I don’t even know what else there is to say about the dumpster fire in Cardinals-land. Will Oliver Marmol have a job by the end of the month? By the end of this series? The ‘play the game the right way’ nonsense with Tyler O’Neill was bad enough vibes, but then seeing the same pattern continue with this bananas Contreras quasi-benching is just ridiculous. Mike Matheny and TLR wouldn’t be doing this in a fever dream (dying laughing). Which is to say, I am so here for it.
Despite some of the comments from the offseason re the rivalry, I feel pretty bad for Contreras here. This Cardinals pitching staff sucks ass. When your rotation is screwed going into the season because 74 year old Adam Wainwright goes down, the finger should be pointing elsewhere. Willie’s defensive numbers behind the plate are right in line with where he’s been in the past – we can’t qualify the game calling stuff but even Yadi couldn’t cover up that big pile of shit. Contreras has more than done his part, skipping the WBC to get extra time with the pitchers and doing everything they’ve asked. He’s reached out to Yadi for help*. And even then, the PitchCom goes both ways. If the Cardinals pitchers are so immersed in whatever nonsense system they use, they can just call their own games. I don’t think the pitch clock precludes calling games from the dugout either.
*third-hand at this point, but Yadi basically told Contreras that he’s doing fine and the pitchers just aren’t executing. Then Marmol comes out with the following quote: “The reality is, it’s more than he’s ever had to do. Nothing against the way he’s done it, but it’s very different & it’s a lot of work.” I’m sure players love when your manager drops a quote that says you’re a lazy moron, and only feeds the…biases…of Cardinals fans. Maybe they can bring in Tim Tebow to catch?
Anyway, #FreeWillie, and enjoy the circus I guess. My joke about Skip Schumacher bringing the devil magic to Miami instead may actually have some legs.
Team Leaders
Switching to actual numbers on the year!
Urinals
- OBP: Lars Nootbaar (.442)
- ISO: Nolan Gorman (.263)
- HR: Gorman (7)
- R+RBI: Goldschmidt/Gorman (34)
- wRC+: Paul DeJong (165)
- BSR: Brendan Donovan (1.1)
- Defense: Nolan Arenado (2.4)
- SP K/9: Jack Flaherty (9.44)
- SP BB/9: Jordan Montgomery (1.98)
- SP FIP: Montgomery (2.87)
- RP K/9: Jordan Hicks (15.23)
- RP BB/9: Chris Stratton (0.90)
- RP FIP: Stratton (2.41)
- WAR: Goldy (1.4)
Cubs
- OBP: Happ (.431)
- ISO: Wisdom (.358)
- HR: Wisdom (11)
- R+RBI: Belli (45)
- wRC+: Happ (150)
- BSR: Hoerner (2.5)
- Defense: Swanson (3.5)
- SP K/9: Taillon (10.59)
- SP BB/9: Smyly (2.11)
- SP FIP: Taillon (2.48)
- RP K/9: Leiter (14.79)
- RP BB/9: Alzolay (1.72)
- RP FIP: Alzolay (2.47)
- WAR: Belli (1.5)
Who isn’t available?
Cyle is still rehabbing his shoulder injury, and probably won’t be back for a few weeks. He swing by Chicago to get some coaching from the big league staff and will have at least one more start. Yan Gomes is on the concussion IL, but was able to take BP over the weekend which is a great sign. Brandon Hughes is back on the IL with a knee injury, but it sounds like he’ll rejoin the team without a rehab assignment once it’s up. RP Codi Heuer made his first rehab appearance following Tommy John last year, and looked great, hitting 99 on the gun. If all goes well he’ll be a flamethrowing reinforcement in a month or so.
For the Cardinals, aside from the self-inflicted wounds above, OG Scapegoat Tyler O’Neill is on the IL with a back strain. Willie is day to day with an ankle injury.
Pitching Matchups, game times
2023 K/9, BB/9, ERA, FIP listed for all starters
Monday: Miles Mikolas, RHP (8.20, 2.17, 5.79, 4.94) vs Marcus Stroman, RHP (8.27, 3.48, 2.18, 3.70), 6:40 PM CT
Tuesday: Jack Flaherty, RHP (9.44, 5.77, 6.29, 5.43) vs Jameson Taillon, RHP (10.59, 2.12, 5.29, 2.48), 6:40 PM CT
Woden’s day: Jordan Montgomery, LHP (8.34, 1.98, 3.29, 2.87) vs Justin Steele, LHP (7.48, 2.28, 1.45, 3.20) 6:40 PM CT
Comments
That must have been the least boring St. Louis has ever been with all those coordinated dumpster fires
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I suppose it really isn’t Willson’s fault (at least not completely) if the rotation blow but these are interesting points to consider
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Heh, this Cardinals catching issue thing is everywhere, they even started a new Athletic podcast on it
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Lots of articles about this STL tire fire situation
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Rice Cube,
Still baffling at how much the Cardinals FO has been able to frame this story as catching intangibles and not just their starters being shitty (dying laughing). This sucks for Contreras but at least he got paid before this nonsense happened.
berseliusQuote Reply
He caught a fucking no-hitter in 2021, but I guess that had nothing to do with him. Insane that Robothal is joining this concern trolling.
berseliusQuote Reply
Guessing it’s because Contreras is the new guy in town. Easier/simpler to blame one guy than to acknowledge the front office’s failure to construct a good rotation. Plus “he’s not Yadi” is probably an easy sell to the knuckle dragging fanbase.
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RynoQuote Reply
(dying laughing)
welcome back
berseliusQuote Reply
From the comments on Jaffe’s fg piece on the tire fire
berseliusQuote Reply
berselius,
Scaring off personnel the right way TM patent pending
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Someone on Twitter posted a video suggesting Christopher Morel is in Chicago
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Rice Cube,
Was he wearing a purple shirt near a coffee shop?
berseliusQuote Reply
berselius,
The shirt may be a very dark shade of purple and I believe there was a Starbucks around the corner on Clark if that is (I’m assuming) Clark and Waveland they’re at, also kind of funny they have a Cubs themed transport van even if all it really says is “Chicago”
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I mean yeah that’s a pretty good reason to go on the IL
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/05/ryan-yarbrough-leaves-game-after-line-drive-to-the-face.html
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Rice Cube,
Big (welt) if true.
berseliusQuote Reply
Cardinals lineup with Willson grounded from catching
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Poor Nelly, didn’t do as much as he could with the few opportunities he was given so back to Iowa he goes
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Tonight’s lineup, Morel on bench
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Upon further review, I think he’s out…
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berselius,
More fun with comments on this situation (dying laughing)
berseliusQuote Reply
I also saw someone arguing that since Yadi always called games for the Cards veteran pitchers, it’s unfair to ask them to call their own game (dying laughing).
berseliusQuote Reply
Guess the Cardinals applied for the ovation exemption
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Rice Cube,
That’ll be next inning
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Really curious to hear the reception for Willson.
andcountingQuote Reply
Seiya 😔
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andcounting,
It was nice actually, at least until he got that hit (dying laughing)
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Rice Cube,
Thank goodness he can still defense
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They should score a few runs for Stroman IMO
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How was that foul?
andcountingQuote Reply
Nico please don’t be broken
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andcounting,
The umpire wasn’t looking at it so it’s Schrodinger’s call
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I would have thought upon replay they’d have seen Occam’s chalk dust.
andcountingQuote Reply
I think we are allowed to make fun of Madrigal and his stumpy legs again
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Good thing they put in Madrigal instead of Morel.
andcountingQuote Reply
God, I hate that pieceofshitrigal.
andcountingQuote Reply
andcounting,
In theory I guess it makes sense to deploy the bat anywhere else in the lineup as the situation arises, in practice that was a decision doomed to failure.
Stroman striking out Goldy twice is unexpected but fun
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(dying laughing) Willson
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Not scoring while relying on this bullpen to be perfect is some strategy
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I’m gonna go do something else and assume they walk it off by the time I get back, yuk
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Podcast gonna be lit if the Cubs don’t figure out how to score some runs soon or even tomorrow night during the scheduled record (dying laughing)
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At least they made the closer throw some pitches
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Silver linings are supposed to be good, RC.
andcountingQuote Reply
I’m really not looking forward to the eventual narrative that this series helped the Cardinals right the ship.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Perkins,
Since that would be unfortunate, I say the Cubs should just blow them out these next two days before the off day
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Today is my birthday, so I fully expect Ross to start Nick Madrigal at every position including DH (in a misguided attempt to ensure pitcher Nick Madrigal doesn’t have to hit for his damn self).
andcountingQuote Reply
andcounting,
I think you’d have a good chance of getting a win if Nick channels his inner Bugs Bunny
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andcounting,
Also happy birthday, jabroni
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Rice Cube,
Thank you! Unfortunately Nick lacks the rugged build and brute strength of a bunny.
andcountingQuote Reply
andcounting,
Wonder if he knows how to throw that Bigs Bunny changeup though
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andcounting,
Breaking – pat hughes out today, Judd Sirott being pulled out of whatever hole he was pushed into to call the game.
berseliusQuote Reply
Aaron Judge –> back in session
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berselius,
What Willy really needs to ask Yadi about is the best way to conceal that spider tack gunk on his equipment.
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uncle dave,
I had to look it up to recall why he wasn’t ejected but I guess sticky stuff on equipment isn’t an ejectable offense
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/19094865/ball-sticks-chest-protector-st-louis-cardinals-catcher-yadier-molina
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Rice Cube,
Yeah, I mean, everyone does it. It’s just always kind of fun when they crack down on some grey area behavior and you find out who did it more than everyone else…
uncle daveQuote Reply
Given how Cubs injuries have been dealt with in the past they might as well bring back Nelly and give Nico the 10 days off, but I’m not in charge
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I’m gonna test to see if we can make a Cubby Facepalm hat (obviously can’t sell it on OV since this is New Era but I’d enjoy it)
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Rice Cube,
BOOOOOOOO I have to use their stupid logos, lame (dying laughing)
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Hey who wants to read the new CBA?
https://www.mlbplayers.com/_files/ugd/4d23dc_88609b8210174cfa9fee95fc2be279af.pdf
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Tonight’s lineup, guaranteed to piss AC off on his birthday unless Madrigal hits a leadoff bomb (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
The only way Madrigal will hit a bomb is if I plant it in his driveway.
Jesus HF Christ.
andcountingQuote Reply
andcounting,
Probably hit the bomb right back to the pitcher too
Rice CubeQuote Reply
In retrospect maybe this could be some kind of rival-destroying plan
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This running breakdown is very helpful
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/details-from-the-new-2022-2026-collective-bargaining-agreement/
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Rice Cube,
Pulls into driveway, doesn’t hit bomb square, it skitters off to the side onto the bushes where AC is watching. “Hope your birthday is a bomb!” card he got from Berselius is prescient.
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Zach McKinstrey 2023
WAR AB H HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
0.0 73 19 2 6 4 1 10 19 .260 .345 .411 .756
Nick Madrigal
WAR AB H HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
-0.1 62 16 0 6 2 2 2 6 .258 .292 .323 .615
Might have traded the wrong end-of-bench IF, bút it’s close.
Formatting isn’t my strong suit
BVSQuote Reply
For what it’s worth, I hit a HR with Nick Madrigal in MLB 23 The Show yesterday. So it’s in the realm of possibility (dying laughing).
PerkinsQuote Reply
Perkins,
How much did you have to move the sliders?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
It would be so nice for the Cubs to win another series while they decide whether or not Nico needs a stint on the IL
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I guess the Vegas move is real now
https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/1656069993124220932?t=0Ow7K5-_yltMuSbO31rPdw&s=19
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Blessed Lady of Batting Around, instill these Cubs with confidence and offense tonight
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I will be very happy when Taillon remembers that he is supposed to be good but I guess shit happens sometimes
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I swear I called that Hosmer result three seconds before it happened but I was just following GameDay while shopping for salad (dying laughing)
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Rice Cube,
Not at all, but got insanely lucky timing and locating a swing perfectly. I’ve actually been using him regularly at DH because his contact skills are so strong.
PerkinsQuote Reply
I see this will be another of *those* games.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Next time through should hopefully be better but they should also try not to hit it to Arenado even if the outs appear routine hehe
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Perkins,
I’d like that to manifest in real life more please
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Taillon staaaaaaahp
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I suppose I should be glad I am not watching this game so once again I’ll assume they figure it out while I continue not watching
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Fan of the Madrigal leadoff experiment so far (dying laughing)
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Yay Dansby
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Rice Cube,
Nooooooooooooooooooo!
andcountingQuote Reply
Poor Seiya is in a funk but they also should try to do the loading of the bases before two outs IMO
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Letting Hosmer take that AB was negligent.
PerkinsQuote Reply
berseliusQuote Reply
berselius,
I can’t argue with you today
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Cubs lose
PerkinsQuote Reply
Incredible relief appearance/quasi-start from Assad but I have no idea why he came back out for the 9th, even with the Cubs depleted pen
berseliusQuote Reply
I think we should blame this loss on Eric Hosmer (dying laughing)
But honestly a lot to go around tonight
Rice CubeQuote Reply
four double plays…and counting
berseliusQuote Reply
(dying laughing) I thought they were going to let Assad wear it but I guess they had to quick warm up some other guy, in this case Rucker, WTF are they doing?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I like Swanson’s game and Seiya getting on base a couple times even though I think he got a couple gift strikes, plus Morel’s bomb, but the rest of that game…ick
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Grumble.
andcountingQuote Reply
George Santos –> probably not going to pitch for the Cubs anytime soon
Rice CubeQuote Reply
It’s kind of a bummer that despite his flagging velocity and the part where he kinda sucks, the Cubs couldn’t score more off Flaherty
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(dying laughing)
berseliusQuote Reply
berselius,
Yeah I wish they could just cancel our debts and stuff like when corporations restructure or banks and industries fail or whatever
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Gomes returning to the lineup and the Cubs trouncing the Cardinals would absolutely be the narrative maker.
andcountingQuote Reply
Tonight’s Cubs lineup
https://twitter.com/Cubs/status/1656410182216286210?t=4cWpqR64pxDmm3x7iLobIw&s=19
Hoping for a sideways sigma
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Smh Willson at making the pitcher late to cover first there.
berseliusQuote Reply
Man, Morel got kinda screwed there
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Someone should tell the Cubs they can get on base before there are two outs.
PerkinsQuote Reply
Just happy to see someone other than Seiya or Hosmer up with the bases clogged
berseliusQuote Reply
That would have been a fun play
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berselius,
I think Seiya will be fine but Hosmer should probably go away (dying laughing)
Rice CubeQuote Reply
I think they need to start throwing to the inside part to Willson, middle or away is bad news
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New shit you can listen to (but thankfully not smell) if you are displeased with the current game, you can hear us be sort of displeased about last night’s game during the recording while trying not to disseminate without the express written consent of MLB
http://www.obstructedview.net/podcast/dreamcast-59-shrug-emoji/
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