Of course there's a mystery team involved at this point. There always is. However, Jim Bowden claims the Cubs and Rangers will get a trade done and, unfortunately, Neil Ramirez will be the "center piece" of the trade for Matt Garza.
The Rangers – Cubs…Matt Garza deal will get done and Neil Ramirez will be center piece according to source
— JIM BOWDEN (@JimBowdenESPNxm) July 19, 2013
I'm not expecting the Cubs to get nearly as much as some are, but if this is the best guy the Cubs get in return, they got screwed. No point in overreacting at this point. I find it hard to believe he'll be the best they get.
UPDATE 1: looks like the trade may have hit a snag after medical records were exchanged.
6:41pm: The prospective swap of Garza to Rangers has “hit a snag” and is no longer a certainty, tweets Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports. He says that the Cubs are looking to alternative trade partners while continuing to work things out with Texas.>
Guess we’ll see.
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Outside of that one Bowden tweet, the consensus in the rumor mill (some of this coming from someone everyone seems to respect at Pro Sports Daily) is something like Olt + Ramirez + Edwards + some other position player for Garza and another MLB’er. The guy at Pro Sports Daily is also claiming the Cubs are looking for a third team to make a swap of Olt for a pitching prospect.
All with dumptrucks of salt…
shawndgoldmanQuote Reply
Olt’s in their lineup hitting 6th for Round Rock against Iowa tonight. Neil Ramirez is still scheduled to go against Iowa
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https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/358362993760808961
GWQuote Reply
Bruce Levine and Tim Brown say medicals are being reviewed.
GWQuote Reply
Amazing throw by Puig! Too bad, the ump missed the call.
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
Here’s the throw: https://vine.co/v/hmPdtOdqE3O
Rizzo the RatQuote Reply
What is it with the Cubs and finishing deals?
dmick89Quote Reply
If the rumors are true, this has to be related to medical records, right?
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@ Rizzo the Rat:
That’s impressive
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@ dmick89:
unreal
GWQuote Reply
yeesh
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@ GW:
It is. Did the Red Sox have this problem? Do you know?
dmick89Quote Reply
Bristol is about to get smarter:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/20/business/media/nate-silver-blogger-for-new-york-times-is-to-join-espn-staff.html
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@ dmick89:
There are rumors out there that the Rangers still are interested in Garza. So long as we’re speculating, I think the “smart” speculation is that Olt’s medical report is what tripped up the deal.
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@ dmick89:
i’m not sure. the A-rod trade talks dragged on forever.
GWQuote Reply
@ shawndgoldman:
That’s a good bet, but this has happened twice before. It’s something I’ve never seen at this frequency. Not even close b
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@ GW:
Forgot about that. Maybe we should email Cubs beat reporter Nick Cafardo.
dmick89Quote Reply
dmick89 wrote:
“Wait, he had arm surgery?”
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@ dmick89:
You mean the history of past failed deals? Sometimes I wonder if the over-reporting in the Twitter era makes in-progress deals seem much more complete than in the past.
That wouldn’t explain why this isn’t happening repeatedly with other franchises, though.
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@ shawndgoldman:
Twitter could help explain, but as you said, this doesn’t seem to happen to other teams. It’s strange. Don’t know if it says anything negative about the organization, but other teams pay attention to this stuff. Could make them reluctant in trade talks with the Cubs.
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@ dmick89:
But we haven’t seen that happen. There was, if rumors are to be believed, plenty of teams in on Garza.
OTOH, it could just be that Theo/Jed lead more stuff like this on purpose.
Who knows? People get pissed about this stuff like they’re not getting a Christmas present. I think it’s just strange.
shawndgoldmanQuote Reply
Likely was Olt and it is hard to fault the Cubs if they’re not confident in the player’s health. Still odd though.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ shawndgoldman:
I’m not the least bit upset. Until I know otherwise, I’d see no point to be upset about it. Could just as easily be better the Cubs do this. Maybe more likely given the FO’s history.
I just think it’s strange that it appears to be unique to the Cubs.
dmick89Quote Reply
I agree. Even more strange that people would get upset over this considering all that is unknown.
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@ dmick89:
In isolation, I don’t think this is strange at all. Olt was a major chip in the trade, and he was clearly affected by a significant and still somewhat mysterious medical issue earlier this year. Either the issue is more serious than the Rangers are letting on… or it’s still somewhat a mystery what is causing it and the Cubs were uncomfortable with the risk that would bring to the table.
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@ dmick89:
Yeah it’s the trend that’s strange. This incident seems fairly understandable.
shawndgoldmanQuote Reply
Wow that was some impressive range and unimpressive (raw) instincts by Lake in CF.
shawndgoldmanQuote Reply
Cubs Den is saying it was a Ranger’s pitching prospect with the bad medicals that scared the Cubs away. Those guys have been all over the Garza rumblings, BTW.
http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2013/07/garza-deal-fall-through-after-exchange-of-meds/
Aisle424Quote Reply
Multiple sources now saying the issue was on the Rangers side and the teams are trying to piece together a deal with a different prospect or a PTBNL.
shawndgoldmanQuote Reply
Good night for Lake.
dmick89Quote Reply
@ shawndgoldman:
I’d say it’s doubtful it gets done by tomorrow so they’ll probably work at it over the next few days.
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Aisle424Quote Reply
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