From on NL Central contender to another, whee. The Cubs face the Reds for the final (scheduled) series this year and it’s been a wild ride in the previous Reds series this year. The Cubs split two games with the Reds in early April before seeing the third game get rained out (and being made up today). The Cubs then got swept by the Reds at Wrigley in late May, prompting much pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth and general resignation about the state of the season. The Cubs didn’t face the Reds again until early August, and there’s a drive into deep left field by Castellanos, and handily won three of four games including a two game stretch where the Cubs scored 36 runs.
The Reds just wrapped up a long west coast road trip to Anaheim, Arizona, and SF, where they managed to go 5-5. To their credit, they’ve managed to tread water while a bunch of their main contributors are on the shelf, but they’ve fallen behind a smidge in the playoff race during the Cubs and Beers stretch of hot play. Their playoff odds sit around 16%. The Cubs are just missing ace Hunter Greene, who pitched on Wednesday.
Team Leaders
Switching to actual numbers on the year!
Reds
- OBP: Will Benson (.359)
- ISO: Votto (.259)
- HR: Spencer Steer (18)
- R+RBI: Steer (133)
- wRC+: Matt McLain (128)
- BSR: TJ Friedl (7.3)
- Defense: Elly de la Cruz (4.4)
- SP K/9: Greene (12.02)
- SP BB/9: Ben Lively (2.70)
- SP FIP: Andrew Abbott (3.94)
- RP K/9: Fernando Cruz (12.66)
- RP BB/9: Buck Farmer (3.30)
- RP FIP: Cruz (3.08)
- WAR: McLain (3.2)
Cubs
- OBP: Bellinger (.362)
- ISO: Wisdom (.303)
- HR: Wisdom (21)
- R+RBI: Belli (153)
- wRC+: Belli (139)
- BSR: Hoerner (7.2)
- Defense: Dansby (14.6)
- SP K/9: Steele (8.81)
- SP BB/9: Cyle (1.63)
- SP FIP: Steele (3.09)
- RP K/9: Merryweather (12.30)
- RP BB/9: Alzolay (1.49)
- RP FIP: Alzolay (2.78)
- WAR: Dansby (3.9)
Who isn’t available?
Michael Fulmer is out indefinitely with the dreaded forearm strain diagnosis. Recent news makes it seem like there was something bugging him for a while and he might just be out for the minimum, and be back on Sep 10 or so. Stroman is still out with his rib cartilage issue, and did some long toss on Wednesday It’s still a big wild card as to what we’ll see from him in the next two to 14 months. Rule 5 guy Nick Burdi can’t catch a break this year – he was on his way back before an emergency appendectomy in late May, and since then he’s been diagnosed with some kind of ulnar nerve irritation. Given his status as a rule five guy this could just be David Patton disease but who knows. Brad Boxberger started a rehab assignment with Iowa last week, but given how long he’s been on the shelf it’s not clear that he can make an impact right away. He’s been getting rekt in Iowa, so that’s a further sign that he might not be back soon. Brandon Hughes has been pitching at the complex in Arizona and might get into a minor league game soon, if any teams are still playing.
For the Reds, shortstop and top WAR-haver Matt McLain hit the IL earlier this week with an oblique strain. Joey Votto has missed the last week or so with a shoulder injury but may be back soon. Jonathan India has been out for about a month with lingering plantar fasciitis injury which, I feel ya Jonathan, it sucks ass. CF Jake Fraley missed most of March with a fractured toe, and is working his way back in AAA.
Pitching Matchups, game times
2023 K/9, BB/9, ERA, FIP listed for all starters (projections for recent callups)
Friday G1: Jordan Wicks, LHP (7.78, 3.10, 4.50, 4.59) vs Graham Ashcraft, RHP (6.72, 3.26, 4.73, 5.11), 12:10 PM CT
Friday G2: Shane Greene(?) (7.71, 3.77, 4.99, 5.06) vs TBD, 5:40 PM CT
Saturday: Javier Assad, RHP (6.84, 3.65, 2.96, 4.44) vs Andrew Abbott, LHP (10.05, 3.45, 3.35, 3.94), 5:40 PM CT
Sunday: Jameson Taillon, RHP (7.84, 2.44, 5.62, 4.68) vs Brandon Williamson, RHP (7.94, 3.01, 4.20, 4.51) 11:10 AM CT
Comments
Bat around several times, Cubs
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Let’s hope Cincinnati’s defensive woes are contagious and Bader and Renfroe catch them, instead of baseballs.
BVSQuote Reply
Wicks doing good work, Cubs need to stop with the shitty ABs though
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Walks Happen.
andcountingQuote Reply
I thought at least one run was scoring but Merryweather and Dansby shut me right up
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I never gave up on you
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Screw the closer!
berseliusQuote Reply
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Rice Cube,
Contractually obligated Cincinnati bomb
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M —-> inverted
berseliusQuote Reply
10 over .500
PerkinsQuote Reply
Cubs win day game in 2:45, that was relatively easy and not at all heart stopping
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Good luck boys, you’ve had 162 games at that point to deal with it
Rice CubeQuote Reply
If Cubs can win the second game of the doubleheader, they will be 1.5 back of either the division or the top wild card
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If I am reading this correctly, the Cubs magic number to clinch any playoff spot is 28… https://www.mlb.com/standings
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Hope the Cubs all had their shots, crap
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Rice Cube,
I’d give them 0.1 sec more. Just to be “that guy.”
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Not really.
BVSQuote Reply
Bullpen game woo
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Reds counter
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Probably too soon (dying laughing)
berseliusQuote Reply
Boob already cursed the Cubs today so I think we’re good
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Grinding inning with no payoff, annoying
Rice CubeQuote Reply
berselius,
It’s been a solid three years since we’ve been able to do the jersey magic number pic thing, so I’m pretty happy about it.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Cuas then Smyly is a hell of a plan
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Rice Cube,
It’s a bold strategy Cotton
berseliusQuote Reply
Rice Cube,
Though I wonder if they managed to fool the Erds into putting a bunch of lefties in the lineup
/galaxy brain
berseliusQuote Reply
Letting this guy settle down with quick innings was a dumb plan but thankfully Bellinger hates that plan
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Belli
berseliusQuote Reply
Smyly looks gassed, hopefully he’s done for the day
berseliusQuote Reply
Smyly with poor location on those run-scoring pitches
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Wesneski in, interesting
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Wesneski always has that look on his face like he’s mustering up the courage to leave his locker and walk past the bullies that always take his lunch money.
andcountingQuote Reply
Nico! Happ!
PerkinsQuote Reply
It’s Happ-ening
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Wesneski reaching back for 98+ is fun
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Good Hayden tonight so far
berseliusQuote Reply
Damn he is cookin
berseliusQuote Reply
I don’t know if QBS (quality bullpen start) is a thing, but tonight’s game definitely argues in favor of its creation.
andcountingQuote Reply
Leiter!
PerkinsQuote Reply
Reds swinging at pitches in the dirt, you love to see it
berseliusQuote Reply
Leiter always gotta make it interesting
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Wasting a leadoff double, just like old times
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Fuck.
andcountingQuote Reply
Fastest man alive*
*at repeatedly walking back to the dugout after striking out
berseliusQuote Reply
Ah fuck.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Fack
berseliusQuote Reply
Phillies also useless
berseliusQuote Reply
What an insanely dumb pitch
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Terrible work tonight but just the one game
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What a stupid ending.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Wow, the Phillies were so briefly useful before deciding to shit the bed.
PerkinsQuote Reply
ffs phillies, a three run error?
berseliusQuote Reply
I can’t comprehend today’s rarity scores.
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andcountingQuote Reply
I guess I had no clue how many possibilities there were for so many of the squares, but if I’m not mistaken only one of my guesses failed to win an MVP. It’s not like I chose anyone obscure (other than Vinny Castilla, I guess, but he’s my go-to Rockie).
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Rarity score not nearly as impressive as AC’s.
PerkinsQuote Reply
I am amazed Brady Anderson didn’t win a Silver Slugger that one year he went nuts
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Rice CubeQuote Reply
Not that they would’ve gotten to the Cubs anyway but ain’t that a bitch https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/mlb/chicago-cubs/cubs-news/cubs-put-in-waiver-claims-for-two-pitchers-reports/504380/?amp=1
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Fun one today
berseliusQuote Reply
RIP Jimmy Buffett
https://twitter.com/UnfortunateMLB/status/1698016368992362965?t=UOvOlN4eW6EwoCyqCZirFw&s=19
Rice CubeQuote Reply
New strike zone calibration for AAA
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/triple-a-strike-zone-pitch-clock-being-tweaked-for-stretch-run/
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Tonight’s lineup
https://twitter.com/Cubs/status/1698060890967330914?t=VnfyuR1ljuLtsC-VKYH6aA&s=19
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Rice Cube,
https://twitter.com/KatiePetZim/status/1697924245731295420
berseliusQuote Reply
Rice Cube,
Whither Canario
berseliusQuote Reply
berselius,
#benched
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Didn’t know Assad had that quick of a pick off move
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Just saw a tourism ad for visiting Eagle River, while in Eagle River (dying laughing)
berseliusQuote Reply
Assad an assassin out there today
berseliusQuote Reply
At least they won’t be no-hit
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Hell of a play by Swanson there.
PerkinsQuote Reply
RISPitis is back.
andcountingQuote Reply
Jesus, Dansby.
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Lost a guess thinking KB was a SS and MVP.
Not watching game tonight. Watching Marvel instead with Mrs BVS.
BVSQuote Reply
Nico!
berseliusQuote Reply
That’s a world-class TOOTBLAN.
andcountingQuote Reply
andcounting,
Reds have been honoring Ryan Theriot tonight
berseliusQuote Reply
TFW you get runners on 1st and 2nd with nobody out and they both get thrown out at 2nd.
andcountingQuote Reply
🍭 man!
andcountingQuote Reply
Jeimer!
berseliusQuote Reply
Assad has been in a jam every inning, given up 7 hits and a walk, but he’s thrown just 78 pitches through 6. One of the weirder starts I can remember.
andcountingQuote Reply
Assad has been a depth godsend
berseliusQuote Reply
The Shawn Camp MVP of 2023
berseliusQuote Reply
berselius,
Without looking, I have to guess he’s leading the team in innings since taking over for Stroman.
andcountingQuote Reply
Goddamn, Assad is going out for the 8th? For a fill-in guy, he has been pretty studly.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Holy shit, eight shutout innings. Please hold on and win this one, Cubs.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Wow Assad
berseliusQuote Reply
Let’s get on the closer screwing
berseliusQuote Reply
Why does every game have to be exciting?
andcountingQuote Reply
Erds
berseliusQuote Reply
andcounting,
Seems like cosmic balance for that Marlins series
*deletes Wikipedia article on Gambler’s Fallacy*
berseliusQuote Reply
Not a fan of Leiter in the 9th.
andcountingQuote Reply
andcounting,
Bump
berseliusQuote Reply
Another TOOTBLAN would be (dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing)
berseliusQuote Reply
Dang, would have been the tootiest of blans
berseliusQuote Reply
This is a train wreck.
andcountingQuote Reply
This no longer feels like a game the Cubs can win.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Ugh
berseliusQuote Reply
Bringing in the guy who should have started the ninth
berseliusQuote Reply
Still think Ross is getting manager of the year votes?
andcountingQuote Reply
Dammit
berseliusQuote Reply
What the fuck was that?
PerkinsQuote Reply
Score some mfing runs
berseliusQuote Reply
Two heartbreakers in a row sigh
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Leiter absolutely needs a safety net every time he pitches. And Madrigal is the guy you want hitting with a runner on 3rd and LESS THAN two outs. Need a ground ball, obviously he’s your guy. Need a hit? Come on, man.
andcountingQuote Reply
Scoring just 1 or 2 runs is definitely a recipe for silliness like that, not giving Canario a start to see what he has is going to be a questionable decision at best considering some team slumps
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I suppose the best news is everyone close in the wild card race losing so far
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Arizona losing
Phillies had lost
SF about to lose
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Rice Cube,
Hooray
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Re-watching the “Four Days in October” 30 for 30 and reminded that the only player justifiably shunned from the Hall of Fame for something other than his baseball prowess is Alex Rodriguez. I’m open to suggestions, but I can’t think of a bigger cheater, a dirtier player, or a stankier piece of shit than ARod.
andcountingQuote Reply
Hmm, today’s lineup is again without Canario
https://twitter.com/Cubs/status/1698331056171053309?t=OqD9rEKNp_iZ_doquHRrIw&s=19
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andcounting,
He was obviously immensely talented but he was also tainted by all that baggage unlike the gentleman to his left who ironically couldn’t move very well to his left
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Rice Cube,
I think there might be value in giving the legs a rest and having him soak up wisdom in the clubhouse and dugout, but that’s probably me trying to galaxy brain this stuff
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Early game today
Cubs please win so berselius will post again (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Oops, guess Jayson Werth wasn’t that good of a fielder
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Rice CubeQuote Reply
Cubs are going to need 10 today.
andcountingQuote Reply
andcounting,
Or 20.
andcountingQuote Reply
Taillon can’t hold the early lead but at least this time he limited the damage
Rice CubeQuote Reply
andcounting,
I’d be fine with 20
Rice CubeQuote Reply
They did just make the opener throw damn near 50 pitches so maybe the Cubs will start digging in and scoring soon?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I don’t have any idea what Ross will do, but in the still dubious event that the Cubs make the postseason, I wouldn’t include Taillon on the roster.
andcountingQuote Reply
Goddamn that’s a terrible TOOTBLAN.
andcountingQuote Reply
andcounting,
Team’s best hitter coming up, it’s unacceptable to get thrown out at third on a 267-foot sac fly to left.
andcountingQuote Reply
What the actual fuck Taillon
Rice CubeQuote Reply
He’s just not an MLB-level player right now.
andcountingQuote Reply
Say what you want (or don’t, I can’t tell you what to do) about scoring more runs, the Cubs had those last two games won. To come away with neither after two brilliant pitching performances is what kept this series from being a success, and Ross shit the bed IMO. This game is very likely going to be a laugher in the Reds’ favor, but the really poor decisions came the past two games, especially last night. This game was probably hopeless anyway.
andcountingQuote Reply
Whatever they decide to do going forward, they need to find a creative way to minimize the damage Taillon does, this shitty start then cruise rest of the way stuff is annoying
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Rice Cube,
I honestly think his gameplan is to lull the other team to the point that they get bored hitting homeruns.
andcountingQuote Reply
I do believe however that they should keep Cody Bellinger
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Rice Cube,
I can’t argue with you today.
andcountingQuote Reply
Please mighty DeRosa who art in the studio, grant the Cubs the serenity to maintain this tie until they bat around to take the lead, hey hey amen 🙏
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I swear they just have to let Taillon do some live BP for his pregame bullpen so he gets all his shitty pitches out of the way before they actually count
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Rice Cube,
This is why I don’t believe in you anymore
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Cubs hold challenge enabled
Rice CubeQuote Reply
For as sure as those last two games felt like they would be wins, this one has yet to feel like a game the Cubs plan not to lose. At this point I’d be glad to be wrong a third consecutive time.
andcountingQuote Reply
Palencia holds!
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Please mighty DeRosa don’t forsake us
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Did the Reds sign Leiter?
andcountingQuote Reply
I can’t keep doing this every day.
andcountingQuote Reply
Rice Cube,
I will make many sacrifices at your altar, someone pour the Malort
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Is Canario a reliever?
andcountingQuote Reply
Pour it on, Cubs. Make this lead David Ross-proof.
PerkinsQuote Reply
MORE
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andcounting,
He is “depth”
Rice CubeQuote Reply
At least today’s contest is much more entertaining
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Never easy eh
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Approaching a Bears score, but not sure they can score this many points.
berseliusQuote Reply
Nico with the butt shot (dying laughing)
berseliusQuote Reply
M—-> inverted
berseliusQuote Reply
Cubs win in 3:17 which is pretty good for a high scoring game, I don’t think they’ve lost ground to anyone except the Brewers this weekend despite the two heartbreakers
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Brewers just lost, thanks former Cubs
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Great win, though it’s infuriating that the Cubs were so close to a four game sweep that would have ended the Reds’ season.
PerkinsQuote Reply
I do not think the Pirates will be much help against the Brewers so the Cubs will have to help themselves this week particularly against fellow wild card contenders…on the other hand, the Mariners might be able to do something against the Reds
Rice CubeQuote Reply
How about them Padres and Orioles today
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For your viewing pleasure until we post again
https://www.mlb.com/video/condensed-game-chc-cin-9-3-23
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I had a pretty weak grid today. Could have sworn Kevin Pillar had a GG with Toronto.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Giants have lost
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Arizona just lost
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Happy Labor Day
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berseliusQuote Reply
New shit –> http://www.obstructedview.net/the-next-phase/
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