There are probably dozens of prospect perverts and sites better suited to this than I am, but the Draft is over and the Cubs got their 20 new guys, pending signability, but my guess is that the first 10 picks (within the slot pool) will certainly be signed, and they’ll get most of the others because they’re mostly college players and don’t have much in the way of leverage. There don’t seem to be any Cubs picks of note on the last day which is rounds 11 and beyond, at least according to one source, and regardless I’ve heard of none of these guys so I’m flying blind anyway (dying laughing). Only the first five picks have blurbs on MLB dot com, so I imagine the bulk of the slot money goes to them and the rest are going to be way underslot.
The Cubs picks are here and they have $8,962,000 (which is basically $9,410,100 before forfeiting future draft picks) to spend on those first 10. It breaks down as follows:
- Three from high school, 17 from some form of college
- Nine pitchers (only three in the top ten, and two of the top five)
- Three listed as shortstops
- Two listed as third basemen
- One listed as primarily first baseman
- Three outfielders
- One listed second baseman
- One catcher
I know drafts aren’t set up for need, but it seems they were going after established college bats so this seems like a safe draft. The two high schoolers picked #6 and #7 are probably going to be underslots and ready signs, but the prospect hounds seem to at least think there are tools there to be worked with. I imagine with a pretty decent pitching infrastructure in place, they could afford to err on the side of positional need, and the shortstops can eventually go somewhere else if Swanson and Hoerner haven’t bailed yet.
Teams have to sign their guys by August 1, which incidentally is the trade deadline, so I guess the front office interns are going to be making lots of Starbucks runs in the next couple weeks.
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Allegedly the ASG starts at 8 PM Eastern but given the 30 minutes of introductions and then some I don’t expect them to start for a bit after that.
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Obviously I know not of what I speak but I’m glad I know people who do
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I never follow the draft, but curious if anyone went big on HS players. IIRC there were several teams on day one that went Oops All College.
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berselius,
Looks like the Giants tried
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2023-mlb-draft-winners-and-losers-from-the-lsu-baseball-team-to-the-rockies-new-pitching-prospect/
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I’m not sure I articulated it well but this is along the lines of what I thought after the fifth round or so
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Bah, locked out because FOX decided we need to watch them on the proper channels
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The draft rundown
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All-Star Games are more fun when you’re allowed to play defense
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Rice Cube,
Ground Beef disagrees (dying laughing)
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Justin Steele had a good inning!
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Great outing for Steele.
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I assume Ohtani was lifted for a pinch hitter because he’s been traded to an NL team.
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Wow, Romano broke in the ASG and had to be replaced mid-AB?
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The NL will never win again
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…false?
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Sounded like a fine defensive play on the radio
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Wow Kimbrel
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never doubted for a second (dying laughing)
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Nick Castellanos playing CF was a thing that happened
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Immaculate Grid 101 8/9:
Rarity: 270
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Got burned by Griffey, but I would never have guessed any of the White Sox guys anyway
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Immaculate Grid 101 7/9:
Rarity: 391
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So apparently Frank Thomas wasn’t RoY.
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berselius,
Alex Rodriguez also, not a ROY. That award, I guess, is like the Best New Artist Grammy. It tells you jack shit about who’s really good.
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andcounting,
Can’t wait to bust out Rick Wilkins or Geovany Soto when there’s a Cubs RoY square.
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andcounting,
Oh, I see. I remember A-Rod being this great phenom in Seattle really young, which he was . . . but his first two seasons were cups of coffee at 18 and 19 (he’s my age). His first full season (and the first time he was any good) was 1996 when some flash in the pan named Jeter won the ROY unanimously.
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andcounting,
I heard he had some issues defensively
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MLBTR wrote some praise for Mark Leiter Jr
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/07/cubs-trade-rumors-mark-leiter-jr.html
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Twitter seems broken, my wife did help me start a threads that is linked to my Instagram that I barely ever use though
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Perkins,
I played and didn’t get either of the ROY but was kind of surprised only 10% of people chose Adam Dunn
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Re: Manfred talking
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/professional/mlb/cardinals/will-mlb-reset-its-watch-for-october-players-propose-adjusting-pitch-clock-for-crunch-time/article_8a8cb8ce-1fed-11ee-acdf-07de33789958.html
Re: the pitch clock changing for postseason as proposed by MLBPA
Also stuff about the strike call challenge system, Oakland relocating, blackouts and expansion
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Rice Cube,
Possibly, but it wasn’t a factor for ROY. His two partial seasons (which roundly sucked) took him out of ROY eligibility for his breakout season in 1996. He received no votes.
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andcounting,
A technicality! But I was more riffing on Jeter’s inability to move laterally (dying laughing)
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Oooh I hope Oakland makes the A’s and MLB pay an exit fee or something
Based on the article Thao continued to negotiate from what was started with the previous mayor, so shrug emoji there…
It keeps sounding more and more like a stupid version of Rachel Phelps’ plan in Major League
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Grain of salt applies but encouraging benchmarks
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Rice Cube,
“Our customer base is markedly younger since we changed things up and a global pandemic killed millions of old people” is a strange flex.
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andcounting,
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While that’s also true, I would read it more that the game is successfully attracting younger spectators, which can be a useful proxy for the long term viability of the game.
Kinda the inverse scenario for American democracy when considering the age of elected officials.
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Perkins,
My sincere hope is that if the old elected officials keep on FA then the young folks will make them FO
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I had Bryant for the ROY/RBI crossing, and despite the team bias here I’m a little surprised that he was only at 2%.
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Rice Cube,
Not the abbreviation that you were going for, but I can think if several politicians that I’d love to see in Free Agency (dying laughing).
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berselius,
Oh I did Dunn for the Arizona/Chicago thing and then I did Pujols for the ROY 100 RBI
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I fear Bryant may end up in the same RoY conversation as Geovany Soto and Rick Wilkins. Shame how injuries have derailed his career.
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Perkins,
I wouldn’t go that far, at least he has a ring and an MVP to show for his career.
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After looking up Wilkins stats, I can’t wait for you to put his name in and realize that you mixed him up with Jerome Walton (dying laughing).
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If this actually happened with baseball (if the median age dropped because of an influx of young fans as opposed to an exodus of old ones) they’ve GOT to show that through a different stat. If they have an increase of fans 18–35, I’d love that. As it is, I suspect any actual growth in the younger markets is not nearly as impressive as the 8-year drop in median age makes it sound.
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andcounting,
I would agree, they should do something like what they do with surveys, i.e. 18 or younger, 19-34, 35-44, etc etc to see what the year-to-year percentages look like for each age bin.
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Huh, my brain somehow conflated his having a good season as a young catcher with getting a RoY. Well at least I can put Soto. (dying laughing)
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New shit for your eardrums –> http://www.obstructedview.net/podcast/dreamcast-66-all-star-edition/
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