In the aftermath of the recently announced deal with the city to renovate Wrigley Field, Theo Epstein spoke to the media about its potential benefits to the team:
Our payroll now is third in the division. That’s fine. But it should be first in the division. So this is one of the ways that we’re going to get there.
It should be, we are on the same page. And this is one of the ways to get there. Still with you. I'm just struggling to figure out what the other ways are. Because this…
some aggressiveness in free agency
…I have to be honest, I don't see it.
Perhaps the greatest fault of the Cubs organization circa the late Hendry era was it's reluctance to invest in the minor league system. While other teams were stockpiling compensation picks, luring players from college with massive late-round bonuses, and throwing money around on the international free agent market, the Cubs mostly demurred.* When Theo was hired, he pledged to change all that, and no doubt he would have were it not for the new CBA, which hit like an angry Carlos Quentin and abruptly ended most of those practices. And while the new CBA was a shock, most of us figured: "hey, it's a setback, but there's always free agency." However, a new trend was slowly building and has now nearly overwhelmed the game. No one is making it to free agency any more. Prospects that the Cubs were busy not acquiring years ago are now being locked up well into their 30s, just long enough to get past the time when other teams would have any desire to sign them.
*The exception being 2011, of course, when Hendry got either religion or a mandate from upstairs to spend big.
Don't believe me? First, I used Fangraphs to find a list of all the players who accumulated at least 5 wins above replacement between the 2010 and 2012. An average player is worth about 2 WAR per season, so this is a fairly low hurdle to clear. It captures more or less everyone who has had a good season for two out of the last three years. Then I used Cot's and Baseball-Reference to determine when each of these players could potentially reach free agency. I filtered out everyone who will be 30 or older by the time they get there. The front office has repeatedly emphasized the importance of acquiring young players close to the prime of their careers. These are the players that they want to spend money on, the building block pieces which would presumably be at the heart of any effort to lead the NL Central in payroll.
Behold, I give you free agency future:
* Club Option
** Two Club Options
+ Two Player Options
2014
Phil Hughes, P, 28
Seriously. That's it.
2015
Pablo Sandoval, 3B, 28
Asdrubal Cabrera, SS, 29
Billy Butler, DH, 29*
Dexter Fowler, CF, 29
Colby Rasmus, CF, 29
Clayton Kershaw, SP, 27
Johnny Cueto, SP, 29*
Yovani Gallardo, SP, 29*
Homer Bailey, SP, 29
If you think Clayton Kershaw will make it to free agency, then either you believe he's on the verge of a catastrophic arm injury, or you are blissfully unaware of the goings-on in LA over the last 11 months. Otherwise, there are some decent pieces there. We can assume a few marginal players will take a step up over the next two years to join this group. Overall, that's not likely to change the way this looks, which is decidedly fair to middling.
2016
Jason Heyward, OF, 26
Austin Jackson, OF, 29
Justin Upton, OF, 28
Alex Avila, C, 29
Gerardo Parra, OF, 29
Mat Latos, SP, 28
Jaime Garcia, SP, 29 **
Rick Porcello, SP, 27
Trevor Cahill, SP, 28 +
Jhoulys Chacin, SP, 28
And now we find ourselves in 2016, the last for which Theo is under contract. If we are lucky, this could project as really good year for the Cubs. And it could be a banner year for free agents, but that is really anyone's guess given how many things could change between now and then. Some of these guys will fall off, and they will be joined by others who breakout. If the early extension model continues, many of them won't make it to the market. My guess, though, is that by then a few marginal guys will have been overpaid to such an extent in free agency that some will decide that waiting is worth the risk. And the Cubs will aggressively pursue them. In 2016.
My point is not that the Cubs are doomed.* There are a few 30 year olds barely missing my age cutoff that would make each of these classes look better. However, avoiding guys over 30 is central to what the front office is trying to accomplish (namely, sustained success). It seems clear to me that the Cubs will be forced to do a lot of things they would rather not: pony up for guys over 30, take on good players with bad contracts from other teams, ship out prospects to smaller market clubs to get a crack at extending bigger names, and pray to Jeff Samardzija Jesus that his will be done, role players be transformed, and prospects pan out.
*The Cubs are probably doomed.
Comments
(dying laughing)
fang2415Quote Reply
Surely some agents will wise up to the fact that a free agent right now will be worth dumptrucks of gold.
joshQuote Reply
Well this was depressing.
WaLiQuote Reply
@ josh:
I think they will, but it’s awfully hard to turn down 10s of millions right now and hope for the best in a few years.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ WaLi:
Agreed. I was going to say it was a damn good article, but then I realized I’m depressed about the team after reading it. (dying laughing)
dmick89Quote Reply
The Hope Monster thrives on the false hope of Cubs fans, right? Build them up to feed off their hope.
GW is trying to starve the Hope Monster. He’s saving us from Hope.
(good analysis anyway, even if we are all crying in heaps now.)
SVBQuote Reply
(dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing) i love the intertubz for its random shit.
This is how Shark was transformed!!!
SVBQuote Reply
Oh yeah, very nice Carlos Quentin reference. (dying laughing)
dmick89Quote Reply
Dammit. I really thought/hoped Jesus had a BRef page.
mikeakaleroyQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
It was a good read if it wasn’t about how dismal our future looks. I guess the question is how many decent young free agents were making it in the past? I thought most free agents were over 30.
WaLiQuote Reply
mikeakaleroy wrote:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/derosma01.shtml
BerseliusQuote Reply
@ WaLi:
I think most are anymore. It didn’t used to be that way, but teams are calling players up later than before. I wonder how the picture looks if you change the upper age to 32 since The has mentioned that as a peak age.
dmick89Quote Reply
Why aren’t they playing a double header today
dmick89Quote Reply
I guess it’s supposed to rain
dmick89Quote Reply
@ Berselius:
I was gonna go with Rod Beck, the fat Jesus, but he’s long tossing with Jeremi Gonzalez now.
mikeakaleroyQuote Reply
(dying laughing) (dying laughing) (dying laughing)
mikeakaleroyQuote Reply
Oh, internet…
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/22097229/the-bobblehead-project-anonymous-cub-smashes-sammys-boombox
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ mikeakaleroy:
@ Berselius:
dammit, that’s so good. i wish i had thought of it.
GWQuote Reply
Any chance Robinson Cano actually makes it to FA this offseason? I could see the Cubs ponying up for him, even if he’s 30. His bat would be fine if he had to move to OF. In fact, I’d probly go ahead and do that given how short the careers of 2B tend to be. Sign Cano, trade Barney. Move Cano to OF in 1-2 years, and fill in with whoever emerges from the minors. Cubs have some good 2B prospects.
Recalcitrant Blogger NateQuote Reply
Also, if I wasn’t at work right now and had time, I’d try to dig through rosters and see some players under contract that might be obtainable for mostly salary relief but could still provide value. I’d assume the Cubs will do some of that too.
Recalcitrant Blogger NateQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
For 2014, additional guys 30-32:
Brian McCann, C, 30
Chase Headley, 3B, 30
Robinson Cano, 2B, 31
Chris Young, OF, 30*
Jacoby Ellsbury, CF, 30
Shin-Soo Choo, OF, 31
Hunter Pence, OF, 31
Yunel Escobar, SS, 31**
Jon Lester, SP, 30
Josh Johnson, SP, 30
Ubaldo, SP, 30
Garza, SP, 30
Gavin Floyd, SP, 31
Ricky Nolasco, SP, 31
Jason Hammel, SP, 30
If you have been in a coma for the last two years, that starting pitching class looks amazing. I doubt Cano ends up going anywhere.
GWQuote Reply
@ Recalcitrant Blogger Nate:
Didn’t he just fire Boras for Jay-Z? I gotta think he’ll be staying in NYC.
GBTSQuote Reply
@ Recalcitrant Blogger Nate:
andre ethier is a guy who immediately comes to mind, with yasiel puig looking pretty advanced. not that the dodgers need salary relief, and they would be better off just platooning those two. I could see that happening, though.
GWQuote Reply
@ GW:
Yea, I’m guessing Cano gets extended. The only others I’m remotely interested in are Headley, Ellsbury, Lester, and maybe Choo. But I’m not really pumped about any of them.
Recalcitrant Blogger NateQuote Reply
@ GW:
2015, additional guys 30-32:
Dustin Pedroia, 2B, 31*
Brett Gardner, CF, 31
Rickie Weeks, 2B, 32+
Hanley Ramirez, 3B, 31
Denard Span, CF, 31*
Melky Cabrera, OF, 31
Nick Markakis, OF, 31+
Max Scherzer, SP, 30
Brandon Morrow, SP, 30*
Justin Masterson, SP, 30
Chad Billingsley, SP, 30+
Luke Hochevar, RP, 31
GWQuote Reply
@ Recalcitrant Blogger Nate:
I think you are on target on all counts. I would be surprised if they didn’t make a run at Ellsbury, but, man, that guy is made of glass. And 2011 is looking like his Brady Anderson year.
GWQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
Boras does this all the time (see, e.g., Appel)
joshQuote Reply
Look at the ridiculous money Pujy, Princy, and Hamiltony got. Surely there are young players who want to take a shot at that kind of money. Maybe not.
joshQuote Reply
@ GW:
2016, Additional guys 30-32:
Alex Gordon, LF, 32+
Matt Wieters, C, 30
Howie Kendrick, 2B, 32
Ian Desmond, SS, 30
Matt Joyce, OF, 31
Drew Stubbs, OF, 31
Cliff Pennington, SS, 32
John Jaso, C, 32
David Price, SP, 30
Doug Fister, SP, 32
Ian Kennedy, SP, 31
Jordan Zimmermann, SP, 30
Ricky Romero, SP, 31*
Clay Buchholz, SP, 31**
GWQuote Reply
Would the Cubs draft Appel? They passed on him last year so maybe they don’t like him all that much. Or did they pass because of his money demands?
MuckerQuote Reply
@ josh:
I think you are right, and I allude to that in the article (probably not clearly), but I don’t see it happening for a few years. I mean, if Heyward (2016) or Stanton (2017) hold out, they will get silly contracts that make everyone who signed extensions insanely jealous. But that’s still years down the road.
GWQuote Reply
@ Mucker:
I think they passed because they really loved Almora. The impression I got was that he was hands-down their favorite player in the draft. In addition, the scouts are saying that Appel has improved this year. I think if he’s there, he’s the pick.
GWQuote Reply
@ GW:
Trying to be positive!
joshQuote Reply
@ GW:
Also they probably wanted to use the pick last year not this year (when they assumed Appel wouldn’t sign)
WaLiQuote Reply
I actually like a lot of those players in the 30-31 range. Headley, Alex Gordon, Cano, Masterson, Weeks, etc. I think you could get a lot of those guys on 3 or 4 year deals. I actually prefer those than getting the Kershaw’s or Grienke’s and having to commit to 6-8 years.
Hopefully we develop some impact all star type pitching and position players and fill in the holes with the above players. This years draft is probably the most important draft Theo will have during his 5 year (or more) stint with the Cubs.
JonKneeVQuote Reply
@ JonKneeV:
Headley: good with the glove, my guess is that the power in 2012 was an aberration. not crazy about him
Gordon: like him. 32 year old in 2016, though. would much rather j. upton if they wait that long
Cano: i’ll believe he leaves the Yanks when I see it
Masterson: like him. gets slaughtered by lefties, though.
Weeks: meh
GWQuote Reply
I just wrapped up doing a segment for an Ohio-based site, http://www.ultimatesportstalk.com/, about the Cubs and the Wrigley renovations. I’ll have the link up later.
Aisle424Quote Reply
@ Aisle424:
Why don’t you have it up now?
Suburban kidQuote Reply
It only took sixth starter Chris Capuano getting hurt in a brawl for Ted Lilly to make a rotation.
How the mighty have fallen.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Rice Cube wrote:
this one is pretty amazing too
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/21884536
EnricoPallazzoQuote Reply
@ EnricoPallazzo:
They should totally make that one.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Oh my god, Cubs have one more win than Miami.
GBTSQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
Yeah, already exceeding my expectations.
MishQuote Reply
MishQuote Reply
@ Mish:
WTF
Suburban kidQuote Reply
@ Mish:
@ Suburban kid:
I’m pretty sure we’ve reached the end times. Thank god…
mikeakaleroyQuote Reply
This may be one of AC’s dream scenarios, but
Carlos Villaneuva ———————> ace
Suburban kidQuote Reply
@ Mish:
All these sinkholes look photoshopped to me
WaLiQuote Reply
@ WaLi:
I agree, but since CNN is reporting it, it must be true! Oh…wait…
mikeakaleroyQuote Reply
BREAKING: CNN Reports the Boston bomber is now creating sinkholes in Chicago
mikeakaleroyQuote Reply
This is really good stuff, GW. Thanks for doing the extra legwork. Mind doing a bit more? Not sure how easy it is for you do or not, but could you lower the WAR to 4 over 3 years? What about 6 WAR?
dmick89Quote Reply
If anyone wants to send poop to Tom Ricketts:
http://poopsenders.com/
You can send Cow, Elephant, or Gorilla.
WaLiQuote Reply
@ WaLi:
By the quart or gallon! It’s actually cheaper than I figured it’d be…
mikeakaleroyQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
At 6 WAR, you lose Gerardo Parra, John Jaso, Cliff Pennington, Nick Markakis, Colby Rasmus, Escobar, Jason Hammel, Ricky Nolasco, Phil Hughes, Luke Hochevar, and Homer Bailey.
GWQuote Reply
@ Mish:
I feel like that guy should have moved his car.
GBTSQuote Reply
Is Schierholtz our best player?
GBTSQuote Reply
bah, some of the 30-32 guys were aged out of my original search. I’ll update.
GWQuote Reply
Suburban kid wrote:
They don’t air it live. I’m curious if they air everything because he had talked about it being about a 10 minute segment, but I was on the phone with him for about 30.
Aisle424Quote Reply
Castro walk, Rizzo home run. Nice.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ Aisle424:
So, Mr. 424, you admit to grabbing her “sweet can.” Is there anything you’d like to say for yourself?
Mr. 424, your silence only incriminates you further.
Calm down Mr. 424! Nooo! Noooooooo!!!!!
*Dramatization – May Not Have Happened*
GBTSQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
It’s gunna suck when this game gets called in the 4th. (dying laughing)
GBTSQuote Reply
This game will end up getting rained out.
dmick89Quote Reply
GBTS wrote:
The owner tried to and the police stopped her because they said it could collapse at any moment. Then it did.
Aisle424Quote Reply
Aisle424 wrote:
That’s no excuse.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Big Bang Theory – what’s so big about it?
Suburban kidQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
(dying laughing)
(dying laughing)
Probably.
Aisle424Quote Reply
Suburban kid wrote:
Penny’s boobs.
Aisle424Quote Reply
@ Aisle424:
They get her out of the car, right?
dmick89Quote Reply
@ Suburban kid:
It makes me laugh and I figure that’s all that should matter.
Network boss: will this make dmick89 laugh?
Show creater: no.
boss: we don’t want it.
I wish they’d do that for all comedies.
dmick89Quote Reply
(dying laughing) just noticed 424’s avatar
dmick89Quote Reply
@ Aisle424:
That’s about it, though, right?
I mean, not a bad situation, sort of OK characters…but really bad writing.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
@ GW:
Nothing really special in the older hitters that I originally left out. Maybe Corey Hart if you think he can still play the outfield.
2014
Stephen Drew, SS, 31
Geo Soto, C, 31
Mike Napoli, 1B, 32
Corey Hart, 1B, 32
Jhonny Peralta, SS, 32
Kelly Johnson, 2B, 32
Omar Infante, 2B, 32
David Murphy, OF, 32
Brendan Ryan, SS, 32
2015
JJ Hardy, SS, 32
Alberto Callaspo, IF, 32
Russell Martin, C, 32
GWQuote Reply
Well, the overall situation or general premise is good, but the specific situations in the episodes are kinda lame.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
@ GW:
That didn’t help out it like I thought it might.
dmick89Quote Reply
Len just said a pitcher can win a game while pitching less than 5 innings if it’s a rain-shortened game. Maybe I’m just tired or something (dumb?), but how is that possible? I’m assuming this isn’t a reliever he’s talking about because, duh. In order for a game to be official, doesn’t the losing team have to bat 5 times?
dmick89Quote Reply
Anyone seen 42 yet? Any good?
dmick89Quote Reply
@ GW:
older pitchers omitted originally in the comments:
2014
Jason Vargas, SP, 31
James Shields, SP, 32*
Shaun Marcum, SP, 32
Scott Baker, SP, 32
Paul Maholm, SP, 32
That Shields option is probably picked up. Maholm actually improves the group quite a bit (dying laughing)
GWQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
I think he misspoke. Game must go at least five innings for ths away team if home team is ahead, which means pitcher must still go five full to snag the win.
Rice on busQuote Reply
@ GW:
After looking through this, what do you think Theo means by spending money? I certainly don’t expect a lot of free agents worthy of long-term deals to be hitting the market. Those who have a shot (among the ones you’ve listed here) mostly inspire a big yawn.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ Rice on bus:
Yeah, but he mentioned someone on the Reds a few years ago picking up a win with 4 innings pitched. Don’t think that’s possible.
dmick89Quote Reply
A moment later Len also mentioned Kyuji Fujikawa getting a win while pitching only an inning so who knows what the hell he was really talking about. I think he confused himself.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ dmick89:
Maybe he means an extension for Samardzija (dying laughing)
I honestly think he was just saying what was expected of him based on the Wrigley announcement. I don’t want to read into his tone based on the written quotes, but it seems clear that he knows there’s not a lot out there, and development is a much bigger deal.
I mean, I think they will spend money if and when castro and rizzo plus a prospect or two get good enough to put a decent team on the field, whether through trade or signing older guys. Until then, I think we should expect more of the same, value/upside guys and hope they become more than that.
GWQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
Maybe Theo meant by extending contracts to young players? We need to lock up Baez now!
WaLiQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
Fujikawa got a blown save and a win from the same half inning his last start.
WaLiQuote Reply
Castro ———> fire
dmick89Quote Reply
Cubs are whinning? Is that how you spell that word?
joshQuote Reply
@ WaLi:
I also have no idea what you guys are talking about
WaLiQuote Reply
Soriano moves about as well as I do these days.
joshQuote Reply
@ Suburban kid:
I like it. It’s light comedy. Nothing ground-breaking, but I basically like the characters and they seem to have a good comedic chemistry. Most of the funnier things revolve around Sheldon’s inability to function in social situations, but it makes me laugh pretty consistently. I only watch it in syndication, so I don’t know what the current season is like. It’s probably reaching that point all sitcoms eventually do where they’re out of plausible ideas, so they have to make the characters do things they never would have before, or introduce new characters, or have a baby-delivered-in-an-elevator episode.
Aisle424Quote Reply
Actually, Sori looks kind of overweight. What up with that?
joshQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
She was never in the car. It was parked outside her house and she wanted to move it when she saw the hole. One of the cars was being driven when the sinkhole happened and that driver was taken to the hospital with a head injury, I think, but it didn’t sound like it was overly serious.
Aisle424Quote Reply
Aisle424Quote Reply
@ dmick89:
changing the lower bound to 4 WAR turned out to be not that difficult, and equally uninspiring
2014
Kurt Suzuki, C, 30
2015
Emilio Bonifacio, 2B, 30
2016
Sean Rodriguez, 2B, 31
Daric Barton, 1B, 29
Gaby Sanchez, 1B, 32
Alcides Escobar, SS, 29++
Daniel Murphy, 2B, 31
Bud Norris, SP, 32
GWQuote Reply
@ GW:
Yeah, but there is the draft, and there are trades. There are ways to build a competitive team, still. J. Upton is an example. He seemed like a DBack superstar, but then they traded him. If they can get on the verge with a good draft or two, and fill out with free agents without trying to sign the old superstars, it could still work.
joshQuote Reply
The Cubs will need some good luck in the next draft, maybe the next two.
joshQuote Reply
@ GW:
sucks to be the Cubs (dying laughing)
dmick89Quote Reply
@ josh:
yeah, I’ve been trying to say that throughout. they could still get good, they just can’t do it the way they originally envisioned.
GWQuote Reply
And this exercise really made me wish they had been able to get upton. I mean, I wanted it to happen at the time, but this…
GWQuote Reply
@ GW:
The lazy one, or the not-gritty one?
GBTSQuote Reply
Aisle424 wrote:
That’s all I expect from it, but I still don’t get many laughs from it. Oh well.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
@ GW:
You’re depressing me even worse, damn it. The traditional methods sucked anyway. There was only one or two teams that did them well. Most floundered around and stayed shitty for years. I know next year will be a wash, too, but I gotta hope they get lucky enough and are smart enough to be competitive after that.
joshQuote Reply
Cain got his ass handed to him today.
joshQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
(dying laughing) I think the lazy one
GWQuote Reply
@ GW:
wait, no, the not-gritty one. Justin.
GWQuote Reply
GBTS wrote:
Suburban kidQuote Reply
@ josh:
Yep, and Yovani Gallardo put down his beer and parked his car long enough to pitch well and hit a HR.
mikeakaleroyQuote Reply
I loved Jason Frasor’s work on Boardwalk Empire
GWQuote Reply
Great outing by the Stache
BerseliusQuote Reply
@ Suburban kid:
If you don’t find Sheldon funny, then you’re not going to like the rest of the show very much. He’s very much the key to the funniest stuff, in my opinion.
Aisle424Quote Reply
Carlos Marmol’s appearance was sponsored by White Castle today.
Aisle424Quote Reply
@ Aisle424:
He’s a good character and funny in small doses. Because he’s so one dimensional It gets old quick.
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Carlos’s Big Bang Theory was sponsered by a sinkhole swallowing all the good free agents and with it the rebuilding effort today.
joshQuote Reply
You guys are thinking about this sitcom thing too much.
Does it make dmick89 laugh? Yes. Lets be real. That’s all that matters. (dying laughing)
dmick89Quote Reply
@ josh:
(dying laughing)
dmick89Quote Reply
Does it make dmick89 laugh?
There. that’s a question you’d ask Tom Petty.
dmick89Quote Reply
*Checks box score*
Cubs beat one of the best teams in baseball, Castro drew two walks, Soriano hit a home run, and the Cubs’ bullpen pitched 2 scoreless innings. What’s going on here? Did someone hack the site?
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Rizzo’s line: .180/.305/.460. He makes Rob Deer proud.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Rizzo the Rat wrote:
That was the most surprising part for me
WaLiQuote Reply
@ WaLi:
mlb.com should show video of that. It’s a hell of a lot more interesting than Rizzo’s 600-foot dinger.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ Suburban kid:
Now you are just being silly. If he was one dimensional he’d only be a line.
mobile svbQuote Reply
Based on the judgment of the official scorer if the starting pitcher appears likely to have won a game but could not because of rain delay, he can be awarded the win. So if a team is up 15-2 in the 4th and the game is delayed for 3 hr by a rain delay or darkness or continued the next day, the startee can be awarded the win e en if he doesn’t come out to pitch the 5th. Or if the game restarts but only goes 6 innings total.
I’m pretty sure this is correct and Len was right.
mobile svbQuote Reply
@ Suburban kid:
It’s one of the most revolutionary ideas in the history of science.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ mobile svb:
This sounds plausible and should be within the Official Scorer section of the MLB rulebook.
I’d look it up but I…am…outta here!
/80sDennisMiller
Rice CubeQuote Reply
Here:
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/rule10.shtml
NOW I’m ghost.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
Thanks…here it is.
SVBQuote Reply
@ SVB:
Thank you. Did not know that.
dmick89Quote Reply
Rizzo JUST missed:
GBTSQuote Reply
justin upton has nine homers so far
GWQuote Reply
@ GW:
Justin Upton is very good at baseball.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ Suburban kid:
I don’t like the show either, but then I don’t like television. Or anything.
joshQuote Reply
@ dmick89:
That’s my baseball fact contribution for the year. The bill for my consulting fee is in the mail. Please make sure the peanuts you send in payment are wrapped in plastic so there is at least a Lillibridge chance that they will arrive uneaten and not stale. (dying laughing)
SVBQuote Reply
Adam Dunn’s wRC+ is now 0.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
@ mobile svb:
Tough crowd
SVBQuote Reply
@ Rizzo the Rat:
Explain wRC+ again…does 0 mean he’s neutral, or that he’s really really really bad because 100 is the norm?
Rice CubeQuote Reply
GBTSQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
He created 100% fewer runs than average.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ GBTS:
Was that Rizzo’s deep fly today? (dying laughing)
dmick89Quote Reply
@ dmick89:
Yeah, it made it to Detroit off the bounce.
GBTSQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
That’s a decent hit. More impressive it had gotten to Toronto.
joshQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
100 is average. 76 is Darwin Barney. 0 is what you might get from a pitcher hitting.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Holy Shit
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Rizzo is tied in home runs with the Florida Marlins.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Chechnya? Really?
Suburban kidQuote Reply
Rizzo the Rat wrote:
WaLiQuote Reply
@ Suburban kid:
WaLiQuote Reply
@ WaLi:
I recall OV saying Vitters had a wRC+ of 7 last season, but it’s kind of hard to pay attention to baseball at this hour given the other worldly events that have transpired.
Rice CubeQuote Reply
@ Rice Cube:
I found 4
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4623&position=3B
He also had -12 at some points
http://obstructedview.net/aside/vitters-12-wrc.html
WaLiQuote Reply
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http://vk.com/id160300242
Suburban kidQuote Reply
new shit: http://obstructedview.net/minor-leagues/jot-cubs-minor-league-recap-4-18-13.html
dmick89Quote Reply
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