Gameday: Marlins (13-22) vs. Cubs (18-15) (5/9/2018)

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TV: WGN
Radio: 670 the Score
Time: 1:20 PM CST

Cubs

Almora Jr. CF
Bryant RF
Baez 2B
Rizzo 1B
Contreras C
Bote 3B
Happ LF
Russell SS
Jose Quintana SP

Marlins

Rojas SS
Prado 3B
Castro 2B
Anderson RF
Bour 1B
Maybin LF
Brinson CF
Holaday C
Wei-Yin Chen SP

This game should probably not be played. It's going to rain all day and the winds are 40 mph. Oh well.

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  17. berselius

    Tony’s trying to bring all his numbers back above average in a single game (dying laughing).

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  19. Rizzo the Rat

    The White Sox are so worthless. I just hope they remain worthless when they play the Cubs.

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  25. cerulean

    Rizzo the Rat:
    Rizzo is now over the Mendoza Line and is no longer without a double on the season.

    I want to but cannot both upvote and downvote this at the same time.

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  27. Perkins

    There’s a nonzero chance one of the Yankees or Red Sox wins 100 games and gets into the postseason as a Wild Card.

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  29. cerulean

    dmick89,

    It was 1993—103 wins to the Braves 104.

    The craziest to me, though it was after the introduction of the wildcard so both made the playoffs, was the Mariners and A’s in 2001: 116 and 102 wins.

    That three teams in the same division won a combined 295 games in 2015 is pretty crazy, too.

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  31. Perkins

    cerulean,

    I’d forgotten about the old divisional alignmemts. How in the hell were the Braves and Reds in the West while the Cubs and Cardinals were in the East?

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  32. Rizzo the Rat

    Perkins,

    I did a Google search and found this poorly-sourced answer from someone named “anonymous”:
    https://www.quora.com/Why-were-Atlanta-and-Cincinnati-placed-in-the-original-NL-West-while-St.-Louis-and-Chicago-were-placed-in-the-NL-East?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa

    Short Answer: Blame the New York Mets

    Long Answer:
    In the late 1960s the National League was prepping to expand from 10 to 12 teams to include Montreal and San Diego. The alignment right before the approval vote was what you would have expected:

    NL East: Atlanta, Cincy, Montreal, New York, Philly, Pittsburgh
    NL West: Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, San Fran, St. Louis, San Diego

    But legend has it that right before the approval, the Mets complained that they would have less home games against St. Louis, SF and LA. The first being a top pennant contender that could draw large crowds, and the latter being big rivalries given their previous NY addresses and therefore able to draw big attendances as well. The Mets wanted at least one of these teams in their division.

    Of these 3 teams, obviously none of them made geographic sense to move to the East but the Mets insisted. In the end, SF and LA made the least sense so St. Louis got realigned to the East while Atlanta got moved to the West.

    But then the Cubs complained that this screwed with their games allotted with St. Louis (keep in mind, this was one of the top rivalries). As a result, Chicago got moved to the East and Cincy reluctantly moved over to the West.

    Source: memory from reading something in the 90s when it was realigned to 3 divisions (please correct me if there are any errors or missing details)

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  33. Rizzo the Rat

    Here’s what Wikipedia says:

    Despite the geography, the owners of the Chicago Cubs insisted that their team be placed into the East Division along with the teams in New York City, Philadelphia, and Pittsburgh. Also, the owners of the St. Louis Cardinals wanted that team to be in the same division with their natural rivals of the Cubs. The league could have insisted on a geographical alignment like the American League did. But the owners were also concerned about what they thought would be a large imbalance in the strength of the divisions. The previous two seasons, the Cardinals, Giants, and Cubs finished 1-2-3 in the National League standings. The owners were concerned about putting those teams in the same division, thereby creating one very strong division (West) and one weak one (East). Given all of this, the owners of the Atlanta Braves and the Cincinnati Reds consented to being placed into the West Division, even though Atlanta and Cincinnati are both in the Eastern Time Zone. Hence, the West Division had teams spread all the way from the East to the Pacific Coast, and scattered over four time zones. The East Division was spread over the Eastern Time Zone and the Central Time Zone – despite the fact that the National League had six teams in the Eastern Time Zone and six teams spread between the Central Time Zone and the Pacific Time Zone.

    All of this increased the traveling distances and times for all of the teams, and it also made radio broadcasting and TV broadcasts of the games more difficult to schedule. The Braves and the Reds had to travel all the way to California three times during each baseball season, and the three teams in California had to travel to Atlanta, Cincinnati, and Houston three times also. Sometimes, the trouble could be alleviated for them by playing some games in Chicago, St. Louis, or Pittsburgh on the same long road trips.

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  34. dmick89

    Rizzo the Rat: Despite the geography, the owners of the Chicago Cubs insisted that their team be placed into the East Division along with the teams in New York City, Philadelphia, and Pittsburgh. Also, the owners of the St. Louis Cardinals wanted that team to be in the same division with their natural rivals of the Cubs.

    This is what I remember the reason for it. I remember the Tribune wanted to be in the division with the Mets and the Cardinals wanted to be in the division with the Cubs. I wouldn’t be surprised if the three owners worked out something so that they could all argue the Mets, Cubs and Cardinals should be in the same division.

    I remember hearing that the Cubs complained the Cubs and Mets wouldn’t be in the same division when they moved to the three division format.

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