Team That Resembles Little League Team vs. Pitcher That Resembles Little League Pitcher from “Dazed & Confused”

The suddenly Doug Davisless Cubs will take the field tonight to desperately try to hit the nasty stuff of Mitch Kramer’s double (and two-time Cy Young Award winner), Tim Lincecum.

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The Cubs will have Darwin Barney back, so they have that going for them. I can’t think of any other advantages they may have off the top of my head. 

So, let’s go take a look at Timmy’s splits this year.  He has a .945 OPS-against after 100 pitches, but the odds of the Cubs seeing 100 pitches from him all day is pretty miniscule.

His OPS against is actually higher on the road this year, but it is still only .677 and his ERA in road games is actually lower than it is at home.

He is only 6-6 despite pitching about as well, if not a little better than last year, suggesting that the Giants hitters haven’t been doing him many favors. So maybe if Dempster can make the Giants offense perform like the Giants offense, the Cubs could eke out a fluke victory.  I’m not holding my breath on that though.

The cannon fodder lineup for the Cubs:

Fuk RF

Barn 2B

Cassie SS

‘Los 1B

Blakey 3B

Sori LF

Reedy CF

Sote C

Demp P


197 thoughts on “Team That Resembles Little League Team vs. Pitcher That Resembles Little League Pitcher from “Dazed & Confused””

  1. [quote name=Rice Cube]I’m assuming Ramirez just needed a day off.[/quote]Quade told him last year that he’d have today off.

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  2. [quote name=Aisle424]Aisle 424 out to watch Lincecum throw a perfect game, fuckfaces.[/quote]
    Enjoy, Aisle-y! Giants need to win to keep the Cubs a game behind KC because the Royals don’t like winning anymore either.

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  3. [quote name=Rice Cube]I’m assuming Ramirez just needed a day off.[/quote]Probably Aram’s poor numbers against Lincecum are a factor, as well.

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  4. [quote name=ACT]Probably Aram’s poor numbers against Lincecum are a factor, as well.[/quote]
    Too lazy to look it up. Got Rami’s splits vs. DeWitt’s against Lincecum? DeWitt has more “experience” against Lincecum as a former Dodger though.

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  5. [quote name=Muckey]I’m watching season 3 of “Breaking Bad” and these mexicali twins are fucking ruthless.[/quote]Yeah they are. How far into season 3 are you?

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  6. I’m sure Q did the proper regression and tested for significance, of course.

    Actually, I don’t mind this kind of thing, since you gotta rest Aram sometime, it might as well be against someone against whom he’s faired poorly. And, of course, there’s the whole platoon advantage to minimize the damage somewhat.

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  7. [quote name=ACT]I’m sure Q did the proper regression and tested for significance, of course.

    Actually, I don’t mind this kind of thing, since you gotta rest Aram sometime, it might as well be against someone against whom he’s faired poorly. And, of course, there’s the whole platoon advantage to minimize the damage somewhat.[/quote]
    Yeah, I figured Ramirez needed the day off, but in that small of a sample size I’d rather take the better overall hitter.

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  8. [quote name=mb21]Yeah they are. How far into season 3 are you?[/quote]I’ve just watched the first 5 episodes. Shit is starting to fall apart for Walt. This show is fantastic.

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  9. [quote name=ACT]I’m sure Q did the proper regression and tested for significance, of course.

    Actually, I don’t mind this kind of thing, since you gotta rest Aram sometime, it might as well be against someone against whom he’s faired poorly. And, of course, there’s the whole platoon advantage to minimize the damage somewhat.[/quote]
    Right; obviously the sample size is so miniscule as to be meaningless for the most party; still, you gotta get his off days in somewhere and here hurts no less than any other.

    Too, I need the Cubs to lose tonight and tomorrow and I will have my 3rd OV shirt.

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  10. [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Glad to see Jim do the smart thing and dump the carcass of Doug Davis.[/quote]It’s inconsequential. Davis just got BABIP’d to death. He also was unlucky as far as stranding runners. His FIP was quite good and his xFIP was just “bad.” He’s been worth .7 WAR according to Fangraphs. It just seemed every ball in play was a hit.

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  11. [quote name=Rice Cube]Yeah, I figured Ramirez needed the day off, but in that small of a sample size I’d rather take the better overall hitter.[/quote]If he was looking for an excuse to give Aram a day off, that’s fine. If he honestly thinks Dewy is a better bet against Lincecum, he’s an idiot.

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  12. Also, before I take off, Dempster’s start gives me a reason to post one more Jeffrey Ross line from the roast that I had forgotten:

    “Ryan, I hope your cell phone is on vibrate because you’re never going to get a ring.”

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  13. [quote name=Muckey]I’ve just watched the first 5 episodes. Shit is starting to fall apart for Walt. This show is fantastic.[/quote]Easily the best show on tv. Cranston is also easily the best actor in a show. Season 3 was my favorite. Can’t wait for season 4. If enough of you are watching, I may put up some Breaking Bad threads on Unobstructed Views. Probably a lot more fun discussing that show than it is the Cubs.

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  14. [quote name=mb21]It’s inconsequential. Davis just got BABIP’d to death. He also was unlucky as far as stranding runners. His FIP was quite good and his xFIP was just “bad.” He’s been worth .7 WAR according to Fangraphs. It just seemed every ball in play was a hit.[/quote]
    Every ball in play was really well hit (at least yesterday when I saw it in person) so you can’t really explain it using BABIP, methinks.

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  15. [quote name=Rice Cube]Every ball in play was really well hit (at least yesterday when I saw it in person) so you can’t really explain it using BABIP, methinks.[/quote]His LD rate is right where it’s been in his career. I didn’t watch yesterday so I’ll take your word for it, but overall he’s been unlucky. The 5 BB/9 didn’t help him out much though. Davis is what he is.

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  16. [quote name=mb21]Easily the best show on tv. Cranston is also easily the best actor in a show. Season 3 was my favorite. Can’t wait for season 4. If enough of you are watching, I may put up some Breaking Bad threads on Unobstructed Views. Probably a lot more fun discussing that show than it is the Cubs.[/quote]I agree. I don’t really watch cable anymore. I’m a Netflix junkie. But I’ve started DVRing these shows I’ve been catching up on. This show (Breaking Bad) and Mad Men I’ve really started getting into. I really liked the first couple seasons of Rescue Me but that show got kind of ridiculous.

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  17. [quote name=mb21]His LD rate is right where it’s been in his career. I didn’t watch yesterday so I’ll take your word for it, but overall he’s been unlucky. The 5 BB/9 didn’t help him out much though. Davis is what he is.[/quote]
    I don’t recall if LD% takes into account really hard hit grounders, but even those were hit sharply. I think Davis definitely had a bad day.

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  18. [quote name=Muckey]I agree. I don’t really watch cable anymore. I’m a Netflix junkie. But I’ve started DVRing these shows I’ve been catching up on. This show (Breaking Bad) and Mad Men I’ve really started getting into. I really liked the first couple seasons of Rescue Me but that show got kind of ridiculous.[/quote]I’ve only seen a few episodes of Mad Men and really liked it, but it’s going to be a difficult show for me to get into at this point. There are just so many episodes to watch. I never watched Rescue Me, but heard good things early on. Dexter is still a good show. It’s not what it once was, but it’s still good.

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  19. [quote name=Rice Cube]I don’t recall if LD% takes into account really hard hit grounders, but even those were hit sharply. I think Davis definitely had a bad day.[/quote]LD rate is just line drives. Davis definitely didn’t pitch well, but he didn’t pitch as poorly as his runs allowed would indicate.

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  20. [quote name=mb21]I’ve only seen a few episodes of Mad Men and really liked it, but it’s going to be a difficult show for me to get into at this point. There are just so many episodes to watch. I never watched Rescue Me, but heard good things early on. Dexter is still a good show. It’s not what it once was, but it’s still good.[/quote]Yes, Dexter is must see TV for me. Game of Thrones was great, Spartacus was bad ass. Boardwalk Empire was great too. I prefer watching cable shows to CBS, NBC, ABC.

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  21. I like Mad Men for the period detail, which is done so very well, but it is a little bit too much of a soap opera for me to fully commit. I just don’t have the patience. But even if I don’t care who’s sleeping with whom, I can still enjoy the sets, costumes, and all the cultural shit they get right.

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  22. ESPN announcer is saying the the Phillies have a “great defense” despite their low UZR. Why? They don’t make a lot of errors.

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  23. [quote name=ACT]ESPN announcer is saying the the Phillies have a “great defense” despite their low UZR. Why? They don’t make a lot of errors.[/quote]
    It’s why Derek Jeter deservedly won the Gold Glove, man.

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  24. [quote name=ACT]Big Papi is putting on his glove now.[/quote]
    Ironically, Adrian Gonzalez is standing around twiddling his thumbs so far while David Ortiz is having all the fun.

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  25. [quote name=Recalcitrant Blogger Nate]I just started Deadwood first season, enjoying it so far.[/quote]I liked the first season very much but just couldn’t get into the other seasons.

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  26. [quote name=mb21]It’s inconsequential. Davis just got BABIP’d to death. He also was unlucky as far as stranding runners. His FIP was quite good and his xFIP was just “bad.” He’s been worth .7 WAR according to Fangraphs. It just seemed every ball in play was a hit.[/quote]When every pitch you throw is batting practice speed, this will tend to happen. (dying laughing)

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  27. [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]When every pitch you throw is batting practice speed, this will tend to happen. (dying laughing)[/quote]I don’t buy that. Doug Davis isn’t that good, but he was unlucky with the Cubs. I feel bad for the guy. A decent defense behind him and he easily gets another job. The Cubs just happened to be one of the few teams that would make Doug Davis look worse than he actually is. (dying laughing)

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  28. And the Cubs are replacing him with an equally unlucky, but worse pitcher in Rodrigo Lopez. It’s really too bad Trey McNutt had all the injury problems and has basically sucked. His K rate is below 5 per 9. When I lost interest in Jay Jackson was when his K rate dropped to the point he had little chance of being a very good starter. McNutt has had injury issues so hopefully some of it is that, but he’s not been good this season. At all.

    This team blows.

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  29. [quote name=Muckey]I liked the first season very much but just couldn’t get into the other seasons.[/quote]
    How I feel exactly. I think I made it thru season 2, but I might have fallen just short of the finale.

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  30. [quote name=mb21]I don’t buy that. Doug Davis isn’t that good, but he was unlucky with the Cubs. I feel bad for the guy. A decent defense behind him and he easily gets another job. The Cubs just happened to be one of the few teams that would make Doug Davis look worse than he actually is. (dying laughing)[/quote]Eh. He sucks. Let’s not get over our skis. He was a serviceable MLB pitcher for a while, but his tank is empty. He’s done.

    [quote name=mb21]And the Cubs are replacing him with an equally unlucky, but worse pitcher in Rodrigo Lopez. It’s really too bad Trey McNutt had all the injury problems and has basically sucked. His K rate is below 5 per 9. When I lost interest in Jay Jackson was when his K rate dropped to the point he had little chance of being a very good starter. McNutt has had injury issues so hopefully some of it is that, but he’s not been good this season. At all.

    This team blows.[/quote]Yeah, Lopez is certainly no better, and maybe even worse. But we all know the Cubs make decisions based on what a player does on days that have an “e” in them, when the temperature is above 60, and the wind is blowing slightly to the left, but kind of to the right. (dying laughing)

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  31. [quote name=Mish]How I feel exactly. I think I made it thru season 2, but I might have fallen just short of the finale.[/quote]I liked all of Deadwood. Season 2 and 3 wasn’t as good as the first, but I still enjoyed it.

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  32. [quote name=mb21]I liked all of Deadwood. Season 2 and 3 wasn’t as good as the first, but I still enjoyed it.[/quote]I agree, but I re-watched the series, and on a second viewing, there’s not a lot to seasons 2 and 3 apart from Al Swearingen.

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  33. Eh. He sucks. Let’s not get over our skis. He was a serviceable MLB pitcher for a while, but his tank is empty. He’s done.

    If by serviceable you mean almost as good as Carlos Zambrano then I agree. Davis career WAR is almost 25. It’s just 8 less than Zambrano and almost all of that is from the last 3 seasons. Before 2009, Doug Davis was as valuable as Zambrano.

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  34. [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I agree, but I re-watched the series, and on a second viewing, there’s not a lot to seasons 2 and 3 apart from Al Swearingen.[/quote]I’d probably only watch season 1 if I watched it again. It was clearly the best, but I did enjoy all the seasons. Wish there were more of them.

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  35. Doug Davis actually reminds me of Wandy Rodriguez. Both pitchers are or were surprisingly good. You wouldn’t think so by looking at their stuff, but for whatever reason, it works for them.

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  36. [quote name=mb21]The Cubs are going to have to give up some runs if they want to keep pace with Houston.[/quote]Sadly, I think Grabow is probably unavailable today.

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  37. [quote name=mb21]The Pirates might actually be buyers. Wow.[/quote]I think what the Bucs are doing is pretty fucking cool

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  38. [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Sadly, I think Grabow is probably unavailable today.[/quote]That’s too bad.

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  39. [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]I think what the Bucs are doing is pretty fucking cool[/quote]So do I. I doubt they’d be silly enough to trade any of their future for what is still a longshot this season, but the fans could demand it at the same time.

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  40. [quote name=mb21]So do I. I doubt they’d be silly enough to trade any of their future for what is still a longshot this season, but the fans could demand it at the same time.[/quote]Would they take Z?

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  41. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]quick game[/quote]
    Dempster is pitching well

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  42. [quote name=mb21]The Cubs are going to have to give up some runs if they want to win Mish a shirt.[/quote]
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  43. [quote name=Rice Cube]Giants helping Dempster out by being very impatient.[/quote]6 IP, 58 pitches. (dying laughing) That is some Cub-esque offense from the Giants.

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  44. [quote name=mb21]So do I. I doubt they’d be silly enough to trade any of their future for what is still a longshot this season, but the fans could demand it at the same time.[/quote]Maybe they can fleece the Cubs for a change. (dying laughing)

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  45. Yet another Cubs thrown out at third with the play right in front of him. This is one dumb fucking team.

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  46. I’m pretty sure the kid’s name from Dazed and Confusd is Wiley Wiggins, a name that would fit Lincecum pretty well.

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  47. [quote name=josh]When was the last Cubs complete game? It’s been a loooong time I bet.[/quote]
    I think Zambrano had one against Lincecum a year or 2 ago, ironically

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  48. That dive was the equivalent of a TOOTBLAN..

    Turnins singles into doubles.. Lets See What Happens

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  49. [quote name=Rice Cube]Maybe Tony shouldn’t have dove there.[/quote]He fields that on a hop it’s hard for me to believe someone as slow as Burrell turns that into two. No way does he take a chance in that situation. That was just a dumb play. He had zero chance of catching that one.

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  50. [quote name=mb21]That was just a gritty play. He had zero chance of keeping a clean jersey on that one.[/quote].

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  51. This is why I always let the starter finish a game like this. If he’s going to lose it or not get the decision, I think it should be when he’s on the mound. Especially when the pitch count was as low as Dempster’s.

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  52. [quote name=GBTS]Campana should be on a bus in the next 20 minutes.[/quote]False. He should start every game the rest of the season. So should Grabow.

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  53. That was a fun little experiment with scrappy mcgee.. But seriously he should really only run. He has one +++ tool and 4 below average tools.. Lets see what happens

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  54. Has Marmol been more hittable than normal this year??

    FUCKING CHRIST!!!!! Can we pull him? Why is colvin down for this?

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  55. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]That was a fun little experiment with scrappy mcgee.. But seriously he should really only run. He has one +++ tool and 4 below average tools.. Lets see what happens[/quote]Not really. He’s know as a great defender. One inning doesn’t change that. But yeah, he shouldn’t play much at all. Pinch runner and defensive replacement.

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  56. I’m not exaggerating when I say that might have been the worst throw from the outfield I’ve ever seen. Made Juan Pierre look like Andre Dawson.

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  57. [quote name=mb21]Not really. He’s know as a great defender. One inning doesn’t change that. But yeah, he shouldn’t play much at all. Pinch runner and defensive replacement.[/quote]He’s looked nervous on defense. He’s made a good play here and there, but he looks awkward out there, even before this game. Maybe he’s just green.

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  58. .333 BABIP for Marmol before tonight’s game. Despite that, he’s allowed the same OPS as he did in 2009.

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  59. [quote name=mb21]Not really. He’s know as a great defender. One inning doesn’t change that. But yeah, he shouldn’t play much at all. Pinch runner and defensive replacement.[/quote]
    Not a stat fag so pardon my ignorance but how much does a shitty arm make contribute to range? Any competent CF throws out runner at plate there?

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  60. [quote name=bubblesdachimp]Has Marmol been more hittable than normal this year??
    [/quote]He struck out 1 of the 4 batters he didn’t intentionally walk. That’s not bad. His strikeout rate is at his pre-2010 levels (which were insane).

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  61. [quote name=josh]He’s looked nervous on defense. He’s made a good play here and there, but he looks awkward out there, even before this game. Maybe he’s just green.[/quote]He’s one of those guys that is going to make up for the occasional mistake with his tremendous range.

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  62. [quote name=mb21].333 BABIP for Marmol before tonight’s game. Despite that, he’s allowed the same OPS as he did in 2009.[/quote]
    So he is walking less than?

    Also just want to say this but Matt Price would have gotten out of that.. ANd Michael Roth would have never given upa hit to begin with?

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  63. [quote name=Steve Swisher]Why did it change Pi-erre to “dying laughing”?[/quote]Pi-erre was l-ol’d earlier this week.

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  64. [quote name=mb21]He’s one of those guys that is going to make up for the occasional mistake with his tremendous range.[/quote]I’m thinking about that throw too. He had time to make it but he winged a bad throw, in eagerness, perhaps.

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  65. i think i let campana try to steal there before i give up an out…

    Just a thought. Kid is quick

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  66. If you can’t steal a base with Tony fucking Campana’s speed, you deserve to lose every game you play. Ever.

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  67. [quote name=mb21]If you can’t steal a base with Tony fucking Campana’s speed, you deserve to lose every game you play. Ever.[/quote]Now you’re probably going to show me some faggy stats that say it’s better to only have one out in this situation than two.

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  68. [quote name=mb21]Fastest guy on the planet on 1st base. Let’s bunt.[/quote]Exactly. So. Fucking. Dumb.

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  69. [quote name=josh]Have him steal home.Lets See What Happens[/quote]Fixed your post.. Was gonna post that a second ago

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  70. [quote name=mb21]Why is everyone all excited? They just lost a game in the standings. This is a weird team.[/quote]
    They’re tied with KC now for #2.

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  71. If I ran this team I’d send Ramirez home and not allow him to have dinner for a week. Tony Campana got a gold sticker in the top of the 9th and then I took it away with that shit in the bottom half.

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  72. [quote name=mb21]If you can’t steal a base with Tony fucking Campana’s speed, you deserve to lose every game you play. Ever.[/quote]Catcher supposedly has a great arm. Pitcher has a quick slide step. I don’t blame them for not running here.

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  73. [quote name=mb21]Why is everyone all excited? They just lost a game in the standings. This is a weird team.[/quote]Frenchy wore the golden sombrero, helping the Royals gain in the standings.

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  74. [quote name=ACT]Catcher supposedly has a great arm. Pitcher has a quick slide step. I don’t blame them for not running here.[/quote]But isn’t that Campana’s job on this team? Get himself into scoring position? If you’re just going to bunt him over, what purpose does he serve on the team?

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  75. [quote name=mb21]But isn’t that Campana’s job on this team? Get himself into scoring position? If you’re just going to bunt him over, what purpose does he serve on the team?[/quote]Designated Phony Hustle Guy

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  76. [quote name=mb21]But isn’t that Campana’s job on this team? Get himself into scoring position? If you’re just going to bunt him over, what purpose does he serve on the team?[/quote]He was brought in as a defensive substitution.

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  77. I don’t mind bunting like MO does, but I really didn’t like it in that situation. I at least see if I can get the pitcher to make some throws to first and focus too much on the baserunner so that he loses his focus on the hitter. Hit and run would have been better than a bunt in that situation in my opinion.

    If you have Reed Johnson on 1st, bunt. That would make sense.

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  78. Marmol had a (marginally) positive WPA tonight. One more reason why save/blown save is not such a hot stat.

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  79. [quote name=ACT]Marmol had a (marginally) positive WPA tonight. One more reason why save/blown save is not such a hot stat.[/quote]Yeah, way too much noise there. Not enough accounting for the shit Speedy McSlappy pulled.

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  80. Levine’s rapid reaction recap only made mention of the fact that Marmol blew the save, but nothing about Campana royally fucking everything up.

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  81. [quote name=Rice Cube]Levine’s rapid reaction recap only made mention of the fact that Marmol blew the save, but nothing about Campana royally fucking everything up.[/quote]Well, that would really get in the way of the narrative.

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  82. Rogers says Hendry is a “lame duck” GM. Although he gives absolutely no sense of where he got that idea from…

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  83. [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Rogers says Hendry is a “lame duck” GM. Although he gives absolutely no sense of where he got that idea from…[/quote]
    Those anonymous sources are unimpeachable

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  84. [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Rogers says Hendry is a “lame duck” GM. Although he gives absolutely no sense of where he got that idea from…[/quote]
    One of them Yellon sources, right.

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  85. [quote name=Berselius]Those anonymous sources are unimpeachable[/quote][quote name=Rice Cube]One of them Yellon sources, right.[/quote]
    Berselius —–>

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  86. BTW, Campana made a throw yesterday that was every bit as bad as the one today.

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  87. [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]Yeah, way too much noise there. Not enough accounting for the shit Speedy McSlappy pulled.[/quote]Yes. My point is that Marm, overall did about what’ you’d expect: give up the inherited runner. It’s not a meltdown, especially when you consider that his defense let him down.

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  88. “We’re not only going to have to pitch this year, we’re going to have to pitch next year,” Hendry said. “It’s very hard to replace quality pitchers. Everybody understands that.”

    Yes, Jim, everybody understands that. That is why teams clear out their farm systems for actual good pitchers when the games mean something. Fuck me, I hate this fucking team.

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  89. [quote name=Aisle424]Yes, Jim, everybody understands that. That is why teams clear out their farm systems for actual good pitchers when the games mean something. Fuck me, I hate this fucking team.[/quote]I get more discouraged every time he or the shiny-pated bunt fetishist open their festering gobs.

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  90. Sorry you didn’t see a perfect game, Aisle-y. At least you enjoyed a meaningless walkoff win celebration.

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  91. I still can’t fucking believe how useless Campana is. He had zero chance of catching that ball and he could have cut it off easily if he takes a better route and Burrell is still on 1st.

    Then I doubt Dempster comes out and we’d see how that would have played out, but Campana fucked that up royally. Then that throw was Pi-erre-esque. Reed in center and Montanez in LF would have been the better alignment, but Quade likes his fucking gritty gamers.

    I don’t even want to start in on why Reed was bunting on the first fucking pitch after Campana lucked his way on base. The Giants should feel very, very bad about themselves for losing this game.

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  92. [quote name=Aisle424]I still can’t fucking believe how useless Campana is. He had zero chance of catching that ball and he could have cut it off easily if he takes a better route and Burrell is still on 1st.

    Then I doubt Dempster comes out and we’d see how that would have played out, but Campana fucked that up royally. Then that throw was Pi-erre-esque. Reed in center and Montanez in LF would have been the better alignment, but Quade likes his fucking gritty gamers.

    I don’t even want to start in on why Reed was bunting on the first fucking pitch after Campana lucked his way on base. The Giants should feel very, very bad about themselves for losing this game.[/quote]Hear, hear. And worth noting that’s two games in a row where Campana has made an entirely incompetent throw. That throw made Juan Pierre look like Roberto Clemente.

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  93. I must have blocked Campana’s throw yesterday from my memory…and I was at the damned game (dying laughing)

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  94. Though Dempster failed to get the win, he was utterly dominant. Dempster retired 20 straight batters at one point but was pulled after giving a double to Pat Burrell to lead off the ninth. Burrell ended up scoring to tie the game, but the Cubs pulled out the win when Aramis Ramirez singled in Tony Campana in the bottom half of the inning.

    Are you fucking kidding me? It’s like he was just reading the play-by-play without actually watching the game.

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  95. [quote name=Rice Cube]Are you fucking kidding me? It’s like he was just reading the play-by-play without actually watching the game.[/quote]You’re just not going to get a beat guy in this town to criticize a player like Campana.

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  96. [quote name=Mercurial Outfielder]You’re just not going to get a beat guy in this town to criticize a player like Campana.[/quote]
    I assumed that was Al. Not enough commas, I guess.

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  97. [quote name=Aisle424]I assumed that was Al. Not enough commas, I guess.[/quote]
    It might as well have been. Plus every other fan who thinks Camlana is the second coming of Jesus and Soriano is the Devil.

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  98. [quote name=Jame Gumb]I’ll be really disappointed if you guys don’t get this joke.

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    When did Josh Hamilton have a kid?

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  99. [quote name=Jame Gumb]I’ll be really disappointed if you guys don’t get this joke.

    [/quote]…Paul Atreides?

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