Some thoughts on the new CBA

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Earlier this week MLB owners reached an agreement with the MLBPA on a new collective bargaining agreement. There was never any doubt as to whether it would get finished, which is nice considering the work stoppages in the NHL in recent years, NBA’s current lockout resulting in many missed games (maybe an entire season) and even NFL’s long lockout this year. I expected only slight changes to the last CBA, but they didn’t do that at all. It’s an entirely new CBA, which is kind of impressive when you consider the amout of time it took to get it done.

Many people have weighed on how they thought this was going to affect MLB or their favorite teams, but the truth is that we don’t really know yet. We can take them point by point and see how it may affect the Cubs to get a better idea. It’s not like the overall CBA is helpful to one type of team and hurtful to another. There are many parts to it and some will be beneficial while others will create a disadvantage.

Type A’s, B’s, and the Elias system will be eliminated, no relievers can steal another team’s draft pick and only players who are with a team for a full season are eligible for draft pick compensation.

There’s really more than one topic here, but it’s easy enough to combine these. The Elias system was a joke. Non-ace relievers would often be type A free agents resulting in teams losing a 1st round draft pick if they signed him. That’s nonsense and I’m glad this is gone. It’s equally nice that teams can no longer acquire a player at the trade deadline who will be a type A or type B free agent and be eligible to receive compensation.

I don’t think too many people have issues with these changes. I think most fans are in agreement that these are good decisions.

In order to receive compensation you have to offer a one-year guaranteed contract that at least matches what the top 125 players were paid, on average, the previous season. The quiet period (period in which teams had exclusive negotiating rights to their own free agents) was reduced from 10 days to 5. This guaranteed offer must be made within those 5 days and the player has 7 days to accept or decline.

That is going to be a sizable guaranteed contract that teams have to offer in order to receive compensation. I quickly looked through each team’s 2011 player salaries and counted 104 players who made at least $8 million. Drop that to $7 million and there are over 125 players. I’m way too lazy to calculate the average of the top 125, but would guess it’s at least $10 million last season. That’s a huge change. MLB is speeding things up by reducing the quiet period and forcing players to accept or decline arbitration. These are both good things in my opinion.

If a team signs a guy who was offered this guaranteed contract the signing team gives up its first round draft pick unless it’s a top 10 pick. In previous years, the top 15 picks were protected so that has been lowered. They would then give up their 2nd round pick if it’s a protected pick and the other team also gets a compensatory pick.

There are still ways for teams to collect draft picks as they have in the past, but it’s going to be much more difficult. It’s also going to require a large commitment from the team. The difference is that teams aren’t going to collect guys making little money they think can bring them a draft pick because they’d have to offer that player a large amount of money.

I have no problems at all regarding draft pick compensation changes. I think most, if not all of them, are good for the game.

Playoffs expansion and the Astros to the AL West

I really don’t have much of an opinion on playoff expansion. I am glad to see that the leagues will be evened out giving teams a more equal chance of reaching the postseason.

Draft spending limitations

This is the big change. In years past there was no maximum amount of money a team could spend in the draft or on international free agents. Beginning next year there are. A team picking first will get roughly $11.5 million to spend on its first ten rounds. The team picking last will have about $4.5 million. After round 10 teams can spend more freely, but not as they could in the past. Any signing bonus over $100,000 is subject to the same penalties as the first ten rounds. Those penalties are severe.

If a team goes just 5% over their slot recommendation, they pay a 75% tax. If they go over by 5-10% they pay the same 75% tax, but lose next year’s first round pick. If a team goes 10-15% over, they pay 100% tax and lose their first and second round picks the following year. If a team exceeds the recommendation by more than 15% they pay the same 100% tax, but lose first rounders the next two years. International free agents are similar.

This is the one that people have been trying to figure out if it’s good or bad for their favorite team. I can’t answer that, but I do know that the Strasburg contracts are a thing of the past. The signing bonuses will be brought down because the penalties are too severe. Many people have argued that this may cause two sport stars to play football instead. I don’t really believe this. Take an 18-year old out of high school and shove a $3 million check in front of his face, why is he less likely to accept that and go to college to play football than he would be if its a $7 million check?

This just doesn’t make sense to me. The difference between $3 million and $7 million for an 18-year old kid isn’t all that much. He still has the very same decision to make: go to college and potentially earn a lot more in the NFL or take that guaranteed money, play baseball and be set for life. The risks are still the same too: take the money and be set for life or play college football and risk injury or never getting that kind of money later on. I don’t believe this is going to have the impact that some others think. I believe this will have very little impact on an 18-year old’s decision. The only reason it seems like it does now is because they’ve been wanting as much as they can get. The difference is that the most they can get has been lowered.

I think much about nothing is being made about two-sport stars. I’d also challenge someone to name the two-sport stars who have starred at the MLB level. Here’s a list courtesy of Wikipedia

Baseball

  • Frank Baumholtz – Played in the BAA for 2 seasons with the Cleveland Rebels.
  • Jamie Burke – Current Washington Nationals catcher, was a kicker on Oregon State’s football team
  • Gene Conley – Played in the NBA with the Boston Celtics and the New York Knicks.
  • Chuck Connors – Played basketball for the Boston Celtics in 1946 and got drafted by the Chicago Bears in 1952.
  • Carl Crawford – was offered scholarships to play American football for the University of Nebraska and basketball before concentrating on baseball.[31]
  • Alvin Dark – played college football at LSU and Southwestern Louisiana Institute
  • Mark DeRosa – Played quarterback at the University of Pennsylvania.
  • Josh Fields– Played quarterback at Oklahoma State.
  • Bob Gibson – Played on the Harlem Globetrotters from 1957–1958.
  • Kirk Gibson – 1978 College Football All-America Team wide receiver; drafted by the Arizona Cardinals in the 7th round of the 1979 NFL draft.
  • Tom Glavine – Was drafted by the Los Angeles Kings in the NHL.
  • Dick Groat – Played for the Fort Wayne Pistons in the NBA in 1952.
  • Tony Gwynn – A former basketball stand-out who was drafted by both the San Diego Clippers and San Diego Padres on the same day.
  • Steve Hamilton – Played in the NBA for the Minneapolis Lakers.
  • Todd Helton – Played quarterback at the University of Tennessee
  • Mark Hendrickson – Played four seasons in the NBA.
  • Bo Jackson – won the Heisman Trophy, and was an all-pro in the National Football League and also played on a semi-pro basketball team in Los Angeles before returning to baseball.
  • Fergie Jenkins – Played for the Harlem Globetrotters.
  • Brian Jordan – Was a defensive back for the Atlanta Falcons.
  • Kenny Lofton – Played basketball at the University of Arizona.
  • Joe Maddon – Played football and baseball at Lafayette College.
  • Joe Mauer – Played quarterback, point guard, and catcher in high school, and was named USA Today High School Player of the Year, twice: in 2000 for football and 2001 for baseball.
  • Nyjer Morgan – Besides playing in the MLB, he played hockey and reached the Major Junior level with the Regina Pats of the Western Hockey League in 1999–2000
  • Curtis Pride – Played for the U.S.A. FIFA soccer team in China and played point guard at William & Mary.
  • Ron Reed – Played in the NBA for the Detroit Pistons.
  • Dave Ricketts – Also played in the MLB and played basketball with his brother at Duquesne University.
  • Dick Ricketts – Played for the NBA’s Atlanta Hawks, Cincinnati Royals, and multiple other teams.
  • Robin Roberts – Was a pitcher in the MLB and played college basketball for Michigan State University
  • Jackie Robinson – played professional football in the PCPFL, and ran track at UCLA.
  • Jeff Samardzija – Played wide receiver at Notre Dame.
  • Ryne Sandberg – Was offered a football scholarship from the Washington State Cougars football team to play quarterback.
  • Tim Stoddard – Member of the 1973–1974 N.C. State Wolfpack NCAA Basketball Championship team.
  • Herb Washington – a former college sprinter at Michigan State University
  • Dave Winfield – was drafted by four professional teams in three different sports – basketball, baseball and American football, before deciding to concentrate on his baseball career.[31]
  • John Smoltz – Played in the South Georgia Classic golf tournament on the Nationwide Tour and finished last with +15.

Almost all of these players were drafted when signing bonuses were kept in check. Ths just isn’t an issue.

The impact on the Cubs will be felt in the immediate future. Ricketts had planned to invest heavily in player development, but that’s not going to happen. The Cubs will instead invest a few million more in their MLB roster. When they do build a quality farm system, as a contender they’d be more likely to throw a few million more into the MLB team than investing it in player development. At this point it will have little impact. The Cubs won’t be able to rebuild as quickly as they wanted to, which kind of sucks, but you know who else won’t be able to rebuild as quickly? The small market teams who are now going to be forced to spend more on free agents if they want to contend.

International free agency

As for international free agents, teams have the same amount of money to spend in 2012 and 2013, but after that the amount a team has to spend is determined by their winning percentage. A lower winning percentage would mean you can spend more. If a team goes 5% over their allowed money, they pay a 75% tax. If they go 5-10% over they pay the 75% tax and they are unable to signing more than one player to a bonus more than $500,000 in the next year. If they go 10-15% over they pay a 100% tax and can’t sign a player for more than $500,000. At 15% or more over the limit they pay 100% tax and cannot spend $250,000 on any international free agent the next year.

This has a similar impact on the Cubs in that it will be more difficult to rebuild quickly, but in the long run it shouldn’t have much affect.

If a worldwide draft is not in place by 2015 the penalties will be more severe. I hate the idea of a worldwide draft and hope it never happens. It’s one thing to force American born players into indentured servitude, but quite another to force foreign born players into it. It’s just bullshit.

With the next international free agenting signing period all teams will have $2.9 million to spend and by 2014 it will range from $1.8 million and $5 million.

Cubans 23 and under will count as international free agents. Japanese players do not count. Look for teams like the Cubs to exploit that and spend more money in Japan in the coming years.

Arbitration

The top 22% of players with between 2 and 3 years of MLB service time now qualify as Super-Two and are eligible for arbitration. That’s up from 17%. This will have no immediate impact on the Cubs. Starlin Castro was all but assured of already being a Super-Two after this season so this doesn’t change that.

Teams now have only until December 2nd to tender contracts to arbitration eligible players.

HGH Testing

Players won’t be tested during the season without suspicion and based on comments from people on this site I take that to mean it’s highly unlikely any non-retarded player will be caught using HGH. The tests also may not even be reliable.

Replay

This is expanding to include fair/foul balls as well as trapped catches. I think every person would agree this is a progress.

Rosters

MLB rosters will expand to 26 for some doubleheaders and I still don’t know what “some” doubleheaders mean. Why not all doubleheaders?

League minimum increases to $480,000.

Overall

I actually like a lot of the new CBA and dislike some of it. I dislike how the MLBPA continues to shit on the young players so they can gain a few extra bucks, but we knew that was going to happen and it’s going to continue to happen. I do like the changes to arbitration, draft pick compensation and I don’t believe the draft pick or intenrational free agent signing limitations are going to have much affect on the Cubs in the long run. I believe those limitations are going to hurt most the smaller market teams that rely on the draft in ways that large market teams do not. The Rays had nearly twice as many top 5 round picks as the Yankees over the last 5 or 6 years. That won’t happen and that’s a good thing. The Rays won’t be able to collect 10 of the first 60 picks in a draft again. I’d like to think the only people who don’t see that as a good thing are Rays fans.

I don’t really care about the HGH testing. Nobody has shown any evidence that HGH improves performance so why an MLB player would be taking the shit is beyond me. That person deserves to get busted for being stupid so I just don’t care.


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  1. mb21

    Three other things…

    1. no new players can use low density maple bats. This is obviously smart.

    2. There’s a sexual orientation clause in the CBA. This is also good though I doubt it changes a damn thing.

    3. Chewing tobacco is banned. This is just plain stupid.

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  2. Berselius

    I’m guessing the “some” doubleheaders are planned ones. Hopefully it encourages teams to schedule some more. If it’s a rain delay one probably no expansion.

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  3. mb21

    Here’s what they say on mlb.com and the summary of the cba: d. Active Roster limits will be expanded to 26 for certain regular or split doubleheaders.

    I’m going to guess it has to do with how many days in a row a team has played. Teams aren’t going to schedule doubleheaders. The players wouldn’t allow that.

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  4. Suburbankid 22

    You know how addicted I am to my stupid phone? I was digging around in my pocket searching for it with my right hand, when I realized it was in my left hand. And I was looking at it.

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  5. mb21

    [quote name=Suburbankid 22]I’ve never been allowed to chew tobacco at my job.[/quote]I’m assuming you’re inside and I’m also assuming that arguments could be made that others chewing would negatively affect the work performance of others. Can anyone really make that argument in baseball? I’ve never heard about a player being disgusted by this and I find it almost impossible to believe if it did that it would have any affect on his performance.

    I can understand smoking as it’s harmful to others, but not this.

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  6. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Suburbankid 22]You know how addicted I am to my stupid phone? I was digging around in my pocket searching for it with my right hand, when I realized it was in my left hand. And I was looking at it.[/quote]SK —> cyborg

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  7. mb21

    This was designed to please the fans and using the word “banning” makes it sound like MLB actually did something, but they didn’t and I’m glad.

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  8. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]So chewing tobacco wasn’t actually banned. Whoever came up with that word should be fired for incompetence.[/quote]This “ban” sounds like more of a restriction of overt use as part of a public relations thing. They don’t want kids seeing the players chewing crap and spitting tar out of their mouths.

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  9. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]This was designed to please the fans and using the word “banning” makes it sound like MLB actually did something, but they didn’t and I’m glad.[/quote]
    The released portion of the CBA governing this is here:

    VIII.. HEALTH AND SAFETY
    a. Players, managers, and coaches will be prohibited from using smokeless tobacco during
    televised interviews and Club appearances. In addition, at any time when fans are permitted in
    the ballpark, players, managers and coaches must conceal tobacco products (including
    packages and tins), and may not carry tobacco products in their uniforms or on their bodies.
    Individuals who violate the policy will be subject to discipline. The parties also agreed upon an
    extensive program of education and public outreach regarding the dangers of smokeless
    tobacco.
    b. The parties agreed on a program of mandatory evaluation by a trained professional for Players
    who are suspected of an alcohol use problem (including Players who are arrested for DWI or
    other crimes involving alcohol), and for players who are arrested for crimes involving the use of
    force or violence.

    So basically they can’t show that they’re chewing on TV or during live play. It basically becomes a modified version of a “no smoking at work” policy.

    The alcohol thing is interesting too. Sounds a lot more stringent than whatever they did before, i.e. when guys like Miguel Cabrera and Shin-Soo Choo drove drunk and MLB didn’t seem to do much of anything if at all.

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  10. mb21

    The parties also agreed upon an
    extensive program of education and public outreach regarding the dangers of smokeless
    tobacco.
    b. The parties agreed on a program of mandatory evaluation by a trained professional for Players
    who are suspected of an alcohol use problem (including Players who are arrested for DWI or
    other crimes involving alcohol), and for players who are arrested for crimes involving the use of
    force or violence.

    Don’t know what any of that will really lead to, but I like it. I’d have liked to have seen domestic abuse specifically addressed and hopefully it will in the next one. I also liked the inclusion of sexual orientation in the CBA.

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  11. Suburbankid 22

    [quote name=mb21]I’m assuming you’re inside and I’m also assuming that arguments could be made that others chewing would negatively affect the work performance of others. Can anyone really make that argument in baseball? I’ve never heard about a player being disgusted by this and I find it almost impossible to believe if it did that it would have any affect on his performance.

    I can understand smoking as it’s harmful to others, but not this.[/quote]It’s gross.

    I don’t care enough to argue, but I’d bet anything there are players who find it disgusting. Don’t know if they have complained about it, or feel like they can complain about.

    I know they’re outside, but they’re together every day for months at a time. Being around all that tobacco chewing and spitting would piss me off. On the other hand, maybe I’d get used to it.

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  12. Recalcitrant Blogger Nate

    [quote name=Suburbankid 22]It’s gross.

    I don’t care enough to argue, but I’d bet anything there are players who find it disgusting. Don’t know if they have complained about it, or feel like they can complain about.

    I know they’re outside, but they’re together every day for months at a time. Being around all that tobacco chewing and spitting would piss me off. On the other hand, maybe I’d get used to it.[/quote]I grew up around it, and did it myself for several years. I can’t imagine how it could be banned. It’s a legal controlled substance. There’s no evidence whatsoever that it effects job performance in any negative way. Are they going to ban caffeine next? what the fuck? If it doesn’t effect performance in a negative way, they have no basis to ban it; its a right of the player to use it (assuming he;s above age 18, which is the law). I’d wager that the crotch-grabbing associated with baseball offends people more than the tobacco, at least I know that’s the case with my wife (dying laughing)

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  13. Aisle424

    Any chemistry nerds out there? My sister has a question that I don’t even understand, but if someone can help her out, I’ll pass it along:

    Question to all the science nerds out there, have any of you either dried or frozen a 15% PAGE gel for footprinting? Any tips so that it wont crack?

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  14. mb21

    [quote name=Suburbankid 22]It’s gross.

    I don’t care enough to argue, but I’d bet anything there are players who find it disgusting. Don’t know if they have complained about it, or feel like they can complain about.

    I know they’re outside, but they’re together every day for months at a time. Being around all that tobacco chewing and spitting would piss me off. On the other hand, maybe I’d get used to it.[/quote]Keep in mind we’re talking about a group of guys who do the strangest freaking things (remember Cesar Izturis after Ramirez’s walk-off?): http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f9e_1183420047

    These aren’t normal people. If you don’t mind someone doing that, or you even seem to get excited about doing that stuff, I have no sympathy if any of them are grossed out over tobacco. What happened there was odd and disgusting and i it was anything else it would be sexual abuse.

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  15. mb21

    [quote name=Recalcitrant Blogger Nate]I grew up around it, and did it myself for several years. I can’t imagine how it could be banned. It’s a legal controlled substance. There’s no evidence whatsoever that it effects job performance in any negative way. Are they going to ban caffeine next? what the fuck? If it doesn’t effect performance in a negative way, they have no basis to ban it; its a right of the player to use it (assuming he;s above age 18, which is the law). I’d wager that the crotch-grabbing associated with baseball offends people more than the tobacco, at least I know that’s the case with my wife (dying laughing)[/quote]I agree, Nate. That’s a great point about the crotch grabbing. I don’t care if someone spits on tv. I’d mind it if they spit on my lawn, but they’re spitting on their own lawn. I would mind if someone was grabbing his nuts frequently across the street. That’s just fucked up.

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  16. mb21

    I’ve never chewed. I just find it to be one of those things that nobody can even argue that 1) it’s unhealthy for others to be around or 2) that it would affect performance on a baseball field. Furthermore, nobody can argue that it affects attendance or viewers watching on tv.

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  17. Rice Cube

    [quote name=Rice Cube]In my experience you can just use a regular gel-drying kit, available from just about any bio company. Like this one:

    http://www.promega.com/products/biochemicals-and-labware/tips-and-accessories/gel-drying-kit/

    The gel should be fine indefinitely.[/quote]I think some of the other nerds can do a better job explaining it than I, but I think once a gel has been frozen that’s pretty much it. I figure you have to do all the manipulations (cutting out a band, footprinting/toeprinting, etc) and take an image of the output before you preserve it. I’ve never actually tried to preserve an agarose gel but I have done plenty of acrylamide gels.

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  18. Aisle424

    [quote name=Rice Cube]I think some of the other nerds can do a better job explaining it than I, but I think once a gel has been frozen that’s pretty much it. I figure you have to do all the manipulations (cutting out a band, footprinting/toeprinting, etc) and take an image of the output before you preserve it. I’ve never actually tried to preserve an agarose gel but I have done plenty of acrylamide gels.[/quote]Thanks, RC. Passing along the info.

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  19. JMan

    Does the contract signed by draftees count against current year or can teams sign long term deals eliminating a bonus and instead have a year long salary?
    I also think the 26 man roster for DHs is a preemptive move for eventually having each team schedule multiple DHs. They could the expand the one game WC playoff to a 3 or 5 game set without the playoffs go into November.

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  20. JMan

    I am wondering if teams will start to poach young Japanese talent before they sign with a team in Japan. There’s always been a unwritten Agreement that MLB teams would not do so but with the need to find a competitive advantage I wonder if a team will break that rule.

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  21. mb21

    Teams can no longer sign drafted players to MLB contracts. I’m assuming that’s also true for 23 and younger international free agents.

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  22. mb21

    [quote name=JMan]I am wondering if teams will start to poach young Japanese talent before they sign with a team in Japan. There’s always been a unwritten Agreement that MLB teams would not do so but with the need to find a competitive advantage I wonder if a team will break that rule.[/quote]I think that’s exactly what will happen.

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  23. Rice Cube

    [quote name=JMan]Does the contract signed by draftees count against current year or can teams sign long term deals eliminating a bonus and instead have a year long salary?
    I also think the 26 man roster for DHs is a preemptive move for eventually having each team schedule multiple DHs. They could the expand the one game WC playoff to a 3 or 5 game set without the playoffs go into November.[/quote]I hadn’t thought of that, but I wonder how much teams want to preemptively schedule doubleheaders as I always thought teams couldn’t take in as much money if they did so unless both games were separate admission.

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  24. mb21

    The players hate doubleheaders. The owners aren’t fans unless they’re split admissions. I don’t see MLB going back to scheduling DH’s.

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  25. GW

    [quote name=Rice Cube]In my experience you can just use a regular gel-drying kit, available from just about any bio company. Like this one:

    http://www.promega.com/products/biochemicals-and-labware/tips-and-accessories/gel-drying-kit/

    The gel should be fine indefinitely.[/quote]
    that’s what we use too. to prevent cracking, make sure to soak the cellulose and the gel in a buffer with glycerol (i think we use 10% EtOH, 5% glycerol), and smooth out all the air bubbles before hand.

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  26. GW

    [quote name=Rice Cube]II figure you have to do all the manipulations (cutting out a band, footprinting/toeprinting, etc) and take an image of the output before you preserve it.[/quote]
    yeah, this too.

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  27. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]Yeah, I’m pretty sure Penn State isn’t winning this game (dying laughing)[/quote]You’re really going out on a limb on this one. (dying laughing)

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  28. Rice Cube

    [quote name=mb21]You’re really going out on a limb on this one. (dying laughing)[/quote]It was in doubt with only a 35-point lead, but that fumbled punt return gave Wisconsin all the breathing room they needed.

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  29. mb21

    [quote name=Rice Cube]It was in doubt with only a 35-point lead, but that fumbled punt return gave Wisconsin all the breathing room they needed.[/quote]I’ll take a wait and see approach.

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  30. GW

    Another side effect I expect from this CBA is fewer prospects being traded, which will suck. With free agents being more expensive, and prospects being more difficult to acquire through the draft/ifa, I expect teams to demand a premium for them in trades.

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  31. mb21

    [quote name=GW]Another side effect I expect from this CBA is fewer prospects being traded, which will suck. With free agents being more expensive, and prospects being more difficult to acquire through the draft/ifa, I expect teams to demand a premium for them in trades.[/quote]I don’t think there will be much of a difference for the reasons you suggested in an email exchange we once had. Speaking of that, there’s a great article in the THT Annual that talks a little about that . I’ve been meaning to write something up on that article (I know Tango did a little bit).

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  32. Rice Cube

    [quote name=JMan]Framcona would be a fantastic replacement.[/quote]I heard he was interviewing for FOX, but maybe ESPN is on the job list too.

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  33. fang2415

    Soo what does the CBA mean for the Cubs zillion-dollar new facility in the Dominican? Are they not going to be able to offer good contracts to the players they train now? Or would that not have happened anyway?

    Also, what’s the difference between an MLB contract and a fuck-off huge MiLB contract? Is there a salary cap for MiLB or something? I assume there must be something to prevent a team from giving a newly drafted player a $100 signing bonus and a two-year MiLB contract paying $50K the first year and $18M the second year…

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  34. fang2415

    Also, are the lower draft bonuses going to make players more vulnerable to Evan Longoria -type deals? That is, they’ll eagerly take something that gets them a guaranteed few million early in exchange for fewer millions down the road?

    I get the idea that that deal was more rational for Longo than most people give him credit for; it seems like with the new CBA it could be even more so.

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  35. binky

    I’m thinking the biggest losers in the caps on the amateur draft will be the agents. Those are the guys negotiating the top dollar deals, and they liked to push the envelope as far as it would go. I think the Strasburg deal spooked everybody about the potential signings of the future, given the precedent set and so they did this to punish agents more. An upcoming player may lament that he can’t make Strasburg money, but he’ll still be happy with his millions is my guess.

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