Cubs and Matt Garza avoid arbitration

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MattGarza-pitchThe Cubs have avoided arbitration with another of their players. Last week they re-signed Luis Valbuena and they have now reached an agreement with Matt Garza for $10.25 million.

Cubs right-hander Matt Garza avoided arbitration and agreed to a new $10.25 million contract on Thursday.

Garza's representatives at CAA announced the new deal on Twitter: "#Cubs Matt Garza (@Gdeuceswild) agrees to a $10.25M contract to avoid salary arbitration." Garza himself revealed the contract on his Twitter account: "Business side over! Hooray! Time to focus on what really matters … 2013 #GoCubsGo"

The Cubs were expected to make a formal announcement on Friday.

Garza has always been a little overrated and $10.25 million is a bit much, but it's his final year of arbitration and he was going to get a raise.

I'm interested in what kind of value Garza has at this point in a trade. To keep things simple, let's start with CAIRO. It projects a 3.69 FIP over 150 innings, which is also 2.6 WAR. If the win value is, let's say, $6 million in 2013, that's $15.6 million in value. Garza's surplus trade value prior to the start of the season is $5.4 million.

We'll go ahead and write Garza in for 200 innings and bump the WAR to 3.5. That's $21 million in value and a surplus value of $10.8 million.

I think expecting 3.5 WAR from Garza is a bit of a stretch. Below are his WAR totals since 2008:

  • WARP: 1.6, 2.2, 0.6, 3.7, -0.4
  • fWAR: 2.9, 3.1, 1.6, 4.9, 1.2
  • rWAR: 3.1, 3.3, 1.3, 2.5, 1.0

But the projections are the projections so we're using them.

Garza's value will decrease as the season goes on. If he's traded at the deadline, he'd only be expected to provide about 1.2 WAR the rest of the way while being paid $3.42 million over the final two months. That would give him a surprlus value of $3.8 million.

Comparing those values to this post on Beyond the Box Score, the Cubs probably won't get much in return for Garza at the deadline. I imagine it will be difficult to trade him before he shows he is completely healthy and I'm not sure spring training is going to get that done.

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  1. Mish

    From the last thread:

    Brooks Raley, LHP, Chicago Cubs
    Bats: L Throws: L HT: 6-3 WT: 185 DOB: July 29, 1988

    A sixth-round pick in 2009 from Texas A&M, Brooks Raley made his major league debut last summer, making five starts for the Cubs. He pitched adequately in three of those starts, but got knocked around in the other two, resulting in the numbers you see above. Raley is a four-pitch lefty, working with an 85-90 MPH fastball (averaging 88), a slider/cutter, a changeup, and a curveball. None of his pitches qualify as plus, resulting in a thin margin for error, but when he throws strikes he can be effective. He was tough on lefties in the minors and might transfer to LOOGY work. However, since he’s a very good athlete with a consistent delivery and good makeup, the temptation is to see if he can eat some innings as a fifth starter. The sabermetric case for Raley is a weak one, but for some subjective reason I think he might surprise us eventually with a Scott Diamond-like season. Grade C.

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  2. Rice Cube

    Comparing those values to this post on Beyond the Box Score, the Cubs probably won’t get much in return for Garza at the deadline. I imagine it will be difficult to trade him before he shows he is completely healthy and I’m not sure spring training is going to get that done.

    Does this factor in GM stupidity and desperation?

    I imagine that if they’re getting crap in trade, they’ll just give him the qualifying offer or extend him then.

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    dmick89

    Rice Cube wrote:

    Does this factor in GM stupidity and desperation?

    No, but there’s less of that, especially now that a team who trades for Garza midseason won’t be able to cash in on a draft pick. That’s one thing that I think a lot of people overlooked with the new CBA: players traded midseason are worth less than they were before.

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    dmick89

    @ Rice Cube:
    Yeah, if they can do better with a draft pick then that’s more than likely what they’ll do. It depends on how he pitches this year. If he starts out like he did in 2011 he’ll have more value. If it’s like 2012 and every other year, probably a little less value. Maybe some GM is desperate, but I wouldn’t count on that. Garza isn’t a great pitcher and there are likely to be better starters available at the deadline. Acquiring a player for 2 months with no chance of draft pick compensation makes a player much less attractive to the acquiring team these days.

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  5. Aisle424

    Damn it, MB, you got your classlessness all over me.

    @ mike:

    You understand that the Cubs Convention is the equivalent of a politician making a campaign promise, right, Mike? Cubs Convention isn’t where you go to get truth, you get very polished talking points designed to get you excited, whether there is actual good reason to get excited or not.

    These guys will all be in the best shape of their lives! I’m going to spoil it for you, Mike, Stew is going to be just fine. I’m sure he’ll tell us so this weekend, so it must be true. I remember when Kerry Wood told us all his elbow problems were totally healed up at the 1999 Cubs Convention. We were all very excited about that as well.

    By the way, BCB is that way —————->

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  6. Berselius

    dmick89 wrote:

    No, turns out this Mike left another comment earlier this month and interestingly, he mentioned both Schierholtz and Stew. I’m still (dying laughing) at Stew.
    In his first comment, he attacked berselius. Now it’s 424′s turn.

    What the fuck did I do? (dying laughing)

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  7. Rice Cube

    @ dmick89:
    Maybe the Cubs can try to package someone with Garza and try to grab back what the Marlins got for Sanchez and Infante, but Sanchez is better than Garza…they’d have to prey on desperation. I am still not sure what I’d think if the Cubs signed Garza to an extension.

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  8. Edwin

    I always enjoy the trade value analysis. Mostly because it’s a good reminder how many fans overrate their own prospects when they talk trades, and because then I get to write the word analysis, which always makes me giggle.

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    dmick89

    I get the feeling Mike doesn’t think we’re “true” Cubs fans. I would think that by writing on this blog and the others for several years that we would have to be true Cubs fans. Otherwise, why the fuck would we do this?

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  10. Rice Cube

    @ dmick89:
    I also wonder if what happens to guys like Lohse and Bourn will influence the Cubs to trade Garza. There’s got to be a deadline for a team to get their former free agent signed by someone else to get that comp pick so they might run the risk of Garza either accepting the offer, him leaving without getting anything in return, or nobody signing him until after such a deadline and the Cubs still getting nothing. I think they’ll think hard about trading him in the spring even if it’s difficult. It’s quite a gamble but with an elbow injury and not being sure which Garza shows up…

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  11. Suburban kid

    dmick89 wrote:

    I get the feeling Mike doesn’t think we’re “true” Cubs fans. I would think that by writing on this blog and the others for several years that we would have to be true Cubs fans. Otherwise, why the fuck would we do this?

    Because you’re ironic Cubs fans?

    Aisley’s comment yesterday about people who attend the Cubs Fest unironically (sp?) got me thinking whether or not there were ironic Cubs fans. People who root for the Cubs because it is so lame. (dying laughing)

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  12. WenningtonsGorillaCock

    dmick89 wrote:

    I get the feeling Mike doesn’t think we’re “true” Cubs fans. I would think that by writing on this blog and the others for several years that we would have to be true Cubs fans. Otherwise, why the fuck would we do this?

    Wait, this is a Cubs blog?

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  13. The Wreckard

    Suburban kid wrote:

    dmick89 wrote:
    I get the feeling Mike doesn’t think we’re “true” Cubs fans. I would think that by writing on this blog and the others for several years that we would have to be true Cubs fans. Otherwise, why the fuck would we do this?

    Because you’re ironic Cubs fans?
    Aisley’s comment yesterday about people who attend the Cubs Fest unironically (sp?) got me thinking whether or not there were ironic Cubs fans. People who root for the Cubs because it is so lame. (dying laughing)

    I’ll admit that I attend the convention non-ironically. Or at least as non-ironically as I’m capable of doing anything. My whole family goes and we have fun.

    Although in years past I’ve always worn my Milton Bradley shirt. Not quite as funny anymore.

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  14. Suburban kid

    Has anyone who shat on Bagwell for his physique looked at pictures of roided-up Lance Armstrong?

    This is why it’s just as possible that Alfonso Soriano was a “juicer” as it is Frank Thomas. Witch-hunting douche bags.

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    dmick89

    Suburban kid wrote:

    Has anyone who shat on Bagwell for his physique looked at pictures of roided-up Lance Armstrong?
    This is why it’s just as possible that Alfonso Soriano was a “juicer” as it is Frank Thomas. Witch-hunting douche bags.

    I know. It’s so painfully obvious to anybody that size doesn’t mean steroid usage. It takes a fucking idiot to think it does. Sure, it could be because of that, but it might not be. Small guys use the shit too. It’s ridiculous.

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    dmick89

    @ Rice Cube:
    I don’t know exactly either, but I know epo was involved. I thought I read about steroids and HGH, but who knows? I really could not care less about this Armstrong nonsense. He’s an adult. He can do whatever the fuck he wants to his body. As for him being a piece of shit, well, he is a professional athlete…

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  17. GW

    Suburban kid wrote:

    Has anyone who shat on Bagwell for his physique looked at pictures of roided-up Lance Armstrong?

    This is why it’s just as possible that Alfonso Soriano was a “juicer” as it is Frank Thomas. Witch-hunting douche bags.

    meh, I agree with the point but I don’t think the comparison works at all. Doping in the tour de france is all about increasing the number of red blood cells in your body. any combination of drug/workout program that added extra weight would be eschewed because carrying extra weight on a seven hour bike ride through the mountains isn’t a great idea.

    in baseball, for hitters at least, adding weight in the form of muscle mass is the point.

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  18. GBTS

    Edwin wrote:

    Did he use drugs to beat caner too? What a phony.

    Back in SK’s day, if you got cancer you just did pushups until you sweated it all out. Then you said “thank you sir, may I have another?” and downed a full bottle of scotch.

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  19. JonKneeV

    GBTS wrote:

    Back in SK’s day, if you got cancer you just did pushups until you sweated it all out. Then you said “thank you sir, may I have another?” and downed a full bottle of scotch died.

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  20. josh

    @ mikeakaleroy:
    Yeah, but I’m used to that. Many of these comment threads feature me saying 5-6 things to myself before finally realizing I’m talking to myself and quietly turning off my computer and sitting alone in the dark contemplating where I have gone wrong.

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    dmick89

    josh wrote:

    I challened MB to a game, but he afeared my spelleng skillz.

    (dying laughing) I’ve never played and only downloaded the game because an old friend challenged me to a game. I declined that one and didn’t feel bad. I felt really belt when I declined your invite so I had to email you to apologize. (dying laughing)

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  22. Suburban kid

    Just out of curiosity, by why would an incumbent president need to have a second inauguration ceremony?

    And c), even if there is a need for a swearing in, do we really need a repeat of the pomp and circumstance?

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  23. Suburban kid

    The problem with it, of course, is that because it’s in a central location, everyone has to use the escalators to go from one of the four (!) levels you’ll find convention venues, from registration to a new season-ticket holder lounge (nice touch) to charity auction areas to the main room where vendors are located to the ballrooms where the panel discussions will be held Saturday.

    /one sentence

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    dmick89

    Epstein said that if the club sees a can’t miss position player available at the No. 2 spot in the draft, they may go that route and stockpile pitching later, tweets Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/01/cubs-notes.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MlbTradeRumors+%28MLB+Trade+Rumors%29#eqB8EQ1O3GEisomU.99

    A person would have to think that this front office is retarded if they’re going to pass on a superior player in the draft just to take a pitcher. It’s about overall talent.

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  25. GW

    @ Rice Cube:

    The project will last five years and cost around $300MM, and just as Muskat reported yesterday, the Ricketts will pay for it.

    This is pretty big news, is it not?

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  26. Rice Cube

    @ GW:
    It’s a huge deal. The Cubs are basically giving the city the deal of a lifetime if Chicago lets them do whatever they want within reason. Jed Hoyer was pretty brutally honest about how shitty the facilities were. An expanded clubhouse and more batting cages is definitely big.

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