show appreciation and sentimentality for the game without getting too sappy. A little sappy, but not syrupy.

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  6. Every now and then Bubs thinks a producer should change the end of a movie to really troll the audience. Like let Voldemort win at the end of Harry Potter or let The A’s win the series.

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  7. Ugh. Hope anyone they pick up is of the Shawn Camp variety, not someone they have to spend anything other than money to get

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  8. Also Andrew Cashner has been lights out this spring.

    9 IP, 13 k, 7 hits 3 BB…

    I really hope that kid is awesome

    edit: He always talked to Bubbs at Cubs nats games and was very nice

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  9. Geovany Soto is batting 8th on opening day. Darwin fucking Barney is batting 2nd against one of the toughest righties in the game.

    I don’t care all that much about lineups, but you may as well move Dempster up to the 6th spot in that lineup because it’s so fucked as it is.

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  10. mb21 wrote:

    Geovany Soto is batting 8th on opening day. Darwin fucking Barney is batting 2nd against one of the toughest righties in the game.

    ACT wrote:

    Sveum said he will probably tweak the lineup against left-handers, having Barney slide into the leadoff spot.

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  11. mb21 wrote:

    If he’d have changed the ending in that movie it would have completely ruined it.

    I agree, Harry Potter is fine the way it is!

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  12. I knew I had read early in camp that Barney was going to be hitting at the top of the order. This is nonsense. Then again, he did slug like a million so it’s surprising he’s not batting 4th based on his spring performance.

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  13. @ Berselius:

    It’s weird what sports does. Michael Pineda went from beloved to not beloved by changing his shirt. All that really matters is that Montero develops, and that Noesi develops, but people don’t want to regret the loss of Pineda, so they don’t want Pineda to make them regret it. As if it makes any difference. I know it’s true, because part of me feels the same way. I’m most interested in the progress of the Mariners’ two guys, but I’ll confess that I’ve felt shreds of gladness when reading about Pineda’s struggles. When I think about it, I don’t like it, but it’s there.

    I don’t get this and never have. No part of me has ever wanted someone the Cubs traded to do poorly. In fact, I’d be much happier seeing a former Cub or Cubs prospect do quite well after being traded. Even Ryan Theriot. I’d rather see him do well than poorly. He frustrated the shit out of me as a Cub, but now that he isn’t one he can’t frustrate me.

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  14. mb21 wrote:

    Geovany Soto is batting 8th on opening day. Darwin fucking Barney is batting 2nd against one of the toughest righties in the game.

    I don’t care all that much about lineups, but you may as well move Dempster up to the 6th spot in that lineup because it’s so fucked as it is.

    I always look forward to one of those posts where you complain about something you claim to not care about. Pick one or the other.

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