It's projection season and though I've not covered them in as much detail as I have in the past, I still enjoy it. We took a look at the Cubs PECOTA pitcher projections last week and they were unimpressive. Particularly unimpressive for Jeff Samardzija, but I don't buy it.
Instead of adding commentary at the end, I'll do it before I post the projections.
Not surprisingly, Anthony Rizzo is projected to provide the most WARP and hit for the highest wOBA (calculated by me). Starlin Castro is just behind him at 2.7 WARP and then Ryan Sweeney and Welington Castillo are next at 1.7.
Baseball Prospectus is higher on Mike Olt than I am and if they're correct, he should be starting at 3rd over Luis Valbuena. Move Valbuena to 2nd base. These aren't the overall projections that you'd expect to see on a contender, but nobody, not even the front office, is trying to contend. You already know the Cubs aren't among the favorites for contention in the National League.
I thought GW made a good point the other day that while it's nice to have guys like Rizzo and their projected values, we're all going to be disappointed if they don't get noticeably better than they have been. This is a really big year for Castro. He needs to bounce back after his awful 2013 season and we'd all like to see Rizzo take a step forward.
The Cubs have been avoiding free agents and counting on young guys from within the system. Two of them are obviouisly Starlin Castro and Anthony Rizzo. I don't know what it will take to make you happy, but I don't thinka .340ish and .320ish wOBA is going to make me too happy with either player. I don't think it helps the Cubs chances of contending in the near future and I don't think the Cubs front office does either.
Guys like Javier Baez, Kris Bryant and maybe others aren't far behind, but they were meant to be added to a core that already included a very good Rizzo and Castro. If the Cubs don't get that, they're chances of contending in the next few years takes a big hit. The Cubs are investing a lot in their success. It's not necessarily in the money owed each player since both signed team-friendly extensions, but that investment lies in the long-term success of this organization. They need both of them to be better than projected. And they also need to get lucky with additional young players.
Player | PA | H | HR | BB | SO | AVG | OBP | SLG | wOBA | WARP |
Anthony Rizzo | 631 | 145 | 28 | 57 | 131 | .258 | .332 | .472 | .346 | 2.9 |
Starlin Castro | 651 | 170 | 11 | 31 | 98 | .280 | .318 | .411 | .317 | 2.7 |
Ryan Sweeney | 402 | 100 | 6 | 32 | 61 | .273 | .332 | .398 | .325 | 1.7 |
Welington Castillo | 511 | 114 | 17 | 42 | 126 | .249 | .323 | .414 | .325 | 1.7 |
Nate Schierholtz | 584 | 136 | 17 | 37 | 104 | .254 | .306 | .418 | .315 | 1.2 |
Justin Ruggiano | 337 | 77 | 13 | 28 | 85 | .250 | .315 | .437 | .330 | 1.2 |
Darwin Barney | 546 | 127 | 6 | 28 | 66 | .251 | .294 | .349 | .284 | 1.1 |
Mike Olt | 261 | 51 | 12 | 30 | 78 | .224 | .314 | .424 | .323 | 1 |
Kris Bryant | 250 | 53 | 10 | 13 | 71 | .229 | .275 | .405 | .292 | 0.7 |
Luis Valbuena | 307 | 64 | 8 | 32 | 61 | .233 | .315 | .382 | .314 | 0.4 |
Junior Lake | 541 | 124 | 12 | 25 | 145 | .247 | .286 | .378 | .291 | 0.4 |
Matt Szczur | 250 | 56 | 3 | 16 | 46 | .245 | .298 | .341 | .284 | 0.3 |
Donnie Murphy | 68 | 14 | 3 | 4 | 18 | .237 | .298 | .446 | .300 | 0.3 |
George Kottaras | 122 | 22 | 4 | 16 | 29 | .220 | .325 | .390 | .311 | 0.3 |
Chris Coghlan | 108 | 26 | 2 | 9 | 17 | .261 | .329 | .392 | .328 | 0.2 |
Javier Baez | 66 | 15 | 4 | 2 | 19 | .243 | .280 | .476 | .317 | 0.2 |
Josh Vitters | 32 | 8 | 1 | 2 | 7 | .241 | .288 | .400 | .324 | 0.1 |
Logan Watkins | 393 | 81 | 7 | 35 | 89 | .234 | .304 | .357 | .295 | 0.1 |
Arismendy Alcantara | 61 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 15 | .242 | .282 | .375 | .261 | 0.1 |
Christian Villanueva | 61 | 13 | 2 | 2 | 15 | .235 | .277 | .393 | .279 | 0 |
Brett Jackson | 32 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 11 | .205 | .285 | .355 | .280 | -0.1 |
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It’s amazing how high scouts and stat projectors are on Olt after the last 2 seasons. I really hope they are right…but goodness there are some real questions (eyes) that need to be answered.
srbutch5Quote Reply
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2014-top-100-prospects/
Baez –> 4
Bryant –> 6
Hope –> Monster
fang2415Quote Reply
Here come the (NFL) mock drafts. SF, then CHI. If you want one, give me the team.
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@ Like You Care:
Tampa Bay, if you don’t mind.
EdwinQuote Reply
@ Like You Care:
Lions. Once again the Browns take the media pressure off.
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SF
I’d be ecstatic with this draft:
30 S CALVIN PRYOR LOUISVILLE
56 CB BRADLEY ROBY OHIO STATE
61 C WESTON RICHBURG COLORADO STATE
77 WR DONTE MONCRIEF MISSISSIPPI
94 QB JIMMY GAROPPOLO EASTERN ILLINOIS
125 TE RICHARD RODGERS CALIFORNIA
158 WR MIKE DAVIS TEXAS
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@ Edwin:
Not at all. I know they could use a DE, a WR and a TE. Anything else pressing?
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@ BVS, my dad drank Hamms:
Word. Right after TB’s.
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@ Like You Care:
Depends if you think they need an upgrade at QB, and whether it’s better to upgrade QB or go DE/WR/TE early and draft a project QB later in the draft. Otherwise your list of needs looks good.
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As usual, this is what I would do based on the team’s needs and my player values:
14 DT AARON DONALD PITTSBURGH – This pick will be Donald, Ealy, Mosley or Pryor every time.
51 S JIMMIE WARD NORTHERN ILLINOIS – Poor man’s Earl Thomas. Very rangy FS.
82 DE MARCUS SMITH LOUISVILLE – Very good pass rusher, but similar to two undersized DEs they already have on the roster. Not sure what the plan is on defense going forward.
113 S CRAIG LOSTON LSU – The opposite of Conte at SS.
144 CB AARON COLVIN OKLAHOMA – If he comes back healthy, this is a steal. The perfect CB for that defense.
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@ Like You Care:
GB
Berselius, Cubs #12 prospectQuote Reply
@ Edwin:
I think Glennon’s at least earned another year, but I’d consider taking a late flyer on a QB.
7 OT GREG ROBINSON AUBURN – I cannot overstate how much potential I think this kid has. If he stayed in school (he’s a RsSo), I think he’d be in the running for first overall pick next year. He’s second only to Clowney on my big board.
That said, (1)I don’t think he’ll be there at 7 and (2)I think TB should consider trading back in the first and picking up an extra 3rd since they don’t have one. Rounds 2-4 are LOADED this year.
38 TE JACE AMARO TEXAS TECH – If Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski had a baby with a perfect average of their skills (with the killings), it’d be Amaro.
100 DE JACKSON JEFFCOAT TEXAS – Technically nearly there. With an NFL off-season, should be starting by the fall.
131 WR JOSH HUFF OREGON – Perfect slot WR to go with Jackson and Williams.
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DET
This is a good year for teams who need to fix their secondaries.
10 CB DARQUEZE DENNARD MICHIGAN STATE – My favorite CB in the last three drafts. Tough, physical and perfect for that division.
45 WR ALLEN ROBINSON PENN STATE – Physical WR that will pair well with Megatron.
76 CB PIERRE DESIR LINDENWOOD – Rising CB has length and hips that might make him unavailable at this spot.
107 S TERRENCE BROOKS FLORIDA STATE
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@ Berselius, Cubs #12 prospect:
Went a different route this time…
21 TE ERIC EBRON UNC – I know the defense sucks, but this is bpa and need. Stories are emerging that he’s added weight to be a better blocker. If he shows to the combine looking like he lost the athleticism that makes him stand out, he’ll drop for me.
53 S ED REYNOLDS STANFORD – Reminds me of Dashon Goldson. Good in coverage, but can handle Peterson and Forte one on one.
85 ILB YAWIN SMALLWOOD UCONN – Good complement to Hawk. Can run the seam with Bennett.
117 DT CARAUN REID PRINCETON – Not a great fit (more of a 3T), but a good rotational DT. Smart and active.
149 QB TAJH BOYD CLEMSON – The more I watch, the less I like him. The ability is there to be the best QB from this draft, though. And which team provides the best environment for him to grow into that QB? No. The correct answer is GB.
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The more I think about it, the more I think TB needs to consider QB early. They have a really talented roster that could compete for the division this year with better QB play.
First round: Bridgewater, Bortles, Manziel – If these guys are there, TB should take one…unless Clowney falls.
Second round: Carr, Garoppolo – Both have questions, but are possible franchise QBs, imo.
Third round: Mettenberger – Last chance for a legit QB and it’s only because of his ACL injury. You can say a prayer and hope to find Tom Brady on Day 3, but this is their best shot at a QB. I’ll run the draft sim again with this in mind.
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Reality is that the first-round guys will likely be gone by TB’s pick. So unless TB thinks Derek Carr is worth the No. 7 pick (they might, but I don’t), they should consider trading up or back. If STL doesn’t want a QB, the No. 2 pick will certainly be available. You might have your pick of the QBs at that spot.
Trading back is more likely, though. They’d be wise to try to add another Day 2 pick and draft Mettenberger, who was looking like a late first rounder before he hurt his knee.
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Like You Care wrote:
If they want him, and it’s their turn to draft, they should just take him.
/HaydenSimpson’d
GBTSQuote Reply
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Black woman who defends receivers?
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@ GBTS:
Jake Locker and Christian Ponder come to mind. TEN and MIN wanted their guys and either couldn’t move out to get them where they were valued or just valued them that highly.
TB is in a pretty good spot because either one of the big 3 QBs or at least two elite players will be there at No. 7. If a QB doesn’t fall into their laps, trade back.
Or they’ll just Cubs and take Hayden Si– Derek Carr.
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@ GBTS:
Close. More like black football player who is capable of tackling other football players.
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Like You Care wrote:
They better hope that he doesn’t develop a decade-long case of mono.
Berselius, Cubs #12 prospectQuote Reply
@ GBTS:
Conte really doesn’t play shortstop well at all, so I assume Loston will be pretty good. Not sure when Ryno started looking at baseball draft though. I thought that was GW’s job. LSU does produce good baseball players though, to wit: Ryan Theriot and Mike Fontenot
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BVS, my dad drank Hamms wrote:
I had no idea they went to LSU
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@ Like You Care:
Looks good to me
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@ Berselius, Cubs #12 prospect:
With Brad Hawpe. Cajun Connection. They won the 2000 CWS and Theriot scored the winning run in the last game. Aaron Hill came to LSU 2 years later. DJ LeMahieu was on the 2009 CWS winning team for LSU.
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Berselius, Cubs #12 prospect wrote:
(dying laughing)
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